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Vulture: 'The Dark Secrets Behind Neil Gaiman Abuse Allegations' (archive.is)
posted 1 year ago by LastRights 1 year ago by LastRights +19 / -0
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– ActiveLurker 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

I used to love Gaiman but that changed during his Palmer arc when he became a raging faggot leftoid. It doesn't surprise me that he's a creepy sex criminal at all, both based on his work and how vociferous he proclaims his progressive faith.

All this being said, however, I don't give a shit about this anymore. You are a grown ass woman and you can say no to creepy sex perverts. You engaged in lewd, perverse acts with a sleazy jew in front of his son with your own consent. Gaiman didn't kidnap you and keep you tied down. I'm sick and tired of women not taking any responsibility for anything they get themselves involved in and we only hear every day how strong and capable they are. This reminds me of Louis CK -- another disgusting, sleazy jew -- using women for his own ends. They always had the option to fucking walk away.

On another note, I also don't believe any of this story and it reads like someone contriving the most disgusting shit possible to character assassinate the person they're attacking. It reads like the Harvey Weinstein (another sleazy jew assauting women) stories of his disgusing, mutilated genitalia. Is Gaiman capable of all this? Absolutely and large swathes of it are assuredly accurate, but at this point my "believe all women" reflex is as dead as a cripple's knee.

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– Kienan 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

You are a grown ass woman and you can say no to creepy sex perverts.

"He raped me for the seven hundredth time! I was completely shocked!" - All the women in these types of stories.

Now, I know, abuse or abusive relationships can do strange things to people but, at some point...as you said, they're adults. Leave if you're not comfortable with it. And you certainly don't get to be shocked. Disturbed, annoyed, hurt, degraded, sure. Shocked? Nope. You keep going back.

She tried to signal to him with her eyes that he should stop.

I mean...come on.

Also, if these allegations are even half true, Gaiman is a massive creep of fucking epic proportions. The women still engaged consensually, and kept going back. Then want to cash out down the line. They stayed with him for the money, probably, and then will want money now that they're saying he was abusive.

Basically, this is one of those stories where I despise everyone involved. Except the son who, again if the allegations are true, is a victim of massively bad parenting. But, yeah, everyone else here is a shit person.

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– MegoThor 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

they're adults.

I beg to differ. They may be of legal age, but they are most certainly not adults.

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– MargarineMongoose 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

The unpleasant truth that we're in the process of rediscovering is that they are never adults.

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– ModsAreAIDS 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

All this being said, however, I don't give a shit about this anymore.

Same, but in the case of leftists being accused, I am happy to hold them to their own standards by believing all women and supporting their shunning from society via cancelation. They would do nothing less for you or me after all.

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– MargarineMongoose 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I'm sick and tired of women not taking any responsibility for anything they get themselves involved in and we only hear every day how strong and capable they are.

Women will never take responsibility for their own actions and the consequences thereof. This is why it is important that society abstain from treating them like adults. Once you start treating them like adults your whole civilization collapses, it's just a really long domino chain.

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– deleted 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0
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– dagthegnome 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Most people in the industry were already aware that he was a twisted pervert with some very extreme fetishes. And they were all willing to ignore it or, in the case of these women, to go along with it because of the power and influence that he had in the industry.

It's no accident that these allegations have finally hit the mainstream now that the industry is collapsing and there's no more money to be made. I heard Clownfish yesterday say that making these claims after the MeToo ship has already sailed lends credibility to them. No. It's precisely because woke no longer has the power that it did, and people like Gaiman therefor can no longer use it as a weapon, that these allegations have finally hit the normie sphere.

I have no doubt that these women consented to these activities at the time and only started complaining about it when they didn't get the career boost that they wanted from Gaiman. And the reason that various outlets are only writing about it now is because they sensed weakness and now believe they can benefit from forcing Gaiman to give up his share of the increasingly meager profits that can be garnered from the mainstream comics industry.

This appears to be just another case of women retroactively withdrawing consent for things they consented to at the time because they didn't get what they wanted out of it and now they feel icky about it.

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– LastRights [S] 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

It got archived 36 times.

Two of the women, who have never spoken to each other, compared him to an anglerfish, the deep-sea predator that uses a bulb of bioluminescence to lure prey into its jaws. “Instead of a light,” one says, “he would dangle a floppy-haired, soft-spoken British guy.”

Warning: NSFW

The nights with Gaiman blurred together. There was the time she passed out from pain while Gaiman was having anal sex with her. He made her perform oral sex while his penis had urine on it. He ordered her to suck him off while he watched screeners for the first season of The Sandman. In one instance, he thrust his penis into Pavlovich’s mouth with such force that she vomited on him. Then he told her to eat the vomit off his lap and lick it up from the couch. A week or so into Pavlovich’s time with the family, their son began to address her as “slave” and ordered Pavlovich to call him “master.” Gaiman seemed to find it amusing. Sometimes he’d say to his child, in an affable tone, “Now, now, Scarlett’s not a slave. No, you mustn’t.” One day, Pavlovich came into the living room when Gaiman and the boy were on the couch watching the children’s show Odd Squad. She joined them, sitting down next to the child. Gaiman put his arm around them both, reached into Pavlovich’s shirt, and fondled her breasts. She says he didn’t make any effort to hide what he was doing from the boy. Another time, during the day, he requested oral sex in the middle of the kitchen while the boy was awake and somewhere in the house. “He would never shut a door,” she says.

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On February 19, 2022, Gaiman and his son spent the night at a hotel in Auckland, which they sometimes did for fun. Gaiman asked Pavlovich if she could come by and watch the child for an hour so he could get a massage. It was a small room — one double bed, a television, and a bathroom. When he returned, Gaiman and the boy ate dinner, takeout from a nearby delicatessen. Afterward, Gaiman wanted to watch a movie, but the child wanted to play with the iPad. The boy sat against the wall by the picture window overlooking the city, facing the bed. Pavlovich perched on the edge of the mattress; Gaiman got onto the bed and pulled her so she was on her back. He lifted the covers up over them. She tried to signal to him with her eyes that he should stop. She mouthed, “What the fuck are you doing?” She didn’t want the child to overhear what she was saying. Gaiman ignored her. He rolled her onto her side, took off his pants, pulled off her skirt, and began to have sex with her from behind while continuing to speak with his son. “‘You should really get off the iPad,’” she recalls him saying. Pavlovich, in a state of shock, buried her head in the pillow. After about five minutes, Gaiman got up and walked to the bathroom, half-naked. He urinated on his hand and then returned to Pavlovich, frozen on the bed, and told her to “lick it off.” He went back to the bathroom, naked from the waist down. “Before you leave,” he told Pavlovich, “you have to finish your job.” She went to the bathroom, and he pushed her to her knees. The door was open. (Gaiman’s representatives say these allegations are “false, not to mention, deplorable.”)

The whole screed is graphic. Another curious thing was that a 'marriage counselor' was revealing all sorts of private details. Everyone and their grandmother was revealing private information. And two women broke their NDA's.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Two of the women, who have never spoken to each other, compared him to an anglerfish, the deep-sea predator that uses a bulb of bioluminescence to lure prey into its jaws. “Instead of a light,” one says, “he would dangle a floppy-haired, soft-spoken British guy.”

Guessing neither of these women understand anglerfish work because their prey are desperate enough to take the literal bait being left out.

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– TheKidsAreAltRight 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

It got archived 36 times

4 more and it gets a coupon for a free DDOS attack.

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– blyat56 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The whole screed is graphic. Another curious thing was that a 'marriage counselor' was revealing all sorts of private details. Everyone and their grandmother was revealing private information. And two women broke their NDA's.

Nothing you ever say or do with a woman stays between the two of you. Never tell a woman anything you don't want the entire world to hear the second she has a mood swing.

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– Galean 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

A bit to graphic for me to read but does it mention if this was consensual or not? Seems more of a kinky relation between adults.

Now, Gaiman was on the "believe all women" train so meh, I'm having a hard time caring about it.

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