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– dagthegnome 32 points 250 days ago +32 / -0

The Muslims are right about one thing. Educating girls is a mistake.

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– BeefyBelisarius 29 points 250 days ago +29 / -0

Every answer they got right was plagiarized. Skipping the boomers and a few generations before them, your own ancestors were right about women. Also, Florence Nightingale was right about women. And so is Neo-Gastonism.

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– Bouldabassed 17 points 250 days ago +17 / -0

Ehh, not saying they deserve any credit, but I would say it was more so every semi successful civilization independently arriving to the same conclusion for thousands of years rather than them plagiarizing that one.

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– BeefyBelisarius 13 points 250 days ago +13 / -0

True. All around the world, over millennia, different groups of people came to some of the same conclusions. That's what I'd call a clue.

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– dagthegnome 5 points 250 days ago +5 / -0

Very true.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 26 points 250 days ago +26 / -0

ChatGPT is just the advice giver people have been asking for years. The experienced older person has been near useless because nothing they know works now. I can't give a firm handshake and win a client. I may not even see the client. Is it perfect? No, but it's better than the advice being given now by people who should be giving advice.

My job had a big problem, and none of us could figure out a part of it. We researched what we could. ChatGPT gave us some options, we decided which one to go with, and it's worked so far.

The kind of societal change we have with everything converging in tech is insane. Asimov did not predict this.

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– ActiveLurker 21 points 250 days ago +21 / -0

Unfortunately, it seems to be the case that AI is not an "advice-giver" for a lot of retards and actual children, but instead is becoming a complete thought-outsourcing tool for them. My rage about this is reserved for the women in the OP who continually countersignal things like homeschooling and push for shit like more AI, because more tech is gooderer.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 12 points 250 days ago +12 / -0

We've been taught to only rely on authority. Is this kid any different if she says her teacher or parent is right? Especially at her age?

This is why we have NPCs and why so many want to control AI.

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– ActiveLurker 2 points 250 days ago +2 / -0

Of course, which is why the people able to identify NPC behavior should take charge with the education of their children and not leave it in the hands of government sanctioned NPCs or their AI counterparts.

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– cccpneveragain 4 points 250 days ago +4 / -0

I'm sure there's something to that. I'd probably argue with respect to schoolchildren teachers should adapt, although I'd have argued that a long time ago well before AI. The busywork givers that care if you know the name of the boat the pilgrims were on when they came on their slaughter expedition or what date MLK was shot, well AI excels at that.

If they'd push real thought exercises, then AI could only assist as a tool. I'm not sure we want that either, because the thought exercises coming out of a teacher would be to explain to them how great communism is and how great it is to be a transgender with no room for dissent. Which I guess isn't much different because you're right back to regurgitating what the teacher wants to hear, and well AI can do that.

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– undecidedmask2 11 points 250 days ago +11 / -0

AI is a great search tool. I’ve had many difficult problems that I could have looked up the solutions to myself, but the different portions were all over several websites, with a few being in giant articles. Rather than spending half an hour hunting down all the information I need to solve an issue, AI finds it for me in a few seconds and can produce a nice, clean guide for me.

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– RadiateTonight 5 points 250 days ago +5 / -0

If search engines and manuals or help files were doing their fucking jobs properly it would negate a lot of what chatgpt is good at just now and it should have been done years ago.

The big problem with it at the moment apart from censorship is that it will spit out completely wrong nonsense and act as if it's perfectly right instead of doubting.

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 250 days ago +3 / -0

The problem I see is that it can only help with solved problems. Anything novel is going to result in wild hallucinations. With everyone becoming reliant on it, the muscles needed for solving problems atrophy and now novel problems become Herculean tasks that mere mortals are no longer equipped to handle. Then we start spiraling.

It's the old problem of, no you're not going to need to remember or use most of what you learn in school, but you needed to learn it all in order to get good at learning new things because that's an important life skill. We're setting up to abandon that skill.

Also as we stop solving novel problems, the pool of knowledge to feed into the AI's training data fails to keep pace with the emerging realities of the world so it can no longer solve things that emerge. ChatGPT can only solve weird issues with Windows registry keys because 20 years ago there was a small army of nerds furiously blogging about it. Now that everyone's relying on ChatGPT no one is writing the blogs to fuel the training data for twenty years from now.

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– multiformat 22 points 250 days ago +22 / -0

If you don't use your brain, then it turns to mush. Thinking for yourself is like lifting weights.

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– cccpneveragain 18 points 250 days ago +18 / -0

I use AI a lot now. I find it’s best used when you can essentially interrogate it a bit against your own intelligence and use it for data collection, mathematical modeling, or coding tasks that you might could have actually done yourself but often wouldn’t have because the time constraints would have been immense.

An 11 year old wouldn’t catch on to that, but in their terms if they were going to use ChatGPT to write a paper for school, you have to be smart enough to not just put β€œwrite a 500 word essay on why white people are bad” but instead need to think to follow up going back and forth with it, have it add a spelling or grammatical error somewhere, make sure it looks like an 11yo wrote it and not a college student, etc. Beyond shaping output, if you ask me, in a lot of cases you really don’t need to do it manually. Because when you get to a job especially with that many years left until, they are going to demand you use AI for efficiency and not care about the methods.

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– Eltrion 8 points 250 days ago +8 / -0

I find that the best way to use AI is to treat it like a very enthusiastic teenage subordinate. Delegate things to it, but assume it will make mistakes, or take shortcuts to preserve its own ego. Give detailed, precise instructions, and be prepared for it to make incorrect assumptions.Verify everything it does, and know that you need to have final say and culpability in everything it does.

It's fast and very useful, but you need some skill at wrangling it.

And, like you said, it's far more powerful as a partner to bounce ideas back and forth with while you do the actual work, than it is when you just tell it to do something.

And yes, AI being implemented into workflows is basically inevitable. Doing it correctly will be the trick.

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– ParadigmShift2070 5 points 250 days ago +5 / -0

Also like teenagers, they have no persistent memory of things you taught them! You have to repeat your specifications and rules everytime it cleared its cache, you'd thought no imaginary sources should have been default but Noooo you have to repeatedly tell it not to lie

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– Eltrion 2 points 250 days ago +2 / -0

Exactly. Enthusiastic, but in need of constant direction and guidance.

A big advantage over actual teenagers is they won't get pissy if you tell them to start over and do it all from the top. Which is an important thing to do. Trying again fresh, or pitching the question at a different LLM is a good sanity check when you can't personally verify something that sounds plausible. If it's a hallucination, it will be different each time.

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– Mpetey123 8 points 250 days ago +8 / -0

Why should I think?

This isn't about technology, it's an existential crisis. Looking for answers is the fundamental human experience. This is just why am I here phrased differently. The answer isn't about Chatgpt, it's about their humanity.

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– LinkR 8 points 250 days ago +8 / -0

It is a logical fallacy to attribute this thought process to just women. AI is a curse all must contend with.

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– ParadigmShift2070 5 points 250 days ago +5 / -0

I'd tell her chatgpt source the answers from average redditards

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– Questionable [S] 4 points 251 days ago +4 / -0

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1nqoofi/i_had_a_terrifying_conversation_with_an_11yearold/

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– 5Cats 3 points 250 days ago +3 / -0

Why doesn't she just ask ChatGPT if the answers are accurate? Eh? Maybe ask Alexa... πŸ™„

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