“It’s like fantasy, but really gay”
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I've never played the game. I've always been an awkward person, so didn't really have the friend group. I have to ask how important was romance in the game before the gay shit? Do people make their characters do the Horizontal Charleston?
Imagine openly saying intimate, flirty stuff or sexting your SO in front of a group of your friends. Its extremely awkward for everyone involved.
So no, it was never important because its a group of friends or strangers playing each character and only wierd spergs would want to cross that barrier and continue to do so without realizing how uncomfortable everyone was.
The problem is that the "most vocal" players are podcast people (who engage in shipping wars to drive viewership) and loud trannies/degenerates who have poly sexual courtship circles in their games.
That reminds me of a joke.
A woman is talking to her landlord about not being able to afford rent. She starts to unbutton her shirt and says, "Maybe I can pay in other ways?" The landlord leers at her, "Oh yeah, you can sexy," he replies licking his lips.
"Damn it mom and dad your children are right here, can't you play Monopoly like normal people!"
Pretty much the only acceptable way to do romance was over the top and campy, playing it for comedy, and then a tasteful fade to black.
Other way was "yeah, you bang. now back to killing goblins."
It was always possible but the WotC era, and specifically the 5e era has been about telling a story rather than playing a game. It's almost become more about playing pre-written campaigns with a defined start and end, with character arcs, etc.
D&D has become a lifestyle product rather than a game. There was a guy bagging my groceries with a rainbow d20 tat on, so I foolishly asked him how long he'd been playing for, since I've been playing since I was 8 in 1986. He told me he had never played before, he just really liked Critical Role.
edit: to be fair, it's always been done by people trying to force D&D to do things it's not designed to do rather than play a game specifically intended for that sort of playstyle, it's just far more over about telling you that you're Playing Wrong
Critical Role will always be the worst thing to happen to dnd and is what made me realize why gate keeping hobbies is so important when i was younger i always wanted more people to play and enjoy the things i loved but now i realize they are a parasite
Normie acceptance is the kiss of death. Look what happened when games and anime became mainstream.
Now Solo Leveling is winning anime of the year when more thoughtful shows like Frieren get shoved to the wayside. Muh aura farming faggot incel power fantasy shit
The target demo changed from autists to drama kids. It is one of the mediums that they've successfully taken over.
I rememebr hearing from an aquantince that's she'd started playing with some othe theater career rejects. I forget what I asked. Some basic "how's it going" and she said essentially "Oh I don't know, we didnt really do the levels part"
Its stuck with me. And this is coming from a guy who does dice less when I GM.
I blame the downward trajectory of Vampire the Masquerade for this
Yes, back when I was younger, we didn't have any women in our group, and it wasn't because we didn't try. They refused to be seen with us nerds. We weren't even picky about who we gamed with, it was enough to be interested in playing the game, and we always needed new players so unless you were completely unbearable to be around, you were in.
Not typically important at all. Most tables don't want to ERP with other sweaty *nerds, so...
When I played it many years ago, it was all about combat.
Not really important. Our DM has sometimes thrown in NPCs that you could form a relationship with, never really goes into detail... It's really just treated as another mechanic to raise the stakes and story telling.
Creates new no win situations, like save the girl or save ur friends.
There are PLENTY of horror stories over on Reddit tho... Where freaky and perverted ass players want to go into those details. Or the DM will go about monster raping the female characters, a player may play a Chaotic Evil character and use it as an excuse to go being an aggressive sexual deviant.
All about what your table is for.