Maybe you’re not supposed to purposely puncture the front of the box. I’ll point out that of all the sales of the switch 2 in the world, there’s one store employee that did this. Just how much are you supposed to pander to idiots?
Even if you want to claim liability, it’s a very simple case. Who do you think is responsible for replacing the switch 2s? Nintendo or gamestop? You think gamestop is going to be able to claim defective packaging from Nintendo? If not, then it’s pretty obvious whose fault it is
Anything could always be better. That’s not an argument. The qns is whether the packaging is fit for purpose, barring retards. And considering it’s one store in a global launch having this issues then it’s fine.
If there was mass reports of switch2s being received with cracked screens then I’d say they need to look at their packaging. But there isn’t
You’re simping pretty hard for Nintendo right now dude.
Packaging is part of the manufacturing design. There a million and one products out there that encounter failure edge cases. Are they all “packagings fault?” No probably not explicitly.
But that is part of the packaging design life cycle and companies should be cognizant and responsible for improving their packaging design based on failures in the field.
So it doesn’t matter whose fault it is. What matters is what Nintendo and GameStop do about it. And if one or both of them just says “not my fault” then fuck them.
Nah, i dont have a switch 2 nor am i going to buy it until it has more than just mario kart on it. I am pointing out the packaging is perfectly reasonable unlike people who think you should cater to every single retard encounter possibility, which is going to be impossible.
And im actually involved in packaging design for my firms exports so I understand that you cant solve retarded handling completely. In this case, i literally wouldnt even bother if i was nintendo to change packaging based on one stores failure
And gamestop has already admitted fault and stated they’ve confiscated staplers
I used to work in a body shop for repairing cars. I'd order, check in, and deliver all the various parts to the mechanics and techs. We repaired all manner of cars from various manufacturers.
Some manufacturers delivered their parts in the most minimal and shittiest of packaging, not caring about the rigors of transport and handling, letting tons of parts be destroyed because they'd rather put it on the customer and pinch pennies in packaging, so the CEOs could make even more money. Other manufacturers, though, took more pride in their work, and the packaging showed it, as those parts almost never arrived damaged (like Honda, for example).
Packaging is supposed to protect the product inside from typical transportation and handling. If an electronic distributor is putting sensitive electronic equipment, like a screen, directly next to thin surface cardboard, such that any bump on a sharp corner, drop, rock on the ground, or a staple would damage it, I'd put that directly on the manufacturer and distributor, for being so monumentally stupid that they wouldn't invest an extra penny or two to add foam or a card board separator to put distance between the item inside to the surface cardboard. It sounds identical to certain car manufacturers who packaged their plastic fascia bumpers in thin plastic (like something that holds the cereal in a cereal box), with no other protection, and then act surprised when they're scratched and gouged to hell when they arrive at their destination, putting more work on the techs to repair them, on the body shop guys to reject and return them, on the drivers to take them back and bring another one, and on the parts distributors for having to file a claim on them and reorder another part, just because the manufacturer wanted to pinch literal pennies on packaging.
Stapling a box is, admittedly, stupid if you don't know where the item is in the box, but a certain level of idiot proofing and packaging protection should be levied against the manufacturer, such that a staple shouldn't damage the thing inside.
If you've never dealt with mass package handling and transport, you probably don't understand how infuriating this issue can be. We see the motivation for this causing other issues too, society wide, where the pursuit and prioritization of money (i.e greed) is destroying us, through things like outsourcing, Chinesium knockoffs everywhere, open borders and mass non-white immigration to drive down wages, feminism to push women into the workforce run masse to drive labor costs down further, diversity in IT and coding resulting in ennumerable headaches and shit code, diversity hired building shittier products, such that it's sometimes killing people (like that bridge collapse by the all women engineer team), companies competing against each other in a death spiral of becoming cheaper and cheaper, making worse products with cheaper materials, to the detriment and harm of the people.
Nice giant post... But in this case, it's you at the body shop having a finished product, a complete 100% in good repair car, and slamming a hammer through it to attach a sales contract because you didn't have any tape on hand.
No it's not. Very small rocks on the ground were enough to damage parts, inside their packaging, for parts that were so large that they could only be dragged across the floor.
This is precisely what I'm talking about. Most people have no clue what's involved with mass shipment of products, and the absolutely shit level of protective packaging some manufacturers put their stuff in.
I mean Im involved with import export manufacturing on the container level so I know what youre talking about but even i dont think theres anything wrong with nintendos packaging. You can complain about greed but the fact is the packaging works? If some idiot hadnt stapled the boxes, the consumer would have received a working switch 2 like everyone else did
You might have a point IF there were mass reports of nintendo switches arriving with cracked screens etc. but there arent, so nintendo isnt just shipping shit randomly like the first group of manufacturers you mention, and other than this particular incident where its clearly user error, i havent seen anyone else complain about the condition they got their switch 2 in. So in that case, is nintendo more like the first group of manufacturers you mention or more like honda?
The point stands, that if Nintendo, or any other electronics manufacturer, puts a screen directly against surface cardboard, they're incompetent and greedy. A simply cardboard insert to put space between the screen and outside cardboard is pennies, perhaps less than a penny, per box. At some level, I agree with you, that the manufacturer can't design their packaging to protect against everything, but...
This is how companies manipulate people into defending their greed, and you've fallen in the trap. Degradation of merit and quality has been accelerating due to rampant greed for decades, and here you are, defending it, by taking an isolated case of plausible deniability on a seller, and completely missing the forest for the trees. These companies are not worth defending. They absolutely deserve to be shamed for their penny pinching and greed.
On the course you're arguing for, we're going to keep seeing this degradation of merit and quality.
The point stands, that if Nintendo, or any other electronics manufacturer, puts a screen directly against surface cardboard, they're incompetent and greedy.
You, apparently, have not bought any handheld electronic devices since the early 2000s.
Maybe you’re not supposed to purposely puncture the front of the box. I’ll point out that of all the sales of the switch 2 in the world, there’s one store employee that did this. Just how much are you supposed to pander to idiots?
Even if you want to claim liability, it’s a very simple case. Who do you think is responsible for replacing the switch 2s? Nintendo or gamestop? You think gamestop is going to be able to claim defective packaging from Nintendo? If not, then it’s pretty obvious whose fault it is
Bruh.
Two things can be true at the same time.
The packaging could be better. The GameStop employee could be “not a dumbass”
But never, ever, underestimate the dumbass factor
Anything could always be better. That’s not an argument. The qns is whether the packaging is fit for purpose, barring retards. And considering it’s one store in a global launch having this issues then it’s fine.
If there was mass reports of switch2s being received with cracked screens then I’d say they need to look at their packaging. But there isn’t
You’re simping pretty hard for Nintendo right now dude.
Packaging is part of the manufacturing design. There a million and one products out there that encounter failure edge cases. Are they all “packagings fault?” No probably not explicitly.
But that is part of the packaging design life cycle and companies should be cognizant and responsible for improving their packaging design based on failures in the field.
So it doesn’t matter whose fault it is. What matters is what Nintendo and GameStop do about it. And if one or both of them just says “not my fault” then fuck them.
Nah, i dont have a switch 2 nor am i going to buy it until it has more than just mario kart on it. I am pointing out the packaging is perfectly reasonable unlike people who think you should cater to every single retard encounter possibility, which is going to be impossible.
And im actually involved in packaging design for my firms exports so I understand that you cant solve retarded handling completely. In this case, i literally wouldnt even bother if i was nintendo to change packaging based on one stores failure
And gamestop has already admitted fault and stated they’ve confiscated staplers
I used to work in a body shop for repairing cars. I'd order, check in, and deliver all the various parts to the mechanics and techs. We repaired all manner of cars from various manufacturers.
Some manufacturers delivered their parts in the most minimal and shittiest of packaging, not caring about the rigors of transport and handling, letting tons of parts be destroyed because they'd rather put it on the customer and pinch pennies in packaging, so the CEOs could make even more money. Other manufacturers, though, took more pride in their work, and the packaging showed it, as those parts almost never arrived damaged (like Honda, for example).
Packaging is supposed to protect the product inside from typical transportation and handling. If an electronic distributor is putting sensitive electronic equipment, like a screen, directly next to thin surface cardboard, such that any bump on a sharp corner, drop, rock on the ground, or a staple would damage it, I'd put that directly on the manufacturer and distributor, for being so monumentally stupid that they wouldn't invest an extra penny or two to add foam or a card board separator to put distance between the item inside to the surface cardboard. It sounds identical to certain car manufacturers who packaged their plastic fascia bumpers in thin plastic (like something that holds the cereal in a cereal box), with no other protection, and then act surprised when they're scratched and gouged to hell when they arrive at their destination, putting more work on the techs to repair them, on the body shop guys to reject and return them, on the drivers to take them back and bring another one, and on the parts distributors for having to file a claim on them and reorder another part, just because the manufacturer wanted to pinch literal pennies on packaging.
Stapling a box is, admittedly, stupid if you don't know where the item is in the box, but a certain level of idiot proofing and packaging protection should be levied against the manufacturer, such that a staple shouldn't damage the thing inside.
If you've never dealt with mass package handling and transport, you probably don't understand how infuriating this issue can be. We see the motivation for this causing other issues too, society wide, where the pursuit and prioritization of money (i.e greed) is destroying us, through things like outsourcing, Chinesium knockoffs everywhere, open borders and mass non-white immigration to drive down wages, feminism to push women into the workforce run masse to drive labor costs down further, diversity in IT and coding resulting in ennumerable headaches and shit code, diversity hired building shittier products, such that it's sometimes killing people (like that bridge collapse by the all women engineer team), companies competing against each other in a death spiral of becoming cheaper and cheaper, making worse products with cheaper materials, to the detriment and harm of the people.
Nice giant post... But in this case, it's you at the body shop having a finished product, a complete 100% in good repair car, and slamming a hammer through it to attach a sales contract because you didn't have any tape on hand.
No it's not. Very small rocks on the ground were enough to damage parts, inside their packaging, for parts that were so large that they could only be dragged across the floor.
This is precisely what I'm talking about. Most people have no clue what's involved with mass shipment of products, and the absolutely shit level of protective packaging some manufacturers put their stuff in.
I mean Im involved with import export manufacturing on the container level so I know what youre talking about but even i dont think theres anything wrong with nintendos packaging. You can complain about greed but the fact is the packaging works? If some idiot hadnt stapled the boxes, the consumer would have received a working switch 2 like everyone else did
You might have a point IF there were mass reports of nintendo switches arriving with cracked screens etc. but there arent, so nintendo isnt just shipping shit randomly like the first group of manufacturers you mention, and other than this particular incident where its clearly user error, i havent seen anyone else complain about the condition they got their switch 2 in. So in that case, is nintendo more like the first group of manufacturers you mention or more like honda?
The point stands, that if Nintendo, or any other electronics manufacturer, puts a screen directly against surface cardboard, they're incompetent and greedy. A simply cardboard insert to put space between the screen and outside cardboard is pennies, perhaps less than a penny, per box. At some level, I agree with you, that the manufacturer can't design their packaging to protect against everything, but...
This is how companies manipulate people into defending their greed, and you've fallen in the trap. Degradation of merit and quality has been accelerating due to rampant greed for decades, and here you are, defending it, by taking an isolated case of plausible deniability on a seller, and completely missing the forest for the trees. These companies are not worth defending. They absolutely deserve to be shamed for their penny pinching and greed.
On the course you're arguing for, we're going to keep seeing this degradation of merit and quality.
You, apparently, have not bought any handheld electronic devices since the early 2000s.