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Something that isnt getting talked about much...israel is bulldozing thousands of olive trees in Palestine (twitter.com)
posted 304 days ago by theaustrianpainter 304 days ago by theaustrianpainter +104 / -0
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– 5Cats 9 points 304 days ago +9 / -0

Bullshit. 70 years BEFORE they produce?
Even fig trees are productive after 10 years, they're one of the longest to mature. Olive trees are producing in 3-5 years, and 'stable' after 10. There are many small groves and some have indeed been around for decades. Once they get too old they are cut down. Same as the past 2000 years.

Olive trees "can produce" for a long time, but their output is greatly diminished after a certain time. Just like wine-grapes! After a fixed number of years they get pulled up & new ones are planted.

Also: you go and plant something on someone else's property? Guess what, they have every right to cut it down.

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– CatoTheElder 30 points 304 days ago +30 / -0

It's not bullshit, especially if you actually read what I said. Olives start getting very small crops at 10 years, but only produce once every few years when they are that young. It takes 70 years of cultivation until they are consistent.

https://www.hunker.com/13428601/how-long-does-it-take-for-an-olive-tree-to-produce-fruit/

https://masiaelaltet.com/blog/olive-trees-which-are-thousands-of-years-old/

Also: you go and plant something on someone else's property? Guess what, they have every right to cut it down.

So the Pallies have every right to tear down Israel?

All you are trying to do is defend jews.

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– horstshort 23 points 304 days ago +23 / -0

All you are trying to do is defend jews.

I'm guessing he is a fanatical evangelical.

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– brimshae 4 points 303 days ago +4 / -0

Could just be an IDT time zone poster.

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– horstshort 3 points 303 days ago +3 / -0

Well he said he lives in Israel and went to school there so I guess that answers that question.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 304 days ago +4 / -0

All he is doing is questioning a highly surprising fact about Olive Trees as a crop. Calm the fuck down.

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 12 points 304 days ago +12 / -0

Well, no, that's not all he's doing, because that last line renders a moral judgment unrelated to olive trees. But even without that line, when you open by saying "bullshit" and then misstating the opposing position in a subtly incorrect way, you've crossed the line from "questioning" to "being combative about."

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– Gizortnik 3 points 303 days ago +3 / -0

You mean the edited line, an argument about a property rights?

No, he's clearly talking about Olive trees.

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– brimshae 5 points 303 days ago +5 / -0

There's questioning something you don't know about, and then there's being an asshole about something while being categorically wrong AND showing that you don't even understand the words you're replying to, and 5Cats was/is doing the latter former.

Edit: Wrong word.

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– 5Cats 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

So Olive trees take 70 years to start producing? Is that so? I'm not understanding this "fact"?
In fact, someone linked an article about 1000+ year old olive trees which clearly stated that they produce the best from 5 - 100 years and then taper off sharply. My point was proven 😊 by them trying to disprove it.

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– SR388-SAX 3 points 303 days ago +3 / -0

Oh, so NOW you can give someone an extremely charitable interpretation of their (obviously goalpost-shifting) argument.

God you're an asshole.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 303 days ago +2 / -0

It's not even a goalpost shift. His original complaint was about trees.

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– Strike08 2 points 303 days ago +2 / -0

You could literally google that in 2 seconds

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– 5Cats 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

That olive trees start producing in 5 years? And have the best output before age 100? Yes Cato could have looked that up in seconds rather than say something so abysmally stupid.

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– deleted 6 points 303 days ago +6 / -0
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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 2 points 302 days ago +2 / -0

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– Gizortnik 2 points 303 days ago +2 / -0

More anti-white propaganda from Brown University professors, I see.

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– 5Cats 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

So in summary, we can say that olive trees between 5 and 100 years old are the most productive and which also offer the best quality. From that age onwards, both productivity and quality decrease.

From a link that someone thought disputed my position, but in fact proves it.

If a Pally BOUGHT land? They own it, they can do as they please. If they murder the owners? They do not. This is pretty simple stuff here.
Are you claiming that the lawful owners of land CANNOT alter it in any way? They must allow non-owners to utilize it for profit and receive nothing in compensation? Really?

10 years? You're thinking of figs I think.

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– Graphenium 18 points 304 days ago +18 / -0

Are you an alt of Cats5, the israeli former CNN employee who mods GreatAwakening, or is that just a really unfortunate name choice?

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– 5Cats 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

CNN employee? Them's fighting words! 😉
So no.
Are you an alt of Graphius, the neo-Nazi wanted on international warrants? 🙄 Or just a fan of his?

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– Graphenium 2 points 300 days ago +2 / -0

Ahh, a zionist faggot, of course you are.

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– 5Cats 1 point 300 days ago +1 / -0

That's a mirror you're looking at, just fyi.

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– akira2501 13 points 304 days ago +13 / -0

they have every right to cut it down.

Their actions are retarded. You cannot refute that. So you end up here. Where it's their "right" to act harmfully.

You are the worst kind of person.

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– 5Cats 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

If I go and build something on land you own, and make money off this without giving you anything, that's A-OK in your mind? Really?

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– Jalapeno_gringo 12 points 304 days ago +12 / -0

https://masiaelaltet.com/blog/olive-trees-which-are-thousands-of-years-old/

Another link for you. It doesn't take but a quick Google search to show how full of shit you are. If they bought the land and decided to do something different... Well that's the only argument you made earlier that can be debatable. But please, spare the bullshit

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– 5Cats 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

So in summary, we can say that olive trees between 5 and 100 years old are the most productive and which also offer the best quality. From that age onwards, both productivity and quality decrease.

Thank you for proving MY position. The trees in the image are CLEARLY NOT 2000 years old, ok? You're not thinking, only feeling.

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– Jalapeno_gringo 2 points 302 days ago +2 / -0

Try reading it again. They produce more at 100 years old than at 60 years old and some of the trees are still producing at 2,500 years old. Your comment proves you didn't read it. Also check my other comment where the point I did agree with you is where they can do whatever they want with the land if they bought it or already own it.

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– 5Cats 2 points 302 days ago +2 / -0

Some varieties of olives? Perhaps. There's more than 1 kind, you know? Just like apples. Commercially they'll use the short lived ones rather than wait 100 years to reach peak production, eh? Plus the trees pictures are not 1000 years old, they may be in the 40 - 60 range, I'd guess. The 1000 year ones have trunks meters wide. I did read every word of it btw. It proved my point nicely.

I did miss that other comment it seems. I'm glad we can agree on something :>

In the reported "bulldozing" it is alleged the IDF did it on land owned by Palestinians. However? I've read that every time a grove gets cut down for any reason, it gets reported as "the Jews did it!" even though they didn't. A fellow noted 3+ "reports" from the same "reporter" over a few year span & went to look for himself. Not one local person said the IDF did it, everyone said it was normal cutting & replanting or for housing.
For what it's worth: Hamas and the rest didn't just start making shiite up to attack & defame Jews, eh? This has been ongoing forever.

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