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Today i learned of a Chinese saying. (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 4 months ago by Telia 4 months ago by Telia +118 / -6
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– MrJohnTang 5 points 3 months ago +5 / -0

I read "The Myth of the Twentieth Century" (by one of the nazi intellectuals) and it surprised me how "sophisticated" their racism was. They had nothing against most races, but they felt if they were to implement some form of socialist society, it would rely on everyone being equal. Rosenberg looked at India and remarked how it should be a world-class country, but the caste system created a system of oppression that inhibited the countries culture and in turn its economy. Instead of being creative, people had to spend their lives oppressing lower castes, and lower castes couldn't contribute meaningfully.

To be very clear I'm not saying Hitler isn't evil, or that he is absolved of anything, just that he didn't convince the most educated country in the world to vote for him by being evil. There was a certain amount of sophistication to his logic, and any given Nazi would likely have a reasonably complete argument as to why they were on the good side of history.

I will add the quality of the AI translation is incredible. It sounds like it's recorded on a mic from the period, and it has his voice.

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– Telia [S] 9 points 3 months ago +9 / -0

i can't quite agree with the "india is a crap country because of the caste system" take. Europe and Japan historically had castes as well but they were never backwards like India is. its more a people thing than a system thing

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 3 months ago +2 / -0

The system determines who reproduces with who and therefore creates the people. Vice versa is also true.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 6 points 3 months ago +6 / -0

Tbf, I'd also argue fucking your cousin for many generations probably did not do the Indians well.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 3 months ago +2 / -0

Indeed that's part of their system too lol

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– Gizortnik -10 points 3 months ago +2 / -12

They had nothing against most races

They saw Africans and Indians were effectively animals and Slavs were inferior as well. Hitler literally points out in the speech TIK is going over that Socialism is a concept that only Ayran descendants are capable of understanding. This falls in line with the rest of Nazi ideology that the Aryans were the only race capable of forming nations in the first place.

To be very clear I'm not saying Hitler isn't evil, or that he is absolved of anything, just that he didn't convince the most educated country in the world to vote for him by being evil

Not really. Wokeness is quite similar to National Socialism (most of the Race Communist factions are literally identical), and none of their ideas are sophisticated to most people, including intellectuals. It's mostly a religious faith, and the opportunity to make a lot of money, or have a lot of power. There is some core sophistication at the highest levels of the ideologies intellectual thought leaders. But that doesn't tend to trickle down, even if it is the reason why things are being done.

Most of the intellectuals were part of the middle-managerial elite and got near limitless power and influence under Fascism and National Socialism; which is what got their loyalty. Arguments that the Germanic peoples were the nearest blood (not genetic, literal blood) descendants of a hyperborean race known as Aryans who were effectively 12 foot tall frost giants that roamed the land and founded Atlantis is... fucking insane. It's why plenty of Nazis just didn't talk about those parts much, because it's too fucking crazy to say in polite society.

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– horstshort 6 points 3 months ago +6 / -0

They saw Africans and Indians were effectively animals and Slavs were inferior as well.

How about you produce a source for that statement?

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– Gizortnik -2 points 3 months ago +1 / -3

Read their literal fucking documents on race policy. Read Hitler. Read Himler. Read Hans F. K. Gunther. How are all the Nazi supporters completely ignorant about Nazi policy literally all the time? Why do I have to explain to you the shit you should already believe by being a National Socialist. And don't give me an excuse about 'meh meh I'm a white nationalist'. You're not, your tolerance to child rape in England, and the support of the Palestinian movement proves you don't give a shit about Whites.

National Socialist Ideology sees Slavs as inferior sub-species because they were the polluted-blood descendants of Aryans, hence their degenerate behaviors, their untrustworthiness, and their lack of forming nations outside of judeo-bolshevism organizing. Germans were of the "Northern Race", which were the closest, least-polluted-blood descendants of the Aryan hyperborean race; which is why they were superior. Africans are not even descendants of the Aryan hyperboreans, meaning that they are entirely outside of the whole Aryan-blood descendency lineage, nor do they even have ancestry with any of the earlier pre-cursor races prior to the Aryans. Hence, the source of African blood is evolved from the soil, and possibly from animals. Therefore, they are barely even "human" in the way that we would understand it. Giving them weapons isn't really any different from the German Army using horses or guard dogs.

Slavs, by definition, are a kind of corrupted-blood race. One of the big conflicts within internal Nazi race politics was the use of Slavs in SS units specifically because of their corrupted blood. Hitler, and many others, were against using them at all in the SS because they wanted the SS units to be as Aryan as possible. Himler argued that, by virtue of seeing some Slav units were capable of good combat, it meant that there was Aryan-ness, or even Aryan-blood that may have been injected into the Slavic sub-species from events like the Tutonic crusades. Hence, the most Aryan-blooded Slavs could and should be recruited because some of the Aryan blood within this sub-species could be saved.

I'm not asking you to read some communist historical account. I'm asking you to read the primary source material.

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– horstshort 4 points 3 months ago +4 / -0

Read their literal fucking documents on race policy.

Yeah that's why I'm asking for a source.

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– gomera 1 point 3 months ago +1 / -0

Most of us Nat Soc supporters are well aware of this.

It also makes perfect sense.

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– Telia [S] 5 points 3 months ago +5 / -0

and Slavs were inferior as well

Well Slavs didn't seem to have gotten the memo apparently.

" Secret archive reveals how Russia showed huge support for 'Christian crusader' Nazi invaders who had come to fight 'godless communists' https://archive.md/t0f7z

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– Gizortnik -4 points 3 months ago +1 / -5

Another Deflection attempt again. Anti-Communist forces working with National Socialist forces isn't an indication of National Socialists not seeing Slavs as inferior. They did. It's the same reason the Azov Battalion sees Russians as as "Orientaloid Horde". The Germans saw Ukrainians, Poles, Russians, Italians, and Japanese all as inferior races. You're making excuses because National Socialism doesn't mesh with the White Nationalist aesthetic you're pretending to have.

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