For the history of the US the majority of the government's revenue was from tariffs until about 1920. That's when they started to bring over income tax. So the choice generally seems to be you tax your own citizens by raising the price of things from outside, or you outright just take money from them.
The income tax was sold to normies as something only The Rich™ would pay, and that tariffs disproportionately hurt The Poor™. That lasted for a hot minute until the rest of us plebs had to pay income tax too.
Now we have articles on how Trump's tariffs will "punish The Poor™".
I just have to emphasize the obvious, that federal spending was much much lower. The evil of income tax is that it was effective enough to enable our Byzantine apparatus. If we kept peacetime spending at the same per-xapita levels, income tax would merely be an ignored soft-evil.
The income tax was sold to normies as something only The Rich™ would pay...
Wasn't it something incredibly absurd like only 3% or even 0.3% would be affected? I could be misremembering, though. But, yeah, at the time they said it wasn't going to be an 'everyone tax.'
Which should be a general warning about any and every government program.
When income tax was established, it was going to be pretty much only on the top 3% or so. When Social Security was established, it was expressly forbidden to be used as a "national identification number", and was a guaranteed payout. No government program fails to scope creep or expand its budget.
I don't think most of Trump's critics could even explain to you what a tariff is, let alone why its bad and the complexities of how they function. Including in being reflected between nations.
They were just told its bad because he does it, and thereby its bad because he is doing it. Everything else is just backtracing to justify it from there.
I also doubt that a single lefty could tell you the history of tariffs and balance of trade from 1940 onwards without a trip to Wikipedia. Bretton Woods, the Marshall Plan and trying to "rebuild" Europe for 40 years broke the back of the U.S.
Obama hit Canada with tariffs left and right! But mostly left iykwim. We'd got to the legal process and get them tossed, but that took 2 years :/ Then he'd just hit another sector and back to square 1.
The US Media roasted him for it kissed his butt every time!
Orange Man is only doing what other countries have been doing for a long time now. But when he does it, Orange Man bad? So wouldn't that mean, everyone is bad too or nobody is bad? Make it make sense. Sounds to me, that they are just so hate filled towards the Orange Man, they don't care if he is doing something good or bad.
I had all this stuff typed up about what I think I know about tarifs, but y'know what, I don't know shit about them. I know what they are and what they do, but I can't talk like I know more than that. I know almost every country on the face of the earth tarifs other countries when they import and export goods. So having said that just say it wrong when you see it next.
So are corporate taxes, but that doesn't stop leftoids from demanding companies pay their Fair Share™.
For the history of the US the majority of the government's revenue was from tariffs until about 1920. That's when they started to bring over income tax. So the choice generally seems to be you tax your own citizens by raising the price of things from outside, or you outright just take money from them.
The income tax was sold to normies as something only The Rich™ would pay, and that tariffs disproportionately hurt The Poor™. That lasted for a hot minute until the rest of us plebs had to pay income tax too.
Now we have articles on how Trump's tariffs will "punish The Poor™".
Second verse, same as the first.
I just have to emphasize the obvious, that federal spending was much much lower. The evil of income tax is that it was effective enough to enable our Byzantine apparatus. If we kept peacetime spending at the same per-xapita levels, income tax would merely be an ignored soft-evil.
Wasn't it something incredibly absurd like only 3% or even 0.3% would be affected? I could be misremembering, though. But, yeah, at the time they said it wasn't going to be an 'everyone tax.'
Which should be a general warning about any and every government program.
When income tax was established, it was going to be pretty much only on the top 3% or so. When Social Security was established, it was expressly forbidden to be used as a "national identification number", and was a guaranteed payout. No government program fails to scope creep or expand its budget.
Fair share that will go to tyrone for "reparations" and laquisha to get her 11th kid, kid that will become yet another tyrone.
They love every kind of tax except tariffs. Go figure.
The other related inconsistency is:
"You're only hurting yourselves...but also you'll destroy our economy if you do this, we'll do whatever you say if you stop!"
"Hep me, hep me!"
I don't think most of Trump's critics could even explain to you what a tariff is, let alone why its bad and the complexities of how they function. Including in being reflected between nations.
They were just told its bad because he does it, and thereby its bad because he is doing it. Everything else is just backtracing to justify it from there.
I'm browsing Reddit. This is exactly the situation.
I also doubt that a single lefty could tell you the history of tariffs and balance of trade from 1940 onwards without a trip to Wikipedia. Bretton Woods, the Marshall Plan and trying to "rebuild" Europe for 40 years broke the back of the U.S.
They can't even tell you which decade the Pearl Harbor attack took place in
Obama hit Canada with tariffs left and right! But mostly left iykwim. We'd got to the legal process and get them tossed, but that took 2 years :/ Then he'd just hit another sector and back to square 1.
The US Media
roasted him for itkissed his butt every time!Orange Man is only doing what other countries have been doing for a long time now. But when he does it, Orange Man bad? So wouldn't that mean, everyone is bad too or nobody is bad? Make it make sense. Sounds to me, that they are just so hate filled towards the Orange Man, they don't care if he is doing something good or bad.
I had all this stuff typed up about what I think I know about tarifs, but y'know what, I don't know shit about them. I know what they are and what they do, but I can't talk like I know more than that. I know almost every country on the face of the earth tarifs other countries when they import and export goods. So having said that just say it wrong when you see it next.
♫ Tarif don't like it ♫
♫ Rock the casbah ♫
♫ Rock the casbah ♫
I shot the Tariff But I did not shoot the deputy
Same thing in Norway.
None of them care when people point out we have 443% on milk
344% on beef
429% on lamb
Who cares. This just strengthens trumps tariff policy. Speed the collapse.