Capeshit vs military sci fi
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Funny they should ask since 40k seems to be at a crossroads with their primarch obsession.
Unsurprisingly these lists are retarded.
NGE fits the Superhero category more than the Military one, despite being military sci-fi more than superhero.
Marvel's Agents of SHIELD does likewise, as do most spy settings as well as almost every single sci-fi show out there.
All the Star Treks and Stargates, despite primarily being military sci-fi shows.
The two lists aren't even correctly titled, nor are they going to work for TTRPG settings which are inherently like the first list about a small group going around doing all the problem solving in the story, which is the entire point of the game in the first place.
The most interesting points on the lists are the phobia of regulation, replication, and oversight. One of the underlying fears is that once something becomes institutionalized then it will be another tool for the dark, elite forces in society.
Another, distinct, fear is that empowering the average joe will lead to anarchy and bloodshed. I would argue this is the opposite of the first fear.
It does not, and the fact that you think it does means you're in that group of people Anno hates because they never got it.
NGE viewed through the lens of OP's superhero filter is a TAKEDOWN of capeshit, showing that actually, no, putting someone into a situation like that would be a serious mindfuck; you will not be Tony Stark, you will either be Shinji or you will be THE COMEDIAN.
Pathfinder. Reign of Winter drops the magic-slinging, supernaturally durable party into Russia and sets them against Rasputin and the Russian army.
Don't suppose there's an archive of the thread available?
You mean like this?
OP is a wobbly wheeled bundle of sticks wanting to suck on Hans Johnson while sipping on some lovely juice.
Nothing to see.
I dont know who Hans Johnson is
This is one of the things that really annoyed me in the Civil War movie vs the comics: in the comics there was literal oppression, anyone who had superhuman abilities (whether they used them or not) was required to register with and be tracked by the government, heroes were required to have their identities be made public. But in the movie it was just: the government will no longer sanction superheroes fighting in the streets whenever and wherever they want and the avengers need to be answerable to the people. In the comics you really could see both sides, in the movie it was literally cap refusing to be held accountable for his actions (ironic, considering his military background).
Cap was fine with being held accountable. He wasn't going to abdicate his moral responsibility to a political committee.
Steve's position was that political committee or not, the power to act was in the hands of the Avengers, so the moral responsibility was theirs too.
Steve was burned by shitty orders and murky political interests in WWII and was not going to do that again. If that meant being hunted down by major government forces, then he was willing to wear that.
That is the exact opposite of refusing to be held accountable.
In contrast Tony Stark wanted to concede his moral responsibility to the government. He had made a bunch of decisions that had turned out really badly (including the creation of Ultron) and he felt guilty. He saw giving up responsibility for command decisions to some bullshit UN committee as a way to absolve himself from both the responsibility for his mistakes and the guilt that followed.
You dun goofed watching that one, guy. You got that one almost exactly backwards.
The amount of tell not show in that movie is astounding. Sure that's what they SAID but what actually happens bears little resemblance to whats said.
In other words, marvel makes bad movies
That isn't in the dialog, which is why GP missed it.
Tony is wracked with guilt because he over-reached. He wanted to build a "suit of armor around the world" and he fucked up, creating Ultron. He is the guy pressuring everyone else into signing the Zakovia accords. Zakovia, which had their capital city pancaked by Ultron.
Steve won't sign. Tony asks him who is going to hold the Avengers responsible or something like that; I'm paraphrasing. Steve refuses to sign.
Watch it again. Tony wants to abdicate responsibility and take his marching orders from the UN. Steve would rather fight the whole fucking world (including Tony) than be told what to do.
They might have worked it out, except for the machinations of Zemo.
Go and watch it again.
Genuinely. The level of interest i have in rewatching a marvel movie that isnt called Age of Ultron is virtually nill.
That's Star Wars if they explored their core premise instead of Disney faggotry.
Jedi are capes. Empire is military sci-fi. I guess you'd have to lose the Sith though.
The Sith fit just fine. The way Emperor Palpatine works (in practice) is a shady government powerbroker. Darth Maul could just as easily be a CIA hit squad.
If you want to play in a different part of the Star Wars setting timeline, then you can have the Sith as terrorists, foreign powers or whatever.
The differences between a Jedi and James Bond are mostly cosmetic.
The great thing about tabletop games is that you can take characters from different franchises and have them do battle in settings which they otherwise would not be able to.
I think a good example of that would be Superman versus The Incredible Hulk but in a universe not native to either of them.
That way their powers might diminish or stand as strong (Or stronger!) depending upon their environment.
Who do you think would win Telia in a aettle between Superman and The Incredible Hulk set in a Max and Moritz universe (Keeping the Wilhelm Busch drawing style)?
Why are you so hyperfocused on this question after being torn to pieces about it only yesterday?
Days since m0r1arty crashout:
Torn to pieces versus pissing myself laughing.
It's an easy one for me.
But by all means, join Stormfront and tear me a new one! xD
Are the Stormfronters in the room with you now?
Yes, he's crying into his cabbage soup frustrated at not understanding what humour is.
I'd say it's sad, but he's wearing lederhosen and a little fishing hat..
Stan Lee put it best:
The winner is whoever the writer wants to win.