This is why Cenk is trying to shut the Progressives up. Charlie Kirk is the worst person they could have shot. The deeply personal friend of most of the administration, who was not even in political office, and was predominantly a commentator who had disagreements with the administration.
You idiots. You aren't just repelling the center-left, and radicalizing the moderates. You're radicalizing TRUMP. Why would you do that?!!
I was curious what Reddit was saying about this situation, so I perused the front page for about an hour. Every single highly upvoted and commented post, with the most highly upvoted comments, were all saying that Charlie Kirk was a fascist, Nazi, racist, etc. and that he deserved it. They seriously think a milquetoast mainstream right winger like Charlie Kirk is a "Nazi". These idiots have zero clue what's been exponentially growing within the right, due in large part to how they (the left) is acting.
I also imagine the particularly brutal and graphic way Charlie died is not helpful for them too. And that that is also what is helping to move some of the ones who can be moved, like how it sounds like Shoeonhead is ready to give up on Socialist and say they are in fact evil (since apparently she contacted Carl Benjamin after 7 years and told him as much).
See, she said in that message she's explicitly a Huey Long progressive. For those that don't know, that means she's basically an non-Marxist Progressive from the line of Southern Fusionists that were anti- plantation aristocracy. We wouldn't recognize him as a Socialist, because his lineage is mostly populist, and shares more in common with pre-Marxist Socialism, which tended to be more Christian and less Revolutionary.
She's admitting that she's basically: "Populist Left", which is a win, because so are Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, and Dennis Kucinich. Trust me, if that is the future of the Left, we're fucking golden.
She isn't giving up on Leftism, or even Socialism, but she's giving up on Marxism and it's descendent dialectics, which I'll take as a win all day.
Yeah, Shoeonhead crashing out on the left sure as hell wasn't on my bingo card for this year.
It makes me wonder how transformative this even is going to be for the DNC as a whole. Not in a sense that it causes them to moderate, but that it causes severe evaporative cooling amoung thier rank and file as the more 'moderate' look around and start questioning 'Are we the baddies?', pack thier bags, and leave.
Resulting in the Left going even further batshit crazy.
Honestly, in the history of American politics, that sort of doom spiral usually leads to the destruction of parties and new ones rising up to replace them. Even as far back as the founding, where the Federalist were destroyed and it was decades of near uncontested Democratic-Republican Party rule because the Federalist destroyed themselves by being so anti-DRP that they openly and vocally sided with the British in the War of 1812.
I think there might be an actual evaporation. Maybe even a new party in a decade. God, I wish we could get some kind of "sane opposition", and maybe my grandchildren will have a "loyal opposition" one day.
This is why Cenk is trying to shut the Progressives up. Charlie Kirk is the worst person they could have shot. The deeply personal friend of most of the administration, who was not even in political office, and was predominantly a commentator who had disagreements with the administration.
You idiots. You aren't just repelling the center-left, and radicalizing the moderates. You're radicalizing TRUMP. Why would you do that?!!
The answer is because they can't help themselves.
Pfft, chud, orange cheeto man is already turbo giga Hitler, he can't be radicalized any further!
The fact that JD Vance used Air Force Two to transport Charlie's body should tell them how bad they fucked up.
Imagine you radicalized JD Vance.
That's like pissing in Tom Homan's corn flakes. God help you.
I was curious what Reddit was saying about this situation, so I perused the front page for about an hour. Every single highly upvoted and commented post, with the most highly upvoted comments, were all saying that Charlie Kirk was a fascist, Nazi, racist, etc. and that he deserved it. They seriously think a milquetoast mainstream right winger like Charlie Kirk is a "Nazi". These idiots have zero clue what's been exponentially growing within the right, due in large part to how they (the left) is acting.
they will despair the day they realize that kirk was the moderate.
I also imagine the particularly brutal and graphic way Charlie died is not helpful for them too. And that that is also what is helping to move some of the ones who can be moved, like how it sounds like Shoeonhead is ready to give up on Socialist and say they are in fact evil (since apparently she contacted Carl Benjamin after 7 years and told him as much).
Yeah I heard that.
See, she said in that message she's explicitly a Huey Long progressive. For those that don't know, that means she's basically an non-Marxist Progressive from the line of Southern Fusionists that were anti- plantation aristocracy. We wouldn't recognize him as a Socialist, because his lineage is mostly populist, and shares more in common with pre-Marxist Socialism, which tended to be more Christian and less Revolutionary.
She's admitting that she's basically: "Populist Left", which is a win, because so are Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, and Dennis Kucinich. Trust me, if that is the future of the Left, we're fucking golden.
She isn't giving up on Leftism, or even Socialism, but she's giving up on Marxism and it's descendent dialectics, which I'll take as a win all day.
She's still a retard leftist and can't ever be trusted. At best, she can shut the fuck up and never talk in public again.
On the contrary her last several videos on men's issues were great.
Yeah, Shoeonhead crashing out on the left sure as hell wasn't on my bingo card for this year.
It makes me wonder how transformative this even is going to be for the DNC as a whole. Not in a sense that it causes them to moderate, but that it causes severe evaporative cooling amoung thier rank and file as the more 'moderate' look around and start questioning 'Are we the baddies?', pack thier bags, and leave.
Resulting in the Left going even further batshit crazy.
Who knows what'll happen by this point.
Honestly, in the history of American politics, that sort of doom spiral usually leads to the destruction of parties and new ones rising up to replace them. Even as far back as the founding, where the Federalist were destroyed and it was decades of near uncontested Democratic-Republican Party rule because the Federalist destroyed themselves by being so anti-DRP that they openly and vocally sided with the British in the War of 1812.
I think there might be an actual evaporation. Maybe even a new party in a decade. God, I wish we could get some kind of "sane opposition", and maybe my grandchildren will have a "loyal opposition" one day.
In their arrogance they think they've already won. They went immediately to the victory dance and are now acting shocked they're getting fired for it.