Some migrants told me that another factor, one that predates Trump’s second term, is driving southbound migration too: the grave danger to would-be asylum seekers idling in Mexico. In January 2024, the Mexican government began helping U.S. officials move migrants and asylum seekers away from the U.S. border. In southern Mexico, where corrupt public officials often overlook cartel violence, criminals have extorted and kidnapped people, sometimes targeting those likely to have U.S.-based relatives willing to pay their ransoms. Several migrants told me that they wanted to escape conditions in Mexico that were worse than those that inspired them to leave their home countries in the first place.
Sooo you’re admitting they weren’t actually asylum seekers?
Costa Rica is quickly becoming overwhelmed. When I met with him last month, Omer Badilla Toledo, a vice minister who oversees migration policy for Costa Rica’s government, told me that the country of about 5.1 million people was currently processing more than 200,000 asylum applications. According to IOM officials I spoke with, the country’s asylum system had a nine-month backlog. None of the seven shelters I visited had any vacancies.
Over 10% of the US population is either here illegally or the child of someone here illegally, spare me your “overwhelmed” bullshit.
Costa Rican officials acknowledge that they are not fully prepared. “We expect a wave—a gigantic wave,” Badilla told me during an interview in his San José office. “We think they”—migrants—“are staggered between Mexico and Nicaragua, and at some point they are going to explode into Costa Rica.” With sober certainty, he told me that the country would have to declare a state of emergency to authorize the release of state resources to build temporary shelters and provide food, medical assistance, clothing, and toiletries for migrants. “We do not have the capability,” he said.
Then the migrants will move on and be parasitic elsewhere, you believe they will suck blood from a carcass? There’s a reason they aren’t staying in Mexico.
Badilla—an appointee of President Chaves, whose centrist Social Democratic Progress Party won the country’s 2022 election with an anti-corruption campaign—says that xenophobia is already on the rise in Costa Rica. He believes that his party, which faces an election in 2026, only stands to lose from a nativist political backlash like those that have displaced moderate governments in Europe and the United States in recent years.
“Centrist social democrats” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Trump administration might welcome the news that migrants are turning back, but a more unstable Central and South America could hurt U.S. interests. Should Costa Rica’s Washington-friendly government fall, a weaker state or a more Beijing-oriented alternative could be elected in its place. Meanwhile, the shutdown of the U.S. asylum system will pressure more migrants to turn to smugglers to cross the border, and leave migrants vulnerable to exploitation by the Mexican cartels that Trump promised to attack in his campaign. Trump’s policies are tarnishing America’s legacy as a refuge for persecuted people searching for freedom and human rights, and could embolden other nations to adopt similar tactics in violation of international law.
The blatant gaslighting here is insane, we have zero obligation to be the world’s “refugee” center, especially when they are 100% all economic migrants. The left love Mexico except when it becomes time to put migrants there and it suddenly transforms into a cartel run shithole.
Over 10% of the US population is either here illegally or the child of someone here illegally, spare me your “overwhelmed” bullshit.
400 million bahamallions arrive:
If it's a Republican or Working Class White area: "This is a good thing, diversity is winning. Learn to Speak Bahamalianese. There are fewer nations than genders, so it will be fine. Also, pay all of your money for them to live next to you, shoot each other, shit in the street, and fuck your little girl or the TV man will say your racist."
If it's a Democratic, Non-White, or Upper-Class White area: "This is physically intolerable! POLICIA!!!"
“Centrist social democrats” 😂😂😂😂😂
CNN is Right-Wing. Kier Starmer is Right-Wing. Democratic Socialism is Centrist. Mao is Center-Left.
It seems that the author, Justin Gest, doesn't blame Joe Biden for giving false hope during his 4-year tenure as POTUS (Which he should have done) and ruining the lives of so many. Instead this upheaval is somehow Trump's fault in their eyes and any repeated migration damage Southwards lies at his feet.
I don't blame good honest people taking a risk at having a better quality of life. But that opportunity wasn't given to them by Donald Trump.
It's a well known fact that criminals will exploit any weakness for their own gains and any of those genuine people looking to have a crack at the American dream were lied to by Biden and his administration. Discounting all the damage that criminals have done within the US, those people who only wanted a chance have been shat on by Democrats and anyone pointing that out is somehow labelled as an 'enemy'.
Instead of destroying eggs on his way out the door, perhaps Biden should have burned the carrots and suggested the stick.
I don't blame good honest people taking a risk at having a better quality of life.
Coming in illegally at the behest of corporations and politicians to lower the quality of life and create wage stagnation is not what “good, honest” people do. They’re either incredibly naive (doubtful) or doing solely what is in their best interest and act good as a result (until the gravy train ends). It’s easy to be “grateful” when it doesn’t cost you anything, it’s far harder to be grateful when you have to build your own country up and struggle for the next generation to thrive.
I’m sure there’s a few hardworking dudes that wouldn’t totally upset the balance in the US, but I doubt they make up any significant portion of the horde. They should have come in legally anyways.
That’s the point though, even if you’re “hardworking” it’s not to the benefit of the people, it’s to the benefit of a company at the cost of the people. Imagine if we allowed foreign corporations to act as illegal migrants do, they would be shut down immediately.
They come over and work as cooks and cleaners and landscapers for the very elites pushing them on us. Elites are grateful for the labor force. It makes them money.
It seems that the author, Justin Gest, doesn't blame Joe Biden for giving false hope during his 4-year tenure as POTUS (Which he should have done) and ruining the lives of so many. Instead this upheaval is somehow Trump's fault in their eyes and any repeated migration damage Southwards lies at his feet.
Indeed. Some (but not all) Leftist commentators seem to believe that Trump's impact on the USA is too deep to undo at this point (I saw a headline saying something to the effect of "America will not recover from Trump" from what I assume was a leftist outlet). I can thus assume that if the Republican nominee wins the next election, they will take it as a sign that the Democrats are headed for broke and they need to leave the country ASAP, and if the Democrat Nominee wins the next election, then much like during the Biden years, any incidents that occur under their time in office will be brushed off as scars left by the neo-Trump years.
If they are so honest, why is their plan to migrate illegally.
Why are they paying criminals, people smugglers and child sex trafficking rings to smuggle them across the border?
I put it to you that you can not make a plan that flouts the laws of the USA, while paying cartels to aid your criminal acts and then also be an honest man.
We could probably solve all of this by putting massive tariffs on all South American countries until they can provide proof that they're rejecting any and all economic migrants at their borders.
As an upper-class progressive, I assure you that there are no "own countries". Everything south of the Rio Grande is basically just the hellscape from Doom, and refugees appeared exclusively out of the abyss. The border is the Oblivion gate, and I'm a good person for making you live next to it and everything that comes through.
I mean, I can't take anyone. I have a guest bedroom; not a refugee bedroom, idiot.
Sooo you’re admitting they weren’t actually asylum seekers?
Over 10% of the US population is either here illegally or the child of someone here illegally, spare me your “overwhelmed” bullshit.
Then the migrants will move on and be parasitic elsewhere, you believe they will suck blood from a carcass? There’s a reason they aren’t staying in Mexico.
“Centrist social democrats” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The blatant gaslighting here is insane, we have zero obligation to be the world’s “refugee” center, especially when they are 100% all economic migrants. The left love Mexico except when it becomes time to put migrants there and it suddenly transforms into a cartel run shithole.
Can't have every South American here in the USA. Our economy can't take the drain. They have to go/stay back.
400 million bahamallions arrive:
CNN is Right-Wing. Kier Starmer is Right-Wing. Democratic Socialism is Centrist. Mao is Center-Left.
Left is right. Center is far right. Demonology is left. Far left doesn’t exist.
Left is right. Center is far right. Demonology is left. Far left doesn’t exist.
Duplicate comment, but still true the 2nd time.
Demonology is left is my favorite political quote
Costa Rica can not shelter every carpetbagger who stumbles over the border. They will kill themselves if they try.
At some point they must enforce their border. It is an existential problem.
Auto upvote for thread title alone!
It seems that the author, Justin Gest, doesn't blame Joe Biden for giving false hope during his 4-year tenure as POTUS (Which he should have done) and ruining the lives of so many. Instead this upheaval is somehow Trump's fault in their eyes and any repeated migration damage Southwards lies at his feet.
I don't blame good honest people taking a risk at having a better quality of life. But that opportunity wasn't given to them by Donald Trump.
It's a well known fact that criminals will exploit any weakness for their own gains and any of those genuine people looking to have a crack at the American dream were lied to by Biden and his administration. Discounting all the damage that criminals have done within the US, those people who only wanted a chance have been shat on by Democrats and anyone pointing that out is somehow labelled as an 'enemy'.
Instead of destroying eggs on his way out the door, perhaps Biden should have burned the carrots and suggested the stick.
Coming in illegally at the behest of corporations and politicians to lower the quality of life and create wage stagnation is not what “good, honest” people do. They’re either incredibly naive (doubtful) or doing solely what is in their best interest and act good as a result (until the gravy train ends). It’s easy to be “grateful” when it doesn’t cost you anything, it’s far harder to be grateful when you have to build your own country up and struggle for the next generation to thrive.
I’m sure there’s a few hardworking dudes that wouldn’t totally upset the balance in the US, but I doubt they make up any significant portion of the horde. They should have come in legally anyways.
That’s the point though, even if you’re “hardworking” it’s not to the benefit of the people, it’s to the benefit of a company at the cost of the people. Imagine if we allowed foreign corporations to act as illegal migrants do, they would be shut down immediately.
They come over and work as cooks and cleaners and landscapers for the very elites pushing them on us. Elites are grateful for the labor force. It makes them money.
Indeed. Some (but not all) Leftist commentators seem to believe that Trump's impact on the USA is too deep to undo at this point (I saw a headline saying something to the effect of "America will not recover from Trump" from what I assume was a leftist outlet). I can thus assume that if the Republican nominee wins the next election, they will take it as a sign that the Democrats are headed for broke and they need to leave the country ASAP, and if the Democrat Nominee wins the next election, then much like during the Biden years, any incidents that occur under their time in office will be brushed off as scars left by the neo-Trump years.
I don’t give a shit if they are “genuine” people who want a better life.
Fuck off. We’re full.
If they are so honest, why is their plan to migrate illegally.
Why are they paying criminals, people smugglers and child sex trafficking rings to smuggle them across the border?
I put it to you that you can not make a plan that flouts the laws of the USA, while paying cartels to aid your criminal acts and then also be an honest man.
Subjective moralism doesn't work on those who aren't criminals but use criminal means to get to where they are.
Think of that when you're watching the fireworks and swigging on a cold one this July 4th.
These countries were all too happy to let them through when they went north. Now? Not so much anymore.
We could probably solve all of this by putting massive tariffs on all South American countries until they can provide proof that they're rejecting any and all economic migrants at their borders.
Here is the simple solution : send them back to their own country and use force to prevent illegals from entering your country.
As an upper-class progressive, I assure you that there are no "own countries". Everything south of the Rio Grande is basically just the hellscape from Doom, and refugees appeared exclusively out of the abyss. The border is the Oblivion gate, and I'm a good person for making you live next to it and everything that comes through.
I mean, I can't take anyone. I have a guest bedroom; not a refugee bedroom, idiot.
everyone since hart-cellar that didn't meet previous quotas has got to go