I showed this bill to my mom (boomer) yesterday and she legit went silent and then asked me to give her more details later. And this is after teeth grinding about me insisting APAIC and their Israeli sponsors seem to own the US gov. You know I'm a JQ poster, but HR867 makes me feel pretty justified. Or at least we should revisit APAIC et al as foreign agents.
PS: congress passed legislation hat effectively pronounced the Gospels as "anti-Semitic," but they passed an exception last week for the Christian religion. Why did they pass the measure to begin with?
Maybe, maybe not. Might just be playing the fool to bait someone into outright saying the quiet part out loud, which is obvious to some but would probably redpill others if it was said so blatantly.
Yeah, she's definitely sort of retarded...but nowhere near as much as she plays it.
She's an incredibly sharp retard, from what I can tell.
Her Tim Pool interview from a couple years back was quite enlightening, as I hadn't heard her talk longform before. Although she's done some things I don't like, I think she does - or at least did, haven't followed her recent actions - have her head on straight, and recognized a bunch of the problems we face.
Defeating it is great and all, but in the end it's just a defensive victory. Would like to go on offense here. First order of business: get this Mike Lawler dude who sponsored this bill as far away from a legislative position as possible. Primary the hell out of that guy or ensure he does not win his seat next time.
The current bill this post is about adds literally 4 words (adds "or international governmental organization,’’ after ‘‘foreign country’’ each place it appears) in a pre-existing 2018 law called The Anti-Boycott Act of 2018 and allows the govt to make a list of boycotts that are taking foreign money.
20 years / big fine are in the 2018 law and not this failed amendment
massie/mtg/kirk did not just prevent that from happening
you can legally (and should) boycott israel
no one has ever been prosecuted via The Anti-Boycott Act of 2018 despite the presence of boycotts that actively take foreign money
Not for Americans. Explicitly for American companies that were contracted by the government that, while under government contract, decided to change their opinion on whether or not they would participate in the divestment effort. American companies that will probably have it written into their contract not to engage in the divestment campaign.
This was a gigantic nothing burger. It's not even censorship.
You know that's a lie. Moreover, a nothing burger contributes nothing, because it's a nothing. No one really benefits or looses from a nothing burger. It's mostly just a distraction to virtue signal. Nothing happened here, either pro or anti Israel.
Yeah was a huge red pill for me when I noticed "libertarians" doing more of this than actually defending individual liberties. And why Ron Paul got sidelined after his support for defunding Israeli foreign aid.
Literally no rear-guard action. The law is stupid and the debate on it doesn't matter. You're just wasting your time on nothing. If you pass it, nothing changes. If you don't pass it, nothing also changes. You are expending political capital for nothing, about nothing.
Not like any of that matters, you'd set my children on fire for not supporting whatever ethno-state you would choose to back. You don't believe in anti-censorship, just winning. Which is why I'm telling you you're not winning or losing, you're just doing nothing on this specific issue.
No Americans are going to go to jail for any reason related to this. That's what I'm saying. Why would a federal contractor, who probably became a federal contractor because they weren't in opposition to Israel, who also will be required in most of their contracts to continue fulfilling their contracts without regard to Israel (or even have it explicitly noted that they can't be in opposition to Israel in order to get the contract), suddenly turn around and break their contract with the feds explicitly stating that it was done for following the UN Human Rights council's guidance?
There is no reason to do that. It's not going to happen.
What the anti-Israel crowd always pretends this means is that I can't refuse to buy bagels from Israel or I'll go to federal prison. That's never the case.
Margarine, you were not personally arrested by the feds for boycotting Israel.
And to be clear, I'm not talking about employees, I'm talking about the companies that are federal contractors. If you decided to stop doing your job at your company, while already having been tasked with federal work, the issue wouldn't be whether or not you violated the law. The issue would be how quickly you would be fired for choosing not to do your job.
The issue would be how quickly you would be fired for choosing not to do your job.
This is hilarious for all the wrong reasons. You've clearly not spent any time in the federal contracting space. There is a reason a bunch of my buddies and I who work in federal contracting are all rooting for DOGE.
Years ago on a different role than the one I work now, we had a white board in our room and on it we kept a running list of all the wild shit you could do at the department and not get fired. It ranged all the way from minor insubordination to adultery all the way to criminal behavior. I sometimes wish I still had that list for reference because it was absolutely nuts and we would not have believed all the stuff that ended up on it if we hadn't all witnessed it ourselves.
Your convincing me that we need an 'anti-semitism bill' to fire government employees. Bet we could get away with that too. Leftists do say jew-hating shit from time to time...
Maybe you wouldn't be fired by the government, but I'm saying you might get fired by your boss at the company. It's not the same as being an actual federal employee if you are still working for a private company.
Disturbing this even came up for a vote
It'll probably be more vague next time so nobody notices soon enough to warn people like this.
I showed this bill to my mom (boomer) yesterday and she legit went silent and then asked me to give her more details later. And this is after teeth grinding about me insisting APAIC and their Israeli sponsors seem to own the US gov. You know I'm a JQ poster, but HR867 makes me feel pretty justified. Or at least we should revisit APAIC et al as foreign agents.
PS: congress passed legislation hat effectively pronounced the Gospels as "anti-Semitic," but they passed an exception last week for the Christian religion. Why did they pass the measure to begin with?
I hope the boomer response wasn't since it didn't pass, the government obviously isn't controlled by Israel
It was probably "who cares, my retirement account is still in the black"
Even Matt Walsh and Charlie Kirk opposed it (but more saying "you'll prove those heckin unwholesome white nationalists right about ZOG!")
They thought they saw their chance under Trump if they wrapped it around being anti left/woke
Be glad they did it now than when it was MORE guaranteed.
Well-meaning retard moment
Maybe, maybe not. Might just be playing the fool to bait someone into outright saying the quiet part out loud, which is obvious to some but would probably redpill others if it was said so blatantly.
Yeah, she's definitely sort of retarded...but nowhere near as much as she plays it.
She's an incredibly sharp retard, from what I can tell.
Her Tim Pool interview from a couple years back was quite enlightening, as I hadn't heard her talk longform before. Although she's done some things I don't like, I think she does - or at least did, haven't followed her recent actions - have her head on straight, and recognized a bunch of the problems we face.
Defeating it is great and all, but in the end it's just a defensive victory. Would like to go on offense here. First order of business: get this Mike Lawler dude who sponsored this bill as far away from a legislative position as possible. Primary the hell out of that guy or ensure he does not win his seat next time.
Good! But as others have already said, it shouldn't have come anywhere near this close.
Everyone involved should have been too monumentally embarrassed to even think about pushing this, much less putting proverbial pen to paper.
Now we need to force them to pass a bill making bills like this illegal.
We have idiota on this site that were for that bill, and arguing that it was antisemetic to point out why it was not an American First bill.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/119/hr867/text/dhg-408903
The current bill this post is about adds literally 4 words (adds "or international governmental organization,’’ after ‘‘foreign country’’ each place it appears) in a pre-existing 2018 law called The Anti-Boycott Act of 2018 and allows the govt to make a list of boycotts that are taking foreign money.
20 years / big fine are in the 2018 law and not this failed amendment
massie/mtg/kirk did not just prevent that from happening
you can legally (and should) boycott israel
no one has ever been prosecuted via The Anti-Boycott Act of 2018 despite the presence of boycotts that actively take foreign money
6A track, and report. That's an Israel First bill. Wtf would our government track and report American citizens to a foreign fucking entity?!
We're under hostile foreign occupation.
The fact that people defend that shit is insane.
Generations of media brainwashing (and fluoride in the water).
Adding "IGO" to that law would implicate American citizens.
It’s a bait bill. Israel will use it to target any politicians to vote yes on something they want later.
Lol as if they don't know this already. They all have AIPAC handlers dude
Not for Americans. Explicitly for American companies that were contracted by the government that, while under government contract, decided to change their opinion on whether or not they would participate in the divestment effort. American companies that will probably have it written into their contract not to engage in the divestment campaign.
This was a gigantic nothing burger. It's not even censorship.
We get it, you're a philosemite.
They must have Epstein video on him.
You know that's a lie. Moreover, a nothing burger contributes nothing, because it's a nothing. No one really benefits or looses from a nothing burger. It's mostly just a distraction to virtue signal. Nothing happened here, either pro or anti Israel.
The small government, libertarian, anti-idpol guy is rear-guarding the government persecuting people for not supporting a Jewish ethnostate...again.
No way.
Yeah was a huge red pill for me when I noticed "libertarians" doing more of this than actually defending individual liberties. And why Ron Paul got sidelined after his support for defunding Israeli foreign aid.
Literally no rear-guard action. The law is stupid and the debate on it doesn't matter. You're just wasting your time on nothing. If you pass it, nothing changes. If you don't pass it, nothing also changes. You are expending political capital for nothing, about nothing.
Not like any of that matters, you'd set my children on fire for not supporting whatever ethno-state you would choose to back. You don't believe in anti-censorship, just winning. Which is why I'm telling you you're not winning or losing, you're just doing nothing on this specific issue.
Giz, it ain't a nothing burger for Americans of any kind not going to jail for opposing any fuckin foreign state for any reason.
Yes, that was the foot in he door that all Americans got fucked...
No Americans are going to go to jail for any reason related to this. That's what I'm saying. Why would a federal contractor, who probably became a federal contractor because they weren't in opposition to Israel, who also will be required in most of their contracts to continue fulfilling their contracts without regard to Israel (or even have it explicitly noted that they can't be in opposition to Israel in order to get the contract), suddenly turn around and break their contract with the feds explicitly stating that it was done for following the UN Human Rights council's guidance?
There is no reason to do that. It's not going to happen.
What the anti-Israel crowd always pretends this means is that I can't refuse to buy bagels from Israel or I'll go to federal prison. That's never the case.
Hello, it's me, the refutation of your premise.
Margarine, you were not personally arrested by the feds for boycotting Israel.
And to be clear, I'm not talking about employees, I'm talking about the companies that are federal contractors. If you decided to stop doing your job at your company, while already having been tasked with federal work, the issue wouldn't be whether or not you violated the law. The issue would be how quickly you would be fired for choosing not to do your job.
This is hilarious for all the wrong reasons. You've clearly not spent any time in the federal contracting space. There is a reason a bunch of my buddies and I who work in federal contracting are all rooting for DOGE.
Years ago on a different role than the one I work now, we had a white board in our room and on it we kept a running list of all the wild shit you could do at the department and not get fired. It ranged all the way from minor insubordination to adultery all the way to criminal behavior. I sometimes wish I still had that list for reference because it was absolutely nuts and we would not have believed all the stuff that ended up on it if we hadn't all witnessed it ourselves.
Your convincing me that we need an 'anti-semitism bill' to fire government employees. Bet we could get away with that too. Leftists do say jew-hating shit from time to time...
Maybe you wouldn't be fired by the government, but I'm saying you might get fired by your boss at the company. It's not the same as being an actual federal employee if you are still working for a private company.