I haven’t seen the video, but I assume the argument here is that 1) the live-English videos are more interesting to watch now, and 2) the English translations were translated in such a way to make Hitler sound lame, while AI is providing more accurate translations
GO WATCH THE VIDEO. I'd never bothered to read his speeches before, because why would I, right? "Mustache man bad," right? All the movies and video games told us so, right? They're not anywhere near as "racist" as we've been told. Literally "common sense" policy for countries to protect their own people from foreign people and not let them have free access to your stuff. On what planet is that "racist" by even a little?
I read "The Myth of the Twentieth Century" (by one of the nazi intellectuals) and it surprised me how "sophisticated" their racism was. They had nothing against most races, but they felt if they were to implement some form of socialist society, it would rely on everyone being equal. Rosenberg looked at India and remarked how it should be a world-class country, but the caste system created a system of oppression that inhibited the countries culture and in turn its economy. Instead of being creative, people had to spend their lives oppressing lower castes, and lower castes couldn't contribute meaningfully.
To be very clear I'm not saying Hitler isn't evil, or that he is absolved of anything, just that he didn't convince the most educated country in the world to vote for him by being evil. There was a certain amount of sophistication to his logic, and any given Nazi would likely have a reasonably complete argument as to why they were on the good side of history.
I will add the quality of the AI translation is incredible. It sounds like it's recorded on a mic from the period, and it has his voice.
i can't quite agree with the "india is a crap country because of the caste system" take. Europe and Japan historically had castes as well but they were never backwards like India is. its more a people thing than a system thing
They saw Africans and Indians were effectively animals and Slavs were inferior as well. Hitler literally points out in the speech TIK is going over that Socialism is a concept that only Ayran descendants are capable of understanding. This falls in line with the rest of Nazi ideology that the Aryans were the only race capable of forming nations in the first place.
To be very clear I'm not saying Hitler isn't evil, or that he is absolved of anything, just that he didn't convince the most educated country in the world to vote for him by being evil
Not really. Wokeness is quite similar to National Socialism (most of the Race Communist factions are literally identical), and none of their ideas are sophisticated to most people, including intellectuals. It's mostly a religious faith, and the opportunity to make a lot of money, or have a lot of power. There is some core sophistication at the highest levels of the ideologies intellectual thought leaders. But that doesn't tend to trickle down, even if it is the reason why things are being done.
Most of the intellectuals were part of the middle-managerial elite and got near limitless power and influence under Fascism and National Socialism; which is what got their loyalty. Arguments that the Germanic peoples were the nearest blood (not genetic, literal blood) descendants of a hyperborean race known as Aryans who were effectively 12 foot tall frost giants that roamed the land and founded Atlantis is... fucking insane. It's why plenty of Nazis just didn't talk about those parts much, because it's too fucking crazy to say in polite society.
Well Slavs didn't seem to have gotten the memo apparently.
" Secret archive reveals how Russia showed huge support for 'Christian crusader' Nazi invaders who had come to fight 'godless communists' https://archive.md/t0f7z
I mean he linked the video the post was talking about, just not the TIKHistory video (which, frankly, sounds kind of scuzzy).
Also while I want to make it clear Hitler is evil and I'm not absolving him of anything, the particular video he linked seems to be Hitler complaining about how the US won't take any jewish refugees, despite having 1/65th the population density. He then has gripes about treatment after WWI, such as holding soldiers as prisons long after the war ended.
You won't because the camps came after the Holocaust already started.
Instead, you will find constant references to removing jews from society, and that they are a threat to the world itself, so they have to be removed from all societies everywhere because they are basically the cause of all problems on Earth... but then not further elaborating on that.
Anyone who was actually listening to his commentary about jews, understood that he didn't want jews anywhere, ever which really only comes to one thing that every socialist agrees on:
the bourgeoise must be hunted and killed to the very last child.
Yeah, weird how what he said ended up not exactly what happened... It's almost like his talk about a final solution was attempting genocide or something...
Most hitler speech videos don't have english subtitles (we know why) and most people don't bother looking up Hitler's speeches in text form. AI has allowed ordinary people to translate the German in to English dub which has allowed more normies to hear what he said.
The AI videos allow the addition of an approximation of Hitlers voice His regular speeches would change tone dramatically over the course of the long presentation, and the way he used German grammar meant that his sentences never sounded like they ended until he got to his specific point, so those parts are lost to the AI. Reading the speeches, frankly, makes him sound actually more crazy than he would have intended, especially in English, where it can't help but come across as a rant.
The translations are the translations. They're pretty much going to all be similar, the problem is that Hitler used some National Socialist vocabulary that doesn't have any direct translations, and zero connotations, into modern English. Gleitschalung might simply be called "synchronization" in English but means something more like "a mass, sudden, snapping into a different state that allows the thing to move in completely different direction all at once", particularly within the NatSoc ideology. Similarly you might get "Autarkey" or a German word for it, but this term is an archaic Leftist ideological term that isn't used in modern vernacular anymore, even on the Left, so translations might not convey it properly. It might be just translated to "Self-Sufficiency", when it really means "An insular economy so complete and productive that there is no possible need for trade, meaning that it's borders are fully closed, preventing the setting of prices by outside capitalist forces." This concept is so wrong that the Left actually abandoned it, but it forms a critical component to National Socialist ideology, and Hitler's objectives in Europe.
As a result, most translations have a nasty habit of accidentally moderating his speeches because of the missing context that the directly translated words lose. Both the AI and the translators do this.
Tik's argument is specifically that the reason that some of Hitler's speeches have some appeal is because the Left's lies about Hitler to try and scream that he was a hypercapitalist, and the censorship of his speeches in some countries, have caused blowback... particularly among people who believe that socialism and the politics of resentment have appeal. Those things have appeal specifically because the Left grooms society into making them appealing. To inoculate the public against Hitler would be to inoculate them against Socialism & resentment-politics; so they chose to censor and hide so that Socialism can be defended.
I haven’t seen the video, but I assume the argument here is that 1) the live-English videos are more interesting to watch now, and 2) the English translations were translated in such a way to make Hitler sound lame, while AI is providing more accurate translations
GO WATCH THE VIDEO. I'd never bothered to read his speeches before, because why would I, right? "Mustache man bad," right? All the movies and video games told us so, right? They're not anywhere near as "racist" as we've been told. Literally "common sense" policy for countries to protect their own people from foreign people and not let them have free access to your stuff. On what planet is that "racist" by even a little?
I read "The Myth of the Twentieth Century" (by one of the nazi intellectuals) and it surprised me how "sophisticated" their racism was. They had nothing against most races, but they felt if they were to implement some form of socialist society, it would rely on everyone being equal. Rosenberg looked at India and remarked how it should be a world-class country, but the caste system created a system of oppression that inhibited the countries culture and in turn its economy. Instead of being creative, people had to spend their lives oppressing lower castes, and lower castes couldn't contribute meaningfully.
To be very clear I'm not saying Hitler isn't evil, or that he is absolved of anything, just that he didn't convince the most educated country in the world to vote for him by being evil. There was a certain amount of sophistication to his logic, and any given Nazi would likely have a reasonably complete argument as to why they were on the good side of history.
I will add the quality of the AI translation is incredible. It sounds like it's recorded on a mic from the period, and it has his voice.
i can't quite agree with the "india is a crap country because of the caste system" take. Europe and Japan historically had castes as well but they were never backwards like India is. its more a people thing than a system thing
The system determines who reproduces with who and therefore creates the people. Vice versa is also true.
They saw Africans and Indians were effectively animals and Slavs were inferior as well. Hitler literally points out in the speech TIK is going over that Socialism is a concept that only Ayran descendants are capable of understanding. This falls in line with the rest of Nazi ideology that the Aryans were the only race capable of forming nations in the first place.
Not really. Wokeness is quite similar to National Socialism (most of the Race Communist factions are literally identical), and none of their ideas are sophisticated to most people, including intellectuals. It's mostly a religious faith, and the opportunity to make a lot of money, or have a lot of power. There is some core sophistication at the highest levels of the ideologies intellectual thought leaders. But that doesn't tend to trickle down, even if it is the reason why things are being done.
Most of the intellectuals were part of the middle-managerial elite and got near limitless power and influence under Fascism and National Socialism; which is what got their loyalty. Arguments that the Germanic peoples were the nearest blood (not genetic, literal blood) descendants of a hyperborean race known as Aryans who were effectively 12 foot tall frost giants that roamed the land and founded Atlantis is... fucking insane. It's why plenty of Nazis just didn't talk about those parts much, because it's too fucking crazy to say in polite society.
How about you produce a source for that statement?
Well Slavs didn't seem to have gotten the memo apparently.
" Secret archive reveals how Russia showed huge support for 'Christian crusader' Nazi invaders who had come to fight 'godless communists' https://archive.md/t0f7z
The part where he literally argues that jews caused literally all problems on earth and must be removed from all society.
Literally in Mien Kampf.
By the way, you're a fucking coward for not actually linking the video in question.
I mean he linked the video the post was talking about, just not the TIKHistory video (which, frankly, sounds kind of scuzzy).
Also while I want to make it clear Hitler is evil and I'm not absolving him of anything, the particular video he linked seems to be Hitler complaining about how the US won't take any jewish refugees, despite having 1/65th the population density. He then has gripes about treatment after WWI, such as holding soldiers as prisons long after the war ended.
Ah yes, death camps are totally just "common sense policy".
Not the biggest fan of Hitler, but I very much doubt you can find anything about death camps in his speeches
You won't because the camps came after the Holocaust already started.
Instead, you will find constant references to removing jews from society, and that they are a threat to the world itself, so they have to be removed from all societies everywhere because they are basically the cause of all problems on Earth... but then not further elaborating on that.
Anyone who was actually listening to his commentary about jews, understood that he didn't want jews anywhere, ever which really only comes to one thing that every socialist agrees on:
the bourgeoise must be hunted and killed to the very last child.
Yeah, weird how what he said ended up not exactly what happened... It's almost like his talk about a final solution was attempting genocide or something...
Most hitler speech videos don't have english subtitles (we know why) and most people don't bother looking up Hitler's speeches in text form. AI has allowed ordinary people to translate the German in to English dub which has allowed more normies to hear what he said.
Since XBX_X lied to your face and brought you the wrong video, here is the link to Tik's actual video.
The AI videos allow the addition of an approximation of Hitlers voice His regular speeches would change tone dramatically over the course of the long presentation, and the way he used German grammar meant that his sentences never sounded like they ended until he got to his specific point, so those parts are lost to the AI. Reading the speeches, frankly, makes him sound actually more crazy than he would have intended, especially in English, where it can't help but come across as a rant.
The translations are the translations. They're pretty much going to all be similar, the problem is that Hitler used some National Socialist vocabulary that doesn't have any direct translations, and zero connotations, into modern English. Gleitschalung might simply be called "synchronization" in English but means something more like "a mass, sudden, snapping into a different state that allows the thing to move in completely different direction all at once", particularly within the NatSoc ideology. Similarly you might get "Autarkey" or a German word for it, but this term is an archaic Leftist ideological term that isn't used in modern vernacular anymore, even on the Left, so translations might not convey it properly. It might be just translated to "Self-Sufficiency", when it really means "An insular economy so complete and productive that there is no possible need for trade, meaning that it's borders are fully closed, preventing the setting of prices by outside capitalist forces." This concept is so wrong that the Left actually abandoned it, but it forms a critical component to National Socialist ideology, and Hitler's objectives in Europe.
As a result, most translations have a nasty habit of accidentally moderating his speeches because of the missing context that the directly translated words lose. Both the AI and the translators do this.
Tik's argument is specifically that the reason that some of Hitler's speeches have some appeal is because the Left's lies about Hitler to try and scream that he was a hypercapitalist, and the censorship of his speeches in some countries, have caused blowback... particularly among people who believe that socialism and the politics of resentment have appeal. Those things have appeal specifically because the Left grooms society into making them appealing. To inoculate the public against Hitler would be to inoculate them against Socialism & resentment-politics; so they chose to censor and hide so that Socialism can be defended.