These people complaining about wasting government time are the same people who will gladly spend hours of time training with DEI policies, tolerance training, and other shit not directly related to your actual work.
No the unnecessary distraction is explaining what you did during the week.
Imagine the screeching if we removed all non relevant “training” from the DoD. “But how will we deter deep fried turkeys, sexual assault, and DUIs if we don’t force an hour long training session every 3 months?”
...that adds up to 2,333 hours of work. Can you think of a more cartoonish example of government waste than using 292 workdays’ worth of man-hours to clarify that, last week, air-traffic controllers monitored airplanes?
Plenty, because I'm not a blithering retard. I'm a retard, but I never blither, thank you very much.
Here's some more math for this dumbass. There are 52 weeks in a year. A forty hour week comes out to 2,080 hours a year, from one person. That's roughly equal to the time "wasted" in the above example.
So, basically, if this determines even one of those fourteen thousand people are doing an unsatisfactory job, and they are fired, you pretty much break even. So if you have more inefficiency than 0.00007% percent of the workforce, you've made gains.
Also, the premise is completely wrong. They can spend those ten minutes answer the email while they're doing other stuff. It's not completely written off. If they have any downtime, or any time they usually answer emails, it also all balances out.
It doesn't even matter how long or not long it takes, the entire premise of the argument is distorted, they beg the question in classic leftist matter, by not even acknowledging the other side exists outside of caricature.
The key phrase is the last one in your quote "to clarify that last week, air traffic controllers monitored airplanes" it assumes the audit is false on the outset.
The ENTIRE POINT of the audit is the notion that air traffic controllers are probably NOT monitoring aircraft. That's what waste and fraud IS. It's the "police found no evidence of their wrongdoing" writ large. And again, its a quintessential leftist ploy, Snopes used it sycophantically.
Saying it even takes ten minutes is outrageous. Anyone who actually works can answer that in maybe two minutes.
I'd go so far to say that if the five things you did last week don't just jump out of your head in rapid-fire, you're either trying to stretch the truth or straight up lying.
Consider America’s roughly 14,000 Federal Aviation Administration air-traffic controllers. If each of them spends just 10 minutes opening their work email, finding this request, drafting a response, proofreading it, and sending it off, that adds up to 2,333 hours of work. Can you think of a more cartoonish example of government waste than using 292 workdays’ worth of man-hours to clarify that, last week, air-traffic controllers monitored airplanes?
Did they all? Can you showcase that each one actually did the job of an ATC? Can you showcase that each ATC does not waste more than 10 mins per day? No? Funny that
I actually can think of a more cartoonish example, in that it is even bigger in scale: Some 74,000 U.S. Postal Service letter carriers deliver mail on foot, making roughly $29 an hour on average. If they spend 10 minutes each, or 740,000 total minutes, drafting emails, that works out to nearly $360,000 in labor costs. For what? And how long will it take other workers to read “I was delivering letters” 74,000 times?
You mean the Post Office that loses billions each year? Why are they making more than many college graduates delivering mail on foot? Why cant someone making $29 dollars an hour justify that expense?
Any American can identify many more categories of federal employees whose job duties are known to all. We know what TSA agents do. We know what nurses do. An efficient process would obviously exempt all such categories.
Waste time and money while failing massively in regards to the TSA or the worst healthcare outcomes to the point veterans go out of their way to get community care in regards to VA nurses?
Other federal employees of course have less legible job duties, and I do not doubt that some of them accomplished next to nothing of value last week and ought to be fired. But there is no reason to believe that any of those employees will be truthful about their own uselessness, or that untruthful emails will be detected as such. This gambit is more likely to reward bullshitting persuasively via email than actual service to taxpayers.
Because the bullshiters are just too intelligent to be caught making things up right?! Just like your “article” was clearly too intelligent to not be instantly rebuked?
“The reason this matters is that a significant number of people who are supposed to be working for the government are doing so little work that they are not checking their email at all!” Musk also wrote, as if checking email is a reliable measure of productivity in all public-sector jobs. If you’re a NASA employee doing maintenance on a remote telescope, or a Department of Labor employee traveling to far-flung coal mines to assess their safety, or a Coast Guard employee patrolling a patch of ocean, or an NSA employee trying to hack the personal device of a foreign general, checking email irregularly could as easily show that you’re working hard as that you’re hardly working.
Yes because remote workers…. Never check their email which is why they know exactly what remote sites need repairs. Also what coast guard “employee” is deploying on patrol? And what is the NSA agent doing said hacking from again? Amazing how each made up scenario is vastly dependent on… using their computer.
You mean the Post Office that loses billions each year?
To be fair, most federal offices lose 100% of their budget every year. The Post Office is one of the only ones that tries to offset it with a service anyone willingly pays for.
For the sake of comparison, in 2023, the USPS had $79.32B in revenue and a loss of $6.48B. Over the same period, USAID had $71.9B in expenditures and $0 in revenue.
I’d rather Amazon become unionized rather than the USPS become un-unionized. I don’t agree with the working conditions at Amazon’s warehouses, and I have just an inkling that they might be using a ton of H1-B at said warehouses to depress wages
There’s absolutely zero argument for a government job to be unionized. Again the post office lost 7 billion last year, how the fuck is that an excusable factor when the average employee is making 150% of the competitors hourly?
DOGE is wasting time and money on what makes sense only as a troll or a publicity stunt.
It's a warning and a signaling that there is going to be a shift in government culture. The point is not writing the emails. No one is going to read e-mails from 2.3m (holy shit) federal employees. They'll lie anyway.
The point is to say: "You, personally, are on notice that your performance is being watched and you'll be held to account if you're not providing any value." Just getting a focus on efficiency rolling is easily worth 10 minutes per head.
The direct communication is also bit of encouragement to whistleblow, without having managers in the middle.
they might pipe the contents of those emails through chatgpt or another large-language model to see if there are any outliers that demand closer attention :) You'd be surprised what sort of things are possible in this brave new world.
We know what TSA agents do. We know what nurses do.
What an absurd thing to say. I have no idea what TSA agents do outside of my personal interaction with them. I have no idea what nurses do outside my personal interaction with them.
It's a massive showcase of childish leftist narcissism. "Of course Air Traffic Controllers control air traffic!" Yeah, no shit. What else might they be responsible for? Maybe documenting what frequencies were used for comms in case there's a crash and those documents would be used to work on the investigation? No mentoring of other employees? Even fast food burger flippers don't "just" flip burgers.
The urinalist doesn't see that part of the job, so it simply doesn't exist. The idea that someone might be responsible for anything beyond what a child might consider is the job never even crosses their mid-wit minds.
Maybe it's just my anti-Elon (for his immigration stance) bias or my background in software, but that email is puzzling. I don't get what it was supposed to accomplish. I've heard people say, for example, it was to catch people who don't check emails, but it was very publicly telegraphed. Almost anyone who doesn't normally check emails would have known Monday was the exception. It seems like they could just look at records in IT systems to see who doesn't check emails anyway.
Everything I've seen about the actual email shows it not containing any threat of being fired or that failure to respond would be treated as resignation despite what Musk said on Twitter. It looks like he didn't have the balls to include that in the actual email. It looks a lot like "the Epstein files are on my desk!" to me.
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I wouldn't waste my time talking to these people since they're disingenuous and since we have different definitions of what waste is.
Also
Checking your water meter to see if you have a leak is a waste of water.
Signed: The Water Utility Company
These people complaining about wasting government time are the same people who will gladly spend hours of time training with DEI policies, tolerance training, and other shit not directly related to your actual work.
No the unnecessary distraction is explaining what you did during the week.
Imagine the screeching if we removed all non relevant “training” from the DoD. “But how will we deter deep fried turkeys, sexual assault, and DUIs if we don’t force an hour long training session every 3 months?”
Or the training about Black History Month, Women's Holiday training and Pride training
Plenty, because I'm not a blithering retard. I'm a retard, but I never blither, thank you very much.
Here's some more math for this dumbass. There are 52 weeks in a year. A forty hour week comes out to 2,080 hours a year, from one person. That's roughly equal to the time "wasted" in the above example.
So, basically, if this determines even one of those fourteen thousand people are doing an unsatisfactory job, and they are fired, you pretty much break even. So if you have more inefficiency than 0.00007% percent of the workforce, you've made gains.
Also, the premise is completely wrong. They can spend those ten minutes answer the email while they're doing other stuff. It's not completely written off. If they have any downtime, or any time they usually answer emails, it also all balances out.
It doesn't even matter how long or not long it takes, the entire premise of the argument is distorted, they beg the question in classic leftist matter, by not even acknowledging the other side exists outside of caricature.
The key phrase is the last one in your quote "to clarify that last week, air traffic controllers monitored airplanes" it assumes the audit is false on the outset.
The ENTIRE POINT of the audit is the notion that air traffic controllers are probably NOT monitoring aircraft. That's what waste and fraud IS. It's the "police found no evidence of their wrongdoing" writ large. And again, its a quintessential leftist ploy, Snopes used it sycophantically.
Saying it even takes ten minutes is outrageous. Anyone who actually works can answer that in maybe two minutes.
I'd go so far to say that if the five things you did last week don't just jump out of your head in rapid-fire, you're either trying to stretch the truth or straight up lying.
Did they all? Can you showcase that each one actually did the job of an ATC? Can you showcase that each ATC does not waste more than 10 mins per day? No? Funny that
You mean the Post Office that loses billions each year? Why are they making more than many college graduates delivering mail on foot? Why cant someone making $29 dollars an hour justify that expense?
Waste time and money while failing massively in regards to the TSA or the worst healthcare outcomes to the point veterans go out of their way to get community care in regards to VA nurses?
Because the bullshiters are just too intelligent to be caught making things up right?! Just like your “article” was clearly too intelligent to not be instantly rebuked?
Yes because remote workers…. Never check their email which is why they know exactly what remote sites need repairs. Also what coast guard “employee” is deploying on patrol? And what is the NSA agent doing said hacking from again? Amazing how each made up scenario is vastly dependent on… using their computer.
To be fair, most federal offices lose 100% of their budget every year. The Post Office is one of the only ones that tries to offset it with a service anyone willingly pays for.
For the sake of comparison, in 2023, the USPS had $79.32B in revenue and a loss of $6.48B. Over the same period, USAID had $71.9B in expenditures and $0 in revenue.
I can agree with that, I can’t agree with the average mailman being paid 10 bucks an hour more than the average Amazon delivery driver
The USPS is unionized, Amazon isn’t.
I’d rather Amazon become unionized rather than the USPS become un-unionized. I don’t agree with the working conditions at Amazon’s warehouses, and I have just an inkling that they might be using a ton of H1-B at said warehouses to depress wages
There’s absolutely zero argument for a government job to be unionized. Again the post office lost 7 billion last year, how the fuck is that an excusable factor when the average employee is making 150% of the competitors hourly?
Ah yes, the super unbiased Atlantic with an article about Elon.
It's a warning and a signaling that there is going to be a shift in government culture. The point is not writing the emails. No one is going to read e-mails from 2.3m (holy shit) federal employees. They'll lie anyway.
The point is to say: "You, personally, are on notice that your performance is being watched and you'll be held to account if you're not providing any value." Just getting a focus on efficiency rolling is easily worth 10 minutes per head.
The direct communication is also bit of encouragement to whistleblow, without having managers in the middle.
they might pipe the contents of those emails through chatgpt or another large-language model to see if there are any outliers that demand closer attention :) You'd be surprised what sort of things are possible in this brave new world.
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The more they squeak and squawk, the closer Elon and Trump get to ending their financial pipeline. The Audit Train has no breaks!
What an absurd thing to say. I have no idea what TSA agents do outside of my personal interaction with them. I have no idea what nurses do outside my personal interaction with them.
It's a massive showcase of childish leftist narcissism. "Of course Air Traffic Controllers control air traffic!" Yeah, no shit. What else might they be responsible for? Maybe documenting what frequencies were used for comms in case there's a crash and those documents would be used to work on the investigation? No mentoring of other employees? Even fast food burger flippers don't "just" flip burgers.
The urinalist doesn't see that part of the job, so it simply doesn't exist. The idea that someone might be responsible for anything beyond what a child might consider is the job never even crosses their mid-wit minds.
Covid showed us they dance on Tiktok.
Maybe it's just my anti-Elon (for his immigration stance) bias or my background in software, but that email is puzzling. I don't get what it was supposed to accomplish. I've heard people say, for example, it was to catch people who don't check emails, but it was very publicly telegraphed. Almost anyone who doesn't normally check emails would have known Monday was the exception. It seems like they could just look at records in IT systems to see who doesn't check emails anyway.
Everything I've seen about the actual email shows it not containing any threat of being fired or that failure to respond would be treated as resignation despite what Musk said on Twitter. It looks like he didn't have the balls to include that in the actual email. It looks a lot like "the Epstein files are on my desk!" to me.