In light of Gamers Nexus video today "COLLAPSE: Intel is Falling Apart" here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXVQVbAFh6I
I wanted to remind everyone that in 2015 Intel laid off thousands of workers and then engaged in discrimination to in order to spend millions on "Diversity" goals: Intel Allocates $300 Million for Workplace Diversity https://archive.is/LvtO3 and https://archive.is/trAnL
Now that Intel wasn't making stock market gains fast enough they booted Gelsinger and now we get to watch it burn.
yep.. the isreali dependency plan.. by inserting themselves into many "necessary consumer" pipelines.. they hope to prevent the US from ever enforcing laws or standards with them.
because.. of course.. if you do something they don't like they'll just intentionally sabotage you and the products they send you.
any and all US assets operating in isreal need to be seized and returned. if not, we need to destroy them, we cannot have this sword hanging over our heads.
Absolutely, they're collapsing now because their consumer chips are just inferior to AMD these days, and to be inferior now means somewhere up to the last decade of development has been severely mismanaged. Nothing gives shittier results than suddenly stuffing the middle ranks with diversity hires and now those chickens have come home to roost.
Also the way they've fucked their reputation recently by shipping defective chips and sloppily trying to cover it up is a classic "diverse" manager move who only thinks of consequences when they're just a few hours ahead.
The seeds were planted earlier, but 2015 was where the damage became evident. In one word...
Cove.
I cannot put this boldly enough: the rollout of 10nm was a FUCKING DISASTER for Intel. Worse, they couldn't even manage to fire Krzanich over it, they had to get rid of him over sleeping around with coworkers.
As for WHY 10nm was a disaster... Intel tried to get clever. They knew extreme ultraviolet lithography wouldn't be ready on the timetable they wanted, so they resorted to using exotic patterning techniques that caused their defect rate to explode. To deliver the product they wanted, with the methods they were comfortable with, they would have had to punt on the tick-tock model. Which is effectively what happened anyway.
But as we know now the real killing blow was that AMD actually learned from their mistakes. Zen didn't have to be perfect, it just had to less bad than Bulldozer was, and less watt thirsty than Intel's equivalent.
How much of Intel's woes was due to them thinking they can suck on Uncle Sam's tits with the CHIPS Act?
Very little. They had a ton of problems and aren't competitive with amd on price for performance.
Setting their reputation on fire with CPUs that litterally rust from the inside out due to manufacturing contamination didn't help.
Then trying to shove too much voltage to try to one-up AMD in benchmarks, resulting in CPU degradation multiplied by contamination problems.
Then weird voltage jumps they took ages to fix ( and might not have fully fixed yet ) also damaging the CPUs...
If price to performance was their only problem, Intel could ride its reputation.
But the CPUs just crashing and dying from quick degradation since 13th gen onwards rightfully devastated their reputation and sales.
We're talking high risk ( up to near-certainty depending on what BIOS version you're on ) of your CPU first underperforming, then crashing, then dying, within months for 13th and 14th gens Intel CPUs.
A computer CPU is not supposed to fail. It should become old and obsolete while still performing as intended 10+ years later. I personally never had a computer CPU die on me since I got my first computer ( thankfully didn't buy an Intel CPU after their enshittification ). Intel fucking this up is very hard to move-on from.
I just don't trusts their CPUs. Oh they say the new ones are fine. Does that mean they will die in 4 years instead of 4 months? Not interested.
I recently built a new rig and went with a 12th gen CPU thanks to my coworker tipping me off that new gens had issues but I hadn't realized it was quite that bad. Guess I'll be switching to AMD if they're still this shit a decade from now.
Your coworker spared you headaches trying to figure why your computer keeps crashing.
Spared all the time you can't use your broken computer. Possibly spared you losing important progress on your work.
And not having to waste hours with Intel costumer support and then days for them to replace the defective CPU with likely another defective CPU that will have a short life.
So 13th gen is cursed? 👻
The way I hear it, everything past 12th gen is cursed.
So what do people use if they want a new gaming pc?
12th gen Intel or AMD?
So what do people use if they want a new gaming pc?
12th gen Intel or AMD?
If you want the best gaming performance, or the best price-to-performance ratio, or the more reliable CPUs, or the more efficient CPUs, or the CPUs that don't produce a ton of heat, all those are found in AMD CPUs.
Intel just dropped the ball. 12th gen Intel CPUs are starting to show their age ( Intel is into their 15th generation ). You can still game on the good ones, but there are much better options with AMD.
There are some specific tasks where some Intel chips outperform AMD, but if you need those specific tasks, you likely already know which specific CPU for that task. ( AMD also has certain CPUs that crush Intel at different specific tasks ).
Best gaming CPU currently on the market is the Ryzen 7 9800X3D. But if you don't plan to pair it with a high end, expensive GPU, there are better options.
The Ryzen 5 7500F ( no integrated graphics ) you have to order from East Asia pairs well with a mid range or ''upper-low-range'' GPU.
If you don't want to order from across the globe, the Ryzen 5 7600 is a good price-to-performance.
There is a 7600x version supposedly more powerful, but if you enable Performance Boost Override on a 7600 CPU, it performs basically the same, so don't pay more for the x version.
The 3 CPUs I used as examples are all on the current AM5 platform of motherboards ( which uses DDR5 RAM ). That platform will likely see new CPU releases for another 3 years.
You can still make a very good gaming PC on the previous AM4 platform ( DDR4 RAM ), for cheaper, but your upgrade options will be limited and support / updates will end soon since AMD is well into the AM5 generation.
Beware of some shitty AM5 motherboards if you plan to use a CPU that pulls more power, as if the circuits heat too much it will throttle performance and you'll have no idea what is wrong unless you know about that issue.
That's never going to be an issue with a Ryzen 5 7600 CPU, but it could be if you upgrade your CPU later.
But that's a whole other subject.
Thanks!
They coasted on the innovations that the asian/whites did. The last 5 generations they just upped the voltage/watts and use the same node +++++14nm lol. And they added e-cores that is eww.. and they now added a 3rd kinda core.
2015 hurt, but honestly they tried and failed to innovate, and their chips frying under normal use (and trying to cover it up for a while) hurt a ton, so does the lack of bang for the buck.
Amd right now is just better, and Intel can come back like they did before (post bulldozer), but they're going to have a uphill battle thanks to a lot of bad choices over the last decade, and lack of customer faith to not fuck it up again.
Intel sealed its fate when Apple asked to collaborate with them on ARM chips for smartphones, but Intel refused to develop anything other than x86. They rested on their laurels while AMD slowly caught up and passed them.