A police spokesman disputed Mr. Kern de Gonzales’s account about what had motivated the attack.
“Our investigation has found no evidence whatsoever to indicate that the Mr. Joss’s murder was related to his sexual orientation,” the spokesman said in a statement. “We take such allegations very seriously and have thoroughly reviewed all available information. Should any new evidence come to light, we will charge the suspect accordingly.”
Meanwhile, the 'husband' of the deceased, who calls herself Tristan but whose real name is Lindsey, has posted a Facebook message suggesting that the earlier house fire was set by "homophobes" in the community (even though they had already admitted that it was their own fault).
Furthermore, she claims that a neighbor was so outraged by seeing a man and a woman together, that he shouted slurs at them, went away to take a gun and shot him dead as he pushed her out of the way. Why pushing her out the way would save her from a guy with a gun was not explained.
Naturally, Redditors are eating this up, and blaming Trump for it. They are repeatedly citing the Facebook post by Lindsey and repeating it as Gospel truth. Sober voices are drowned out and reportedly banned. Anyone pointing out his erratic behavior, mental illness and possible drug addiction is downvoted to hell.
This is 100% a hate crime. Not only for being gay, but for being a native American too, I imagine. Just, so much hate, both reasons being reasonable to assume. [+59]
Sure, why not tack that on as well?
He already endured and suffered and struggled so much and then finding skulls of his animals and then being shot in front of his partner who was there for him and his companion. ITS SICK AND HORRIBLE [+21]
All for being gay. It's 2025. We are regressing as a society. I don't want to politicize things but it seems like ever since 2017 hate has been everywhere. [+67]
But his husband just posted a Facebook status clarifying that their neighbors in San Antonio were racist and homophobic and threatened their safety numerous times, specifically threatening to burn their house down. Then they went to the property to check the mail and found the skull of their dead dog in the mailbox. That's what started the argument and ended with Jonathan being murdered. [+36]
Now racism is involved. You can see the tale grow by the comment.
https://archive.is/Ktg75
https://archive.is/XFXOp
How many of these have had had now? They don't learn to take their time. It's time to hold people who spread such hoaxes accountable (in a legal manner).
Matthew Shepherd was killed by meth dealers but it became a hate crime with a foundation that is still around today.
You ever seen "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence?"
Not just meth dealers, gay meth dealers, at least one of which had relations with Sheperd in the days leading up to the drug deal they killed him over. But of course we were all told he was killed by homeopathic rednecks for being gay.
I know that is a typo, but damn did I have a laugh.
It's a great band name
On a related note Homeopathic Redskin could be the perfect stage name for Elizabeth Warren too.
She's a bit deluded... I mean diluted.
Matthew Shepherd was a meth dealer who was killed by meth dealers.
Matthew Shepherd was killed his own meth dealers who he had robbed.EDIT: Misremembered details.
These people live in their own fanfiction. Everything is about how they are The Resistance and fighting the evil forces of BadOrangeMan and the White Male Patriarchy.
Seeing the world exclusively in oppressor/victim terms (the latter being Pure Good and nothing they do can ever be unjustified, the former Pure Evil and incomprehensible monsters on every level - but also morals are relative and Christianity is just a dumb superstition amirite??) is the keystone of the midwit Redditbrain.
This is near peak clown world.
Joss is gay when he fucks a vagina.
His "husband" has a vagina and chin pubes and is a totally valid man.
His neighbor (hispanic) can't stand seeing two men together, and he kills out of homophobia and hatred of native americans.
Joss burned down his house (that was disconnected from gas and electricity) by leaving a grill ignited inside. Oh the irony if it was propane...Hank Hill would be shaking his head.
Anyway, Joss burned down his house, killed his dogs, apparently left their bodies just laying around, admitted all of this to the newspaper, but because his pooner girlfriend claims the neighbors committed hatecrimes, now it's not their fault.
It's just so fucking crazy.
Take your upvote.
Excuse me, there are men who can't grow beards, like Njall. That doesn't make them any less valid as a man. The fact that HE can grow chin pubes already makes HIM more of a man than those so called men.
It's the fault of Trump, Musk and Putin, who emboldened his neighbor to attack him and his HUSBAND with their non-stop hatemongering against the queer community.
Don't be ableist against the neurodiverse.
I have to admit, considering the recent mass antipathy against faggotry, I wonder if some guy did actually want to shoot a gay every time these stories pop up. Then I come to my senses.
I've heard some tales from boomers though. In the olden days, "picking up" gays and robbing them did happen because nobody wanted to come out of the closet. (Not a big danger compared to HIV, of course.)
Of course the hysterical queens are playing victim first and foremost.
There’s a narcissism threaded through leftist identity politics. These people think nothing bad should ever happen to their protected demographics. A meth head prostitute gets murdered as a result of his deliberate association with hard drug dealers, but it’s a hate crime because he’s gay. A man tries to pass a counterfeit bill and then dies in police custody after he swallows his own fentanyl stash, but it’s a hate crime because he’s black. The implication is that any bad outcome is undeserved if you belong to a protected demographic.
Contrast this attitude with modern white identity politics, which basically says “no, it’s not our fault that you did something stupid and suffered the consequences”.
What do the people want, the death penalty for fucking hate crimes?
Not people, communists. But yes, that's exactly what they want.
Can I get a TLDR
Archived the Facebook posts and TMZ article
Facebook 1:
Facebook 2:
TMZ:
Good job!
What’s the rundown on this situation?
https://www.kens5.com/video/news/crime/jonathan-joss-pitchfork-video/273-334b0748-a692-461a-b916-2696f4ded1c4
Saw this video in one of the r/news threads about it.
Looks like there was some ongoing shit between that guy and his immigrant neighbor.
I dont know how the normys are going to handle it if it comes out that jhonny was starting shit with some illegal immigrant gang member (he keeps mentioning in the video that brandishing a gun is enough to get you deported).
Im sure they will pretend like it never happened and it was just a one off thing and that immigrants arent capable of that kinda of violence. It would have to be a white man killing him for them to care lmao.
Whoever recorded the video is scum too, you can hear her snickering in the background. Im guessing dude picked the wrong fight.
Yeah, I've seen enough.
I've seen fat boomer libs stomp around acting like they're tough before. Millennial and zoomer libs will only do that with white people, but for some reason boomers think they can do that to minorities too. Egalitarian brainwashing, I guess. Then they end up assaulted, stabbed, or shot.
An actor, most famous for his roles as John Redcorn in KOTH and a role in Parks & Recs, was shot by a neighbor. The neighbor apparently had long standing beef with the actor Ross. The neighbor shot and killed Ross. Ross' partner, who is apparently a transformers, is saying the neighbor was a homophobe and that's why he was shot by the neighbor. So far the police are saying they have no evidence it was a hate crime