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New York Times: "How Spain’s Success in Renewable Energy May Have Left It Vulnerable" (archive.is)
posted 1 year ago by AntonioOfVenice 1 year ago by AntonioOfVenice +52 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 26 points 1 year ago +26 / -0

You want actually green energy? Focus on nuclear fusion.

Solar panels are an addition to the grid at best, wind turbines cause more damage in production, deployment and disposal.

Dams are good but depends on location and geothermal are HEAVILY reliant on location. Doing 'green energy' without considering this means you're either a fool or you're scamming people.

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– ernsithe 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Solar panels are an addition to the grid at best

It's a nice offset for the extra AC draw in summer. Of course that balance goes away if the tards get their way in forcing everyone from natural gas to electric heating.

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– SoctaticMethod1 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

It's why I've got nothing against putting them on roofs of houses to try and provide a slight boost.

But I'm against having entire fields of them on the ground in MOST areas as a lot of those areas can be better used agriculturally or even serve the environment better left to go wild for insect and fauna population.

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– SarcasticRidley 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

What I don't understand is why they aren't on top of every parking lot in the country. They would provide much needed shade in the summer, and generate a lot of extra electricity without taking up extra real estate.

Think about how large a Walmart parking lot is, and imagine over basically every parking space there is a solar panel the size of a car. Multiply that by every one of those enormous parking lots and you would have a field of solar panels the size of Rhode Island.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

What I don't understand is why they aren't on top of every parking lot in the country.

Initial cost.

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– SoctaticMethod1 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Because that...is a REALLY smart idea.

Seriously, I often wounder if people in charge of city planning in most countries are just dumb by design or their corruption stops them from making decisions like this that benefit everyone.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I think molten salt plants are more efficient than vast fields of photovoltaics. They also go best of in the desert where nothing will grow.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Most independence from the grid. Even if you're connected. Even if you don't have to be independent, it's good to be.

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– Guy_Incognito76 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Solar panels are complete trash. They should only be used as a last resort--when portability and lack of grid make it the only option.

It's a function of cost over time. In the best possible conditions solar panels barely make back their cost. All other power systems generate 10-100x their value in energy. Solar power is just setting money on fire.

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