? Karl's lawyer is possibly the only party that wins in this case. He got paid $600k+ and now he might get even more if there's an appeal. As soon as he heard notch was paying the bill he cranked the billable hours to the moon and fleeced them, Karl got mad but still paid even more.
Good. Jobst is a colossal faggot who lied about the lawsuit and has been trying to play both sides. Mitchell barely had any involvement in the speedrunning community at large to begin with, which is where 99% of the hate towards Apollo came from, meanwhile GDQ organizers were celebrating his suicide. His Jobst going after them? No, even though they'd gladly do the same to him and any of his other "friends."
A funny little tidbit lost in all of people's moral outraging over this is that Apollo named two people specifically as giving him the push needed to do it, and Jobst is still friends with both of them.
This is really a case where both sides have no highground and are both guilty of acting like faggots. And unfortunately one of them lives in Austrailia in which the law is the biggest faggot of all and has now ruined him for it.
And I don't even know if he's friends with them because he legitimately likes them, or he's doing it cynically so he doesn't get blacklisted, which he absolutely would if he cut ties with them, regardless of their responsibility in the matter. No matter what way you cut Karl's behavior, he comes out looking just as bad as the people he's rolling around with.
The only cover he's ever had is that he was going after an acceptable target. People hate Mitchell because they were given permission to, even though it all only comes back to him cheating on some scoreboard for a 40-year old arcade game. He's not remotely a big enough deal to warrant the amount of attention he's gotten, which is probably why he keeps winning these lawsuits. Even the worst judges have to roll their eyes when they're being told to litigate some fucking hyper-autist video game drama. Now that Karl doesn't have that, what's he gonna do? I guess pivot to Elon, since that was his (second-most) latest video. I don't think that's gonna help him much though.
Can you and @Adamrises stop being so cryptic and terminally online WHO are these two people you are talking about? There is no need to be coy about it on this site.
Karl Jobst is one of those youtubers that makes super detailed drama documentaries. I guess Billy Mitchell is one of the poor schmucks that was a subject of a drama documentary.
It was about an accusation that Billy Mitchell contributed to Apollo Legend's suicide. Karl always presented it as about the cheating accusations, using very manipulative language that a lot of people fell for, which is why so many people are upset at Karl despite him losing a lawsuit to a guy who verifiably cheated at a video game.
No, she's Chinese. But that's not an option for him, as China wouldn't like to be seen as giving shelter to criminals; even though they do exactly that for native Chinese who run into trouble in Australia specifically. Lots Chinese party members have gone to AUS to run scams, get rich and then run back to China. He'll likely come to the U.S., anyhow.
Who and who? Isn't Billy Mitchel the guy infamous for allegedly cheating at Donkey Kong. What the fuck do these comments about suicide mean? Actually I'm not sure I care enough. Don't tell me. Leave me ignorant.
Leftists hate Jobst because he used to be a PUA Youtuber before going over to speedrunning drama, which is honestly kind of funny. I never really was into that whole sphere considering I barely read r/TRP as it was anyway, but have seen some of the videos when people link them and it's hilarious
I watch Karl's videos sometimes and this is pretty shocking to me. I'm realizing I didn't even know what the lawsuit was about, I don't even know who this apollo legends person is. I may rewatch Karl's videos on the lawsuit to see how he presented things. I remember him talking about Mitchell using a fake machine with a joystick that proved it was fake, and he acted like he'd caught him red handed. Not sure wtf that has to do with a guy killing himself? Does anyone have a video with a good summary of what happened?
There were a bunch of lawsuits on Karl and also some on Twin Galaxies, in which Karl was involved in the lawsuits somehow. The arcade cabinet was the Twin Galaxies lawsuit IIRC. Billy has been suing everyone for years so its hard to keep track of them all.
Karl's lawyers massively fucked up.
? Karl's lawyer is possibly the only party that wins in this case. He got paid $600k+ and now he might get even more if there's an appeal. As soon as he heard notch was paying the bill he cranked the billable hours to the moon and fleeced them, Karl got mad but still paid even more.
Good. Jobst is a colossal faggot who lied about the lawsuit and has been trying to play both sides. Mitchell barely had any involvement in the speedrunning community at large to begin with, which is where 99% of the hate towards Apollo came from, meanwhile GDQ organizers were celebrating his suicide. His Jobst going after them? No, even though they'd gladly do the same to him and any of his other "friends."
A funny little tidbit lost in all of people's moral outraging over this is that Apollo named two people specifically as giving him the push needed to do it, and Jobst is still friends with both of them.
This is really a case where both sides have no highground and are both guilty of acting like faggots. And unfortunately one of them lives in Austrailia in which the law is the biggest faggot of all and has now ruined him for it.
And I don't even know if he's friends with them because he legitimately likes them, or he's doing it cynically so he doesn't get blacklisted, which he absolutely would if he cut ties with them, regardless of their responsibility in the matter. No matter what way you cut Karl's behavior, he comes out looking just as bad as the people he's rolling around with.
The only cover he's ever had is that he was going after an acceptable target. People hate Mitchell because they were given permission to, even though it all only comes back to him cheating on some scoreboard for a 40-year old arcade game. He's not remotely a big enough deal to warrant the amount of attention he's gotten, which is probably why he keeps winning these lawsuits. Even the worst judges have to roll their eyes when they're being told to litigate some fucking hyper-autist video game drama. Now that Karl doesn't have that, what's he gonna do? I guess pivot to Elon, since that was his (second-most) latest video. I don't think that's gonna help him much though.
Can you and @Adamrises stop being so cryptic and terminally online WHO are these two people you are talking about? There is no need to be coy about it on this site.
Karl Jobst is one of those youtubers that makes super detailed drama documentaries. I guess Billy Mitchell is one of the poor schmucks that was a subject of a drama documentary.
He was talking about naming the two people Apollo talked about and that Jobst is friends with.
DarkViperAU and EZScape
Redman got you down here.
I wasn't attempting to be coy, I simply figured anyone who cared already knew thier names.
Can we get a QRD? I thought this lawsuit was about Mitchell's scores or some shit.
It was about an accusation that Billy Mitchell contributed to Apollo Legend's suicide. Karl always presented it as about the cheating accusations, using very manipulative language that a lot of people fell for, which is why so many people are upset at Karl despite him losing a lawsuit to a guy who verifiably cheated at a video game.
Karl Jobst is Australian. Was he sued in an Australian court? If so, all he has to do is leave Australia behind, which shouldn't be very hard.
I think that is exactly is plan, his wife is some kind of chink so they they will just go there.
Just found her twitter and she looks Vietnamese.
No, she's Chinese. But that's not an option for him, as China wouldn't like to be seen as giving shelter to criminals; even though they do exactly that for native Chinese who run into trouble in Australia specifically. Lots Chinese party members have gone to AUS to run scams, get rich and then run back to China. He'll likely come to the U.S., anyhow.
Hello you absolute legends, today Billy Mitchell has embarassed himself by winning the defamation case
The judge took one look at Billy Mitchell's hair and said: "That's a winner."
:')
Who and who? Isn't Billy Mitchel the guy infamous for allegedly cheating at Donkey Kong. What the fuck do these comments about suicide mean? Actually I'm not sure I care enough. Don't tell me. Leave me ignorant.
[EDIT] I shouldn't have read this thread. https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/19AwtLQkYb/billy-mitchell-wins-his-defamati/c/
Speedrun trannies absolutely BTFO forever.
Fuck Billy Mitchell how can that scumbag win what was obvious truth that he was a liar?
Leftists hate Jobst because he used to be a PUA Youtuber before going over to speedrunning drama, which is honestly kind of funny. I never really was into that whole sphere considering I barely read r/TRP as it was anyway, but have seen some of the videos when people link them and it's hilarious
I watch Karl's videos sometimes and this is pretty shocking to me. I'm realizing I didn't even know what the lawsuit was about, I don't even know who this apollo legends person is. I may rewatch Karl's videos on the lawsuit to see how he presented things. I remember him talking about Mitchell using a fake machine with a joystick that proved it was fake, and he acted like he'd caught him red handed. Not sure wtf that has to do with a guy killing himself? Does anyone have a video with a good summary of what happened?
There were a bunch of lawsuits on Karl and also some on Twin Galaxies, in which Karl was involved in the lawsuits somehow. The arcade cabinet was the Twin Galaxies lawsuit IIRC. Billy has been suing everyone for years so its hard to keep track of them all.