When war broke out in Ukraine, what did the women do?
They fled to Europe. To the welfare and the brothels and the dating apps. While their brothers and husbands and fathers and sons were conscripted at gunpoint and fed into the meat grinder.
The problem with female protagonists in fiction is that they destroy my suspension of disbelief simply by being female. Because when the going gets tough in real life, virtually all women revert to stereotypical female roles and behaviors in order to save themselves. So when Star Wars or Marvel or CDPR wants me to swallow some cocky girl boss as the hero, my rational brain says “this isn’t how women actually behave”.
When men say that they want attractive female protagonists, what they’re really saying is “I will tolerate a female protagonist if she is an idealized woman”. Because if the female hero isn’t idealized - if she’s just an annoying entitled cunt, same as virtually every real life woman - then why am I accepting any woman as the hero? They aren’t heroes in real life. Not in the same way as men. And that’s what is being depicted in this media.
I loved the part when Rand broke free from the aes sedai imprisoning him, completely crushing several of their connections to magic in the process. There were very few such satisfying events in the series. Reading all 14 of those books was probably the biggest waste of time I’ve ever committed.
I agree. To be fair, Witcher was never a truly "based" game series, the witches are Mary Sues and much stronger than Geralt. It was only a matter of time until they just kicked him out.
At least canonically sorcerey is a rare talent, and they're not exactly all powerful. They were mostly killed by regular humans when Radovick purged the Lodge.
When war broke out in Ukraine, what did the women do?
You sound like Imp, who at one point claimed that there were zero women left in all of Ukraine because they all left. Actually, judging from videos, the only ones out in public are women and men of ages not vulnerable to conscription.
Because when the going gets tough in real life, virtually all women revert to stereotypical female roles and behaviors in order to save themselves
Russian and Ukrainian women aren't exactly feminist harpies.
if she’s just an annoying entitled cunt, same as virtually every real life woman
TheImp doesn't own the nature of women, or being able to see it, to see the consequences of feminism, to see the differences between men and women. That's just reality.
TheImp takes it too far, and hates women so much that he blames them for every single problem under the sun, and hates them so much he wants humanity (probably only just White people, given he only seems to hate White nationalism) to die out, just to spite women. Granted, many problems are caused by women and feminism, but not all problems. TheImp is insane, but just because he's nuts doesn't mean every observation he holds is false.
If I had to speculate, I would wager a guess that Imp was the legitimate victim of some kind of abuse at the hands of a woman at a young age, and she likely faced zero consequences due to other women giving it a free pass.
That was my initial speculation as well. I asked him about it, a long time ago, but he deflected and insulted me (as per usual). Given how he's currently acting (a globalist shill advocating for the worst solutions within the MGTOW movement), he might be a legitimate shill. But, I'm not sure. There's evidence either way, and he certainly acts like he has a mental illness.
TheImp doesn't own the nature of women, or being able to see it, to see the consequences of feminism, to see the differences between men and women. That's just reality.
And that is a reasonable position. Which really isn't the same as the "women bad".
and hates them so much he wants humanity (probably only just White people, given he only seems to hate White nationalism) to die out
I'm not sure. He's never made that explicit that he wants humanity to die out. He just hates... people reproducing, because that somehow benefits women.
Oh, and I don't think he hates white people. He hates 'white nationalists' because he thinks that their attacks on Jews detract attention from what he views as the real enemy, women.
TheImp is insane, but just because he's nuts doesn't mean every observation he holds is false.
That is true enough, but at the same time, I can't think of any that wasn't.
I'm not sure. He's never made that explicit that he wants humanity to die out.
He told me, directly. It was in some random debate I had with him, either here or on c/funny, well over a year ago. It was back when I thought he could be reached, so I engaged him. I can't remember the specifics of the conversation (it was something about people not marrying and having kids, and his position was to make the problem worse), but when I told him his position would ultimately result in humanity dying out, he responded with glee and wanted it to happen, just to spite women. You can probably dig through my timeline if you want to find it. I'm not motivated enough to do it right now.
It was back when I thought he could be reached, so I engaged him.
The thing is, when he's not on his favorite subjects, he almost sounds sane and reasonable. I generally expect people who are crazy to be obviously unhinged, and he isn't. That is why I also believed that he could be reached. Now I just talk with him because I find him entertaining.
but when I told him his position would ultimately result in humanity dying out, he responded with glee and wanted it to happen, just to spite women. You can probably dig through my timeline if you want to find it. I'm not motivated enough to do it right now.
Oh, I believe you. I guess it's not exactly surprising, because it's the logical conclusion of what he advocates for - but I and many others have called him out on this, and he normally just refuses to address it.
That said, at the risk of also being nuts, looking at the present state of the world, I would mind human extinction less...
If real, probably some early release/leak thing. I'd be more dubious, if we hadn't seen so many of these ridiculous seeming things actually turn out to be real. Also, seems very accurate for Modern games. It could also be a fan mockup, but using real assets.
...and just like I suspected, the image there doesn't have the game's title, which is why the image for this thread has the little selection box highlighting the game logo: because it's a screenshot taken from some image editing software where they added the logo to the image.
So yeah, still an edited image although the baseline is from the company itself...assuming of course that the collection of images taken from a reddit thread is legit, which is of course subject to the exact same scrutiny I apply to the image for this thread.
So back to square one after all.
But hey, good on you for making the effort to hunt it down. Not even being facetious when I say that.
The fact that it's quite clearly from some photo editing software should trip some alarm bells for people that it might not be legitimate, doubly so in the age of rapidly advancing AI image generation. Everyone had a good yuck about how AI could never get hands right, but that's stopped being an issue for a while now. Why shouldn't I suspect some random unsourced image of being a fabrication? Or should I just uncritically accept all those images of Trump saving kittens from Haitian barbeques the same way I'm supposed to uncritically accept this image?
I swear there used to be a modicum of skepticism and critical analysis among the denizens who frequented KotakuInAction.
It really is so bad that she doesn't even look human.
She reminds me a bit of the goblin Styx. And there's something else she reminds me of, some other game orc/goblin/demon, that I can't quite put my finger on, but was immediately reminded of. But, yeah, she looks more like an orc or something than human, and she certainly doesn't look like Ciri.
They really cant' help themselves, can they? They turned her from a beloved character, an adorable badass, into an ugly orcish girlboss.
When war broke out in Ukraine, what did the women do?
They fled to Europe. To the welfare and the brothels and the dating apps. While their brothers and husbands and fathers and sons were conscripted at gunpoint and fed into the meat grinder.
The problem with female protagonists in fiction is that they destroy my suspension of disbelief simply by being female. Because when the going gets tough in real life, virtually all women revert to stereotypical female roles and behaviors in order to save themselves. So when Star Wars or Marvel or CDPR wants me to swallow some cocky girl boss as the hero, my rational brain says “this isn’t how women actually behave”.
When men say that they want attractive female protagonists, what they’re really saying is “I will tolerate a female protagonist if she is an idealized woman”. Because if the female hero isn’t idealized - if she’s just an annoying entitled cunt, same as virtually every real life woman - then why am I accepting any woman as the hero? They aren’t heroes in real life. Not in the same way as men. And that’s what is being depicted in this media.
I loved the part when Rand broke free from the aes sedai imprisoning him, completely crushing several of their connections to magic in the process. There were very few such satisfying events in the series. Reading all 14 of those books was probably the biggest waste of time I’ve ever committed.
I agree. To be fair, Witcher was never a truly "based" game series, the witches are Mary Sues and much stronger than Geralt. It was only a matter of time until they just kicked him out.
At least canonically sorcerey is a rare talent, and they're not exactly all powerful. They were mostly killed by regular humans when Radovick purged the Lodge.
You sound like Imp, who at one point claimed that there were zero women left in all of Ukraine because they all left. Actually, judging from videos, the only ones out in public are women and men of ages not vulnerable to conscription.
Russian and Ukrainian women aren't exactly feminist harpies.
That so?
He's nuts and so are his 'ideas', if you can call them that.
TheImp doesn't own the nature of women, or being able to see it, to see the consequences of feminism, to see the differences between men and women. That's just reality.
TheImp takes it too far, and hates women so much that he blames them for every single problem under the sun, and hates them so much he wants humanity (probably only just White people, given he only seems to hate White nationalism) to die out, just to spite women. Granted, many problems are caused by women and feminism, but not all problems. TheImp is insane, but just because he's nuts doesn't mean every observation he holds is false.
That was my initial speculation as well. I asked him about it, a long time ago, but he deflected and insulted me (as per usual). Given how he's currently acting (a globalist shill advocating for the worst solutions within the MGTOW movement), he might be a legitimate shill. But, I'm not sure. There's evidence either way, and he certainly acts like he has a mental illness.
And that is a reasonable position. Which really isn't the same as the "women bad".
I'm not sure. He's never made that explicit that he wants humanity to die out. He just hates... people reproducing, because that somehow benefits women.
Oh, and I don't think he hates white people. He hates 'white nationalists' because he thinks that their attacks on Jews detract attention from what he views as the real enemy, women.
That is true enough, but at the same time, I can't think of any that wasn't.
He told me, directly. It was in some random debate I had with him, either here or on c/funny, well over a year ago. It was back when I thought he could be reached, so I engaged him. I can't remember the specifics of the conversation (it was something about people not marrying and having kids, and his position was to make the problem worse), but when I told him his position would ultimately result in humanity dying out, he responded with glee and wanted it to happen, just to spite women. You can probably dig through my timeline if you want to find it. I'm not motivated enough to do it right now.
The thing is, when he's not on his favorite subjects, he almost sounds sane and reasonable. I generally expect people who are crazy to be obviously unhinged, and he isn't. That is why I also believed that he could be reached. Now I just talk with him because I find him entertaining.
Oh, I believe you. I guess it's not exactly surprising, because it's the logical conclusion of what he advocates for - but I and many others have called him out on this, and he normally just refuses to address it.
That said, at the risk of also being nuts, looking at the present state of the world, I would mind human extinction less...
Enjoy your girl bosses, homo.
Weren't you calling people stupid just a short while back? Better not show that previous incarnation of yourself this comment.
Oh no, did I do a homophobia?
You are very stupid.
No, you did a stupid. Glad to help.
“You did a stupid”
Gay millennial Reddit language.
I agree, gay millennial Reddit language.
You might want to check what that was responding to, Mr. Horror.
It's MA'AM!
You know how people pointed out how in the CG trailer Geralt looked off compared to promotion after and in the game itself.
This does not diminish concerns if she's STILL looking bad in promotional material..
Why are there boxes highlighting some of the text? This looks fake.
If real, probably some early release/leak thing. I'd be more dubious, if we hadn't seen so many of these ridiculous seeming things actually turn out to be real. Also, seems very accurate for Modern games. It could also be a fan mockup, but using real assets.
It's certainly on brand, though, since they definitely did a number on Ciri.
It appears to be real, a similar picture is on the official trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWMu6JeT2g8
This is a screenshot from some photo editing software until someone can show me where this exists other than some random imgur URL.
Stop taking things at face value so easily.
The image of Ciri is from the Witcher 4 press kit: https://www.reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/1hd8zxx/slides_from_the_witcher_4_press_kit/
...and just like I suspected, the image there doesn't have the game's title, which is why the image for this thread has the little selection box highlighting the game logo: because it's a screenshot taken from some image editing software where they added the logo to the image.
So yeah, still an edited image although the baseline is from the company itself...assuming of course that the collection of images taken from a reddit thread is legit, which is of course subject to the exact same scrutiny I apply to the image for this thread.
So back to square one after all.
But hey, good on you for making the effort to hunt it down. Not even being facetious when I say that.
Ah, you meant that it's not the character is fake, but that this is not actually the cover of the game.
Then you do have a valid point.
The fact that it's quite clearly from some photo editing software should trip some alarm bells for people that it might not be legitimate, doubly so in the age of rapidly advancing AI image generation. Everyone had a good yuck about how AI could never get hands right, but that's stopped being an issue for a while now. Why shouldn't I suspect some random unsourced image of being a fabrication? Or should I just uncritically accept all those images of Trump saving kittens from Haitian barbeques the same way I'm supposed to uncritically accept this image?
I swear there used to be a modicum of skepticism and critical analysis among the denizens who frequented KotakuInAction.
I never said you shouldn't.
That was a loooong time ago, unfortunately.
We saw the trailer with our own eyes. This is what she looks like. Why are you playing defense for Woker 4?
cope and seethe
I agree, but the Ciri is real, it's just not a promotional still/logo image. I'm thinking it might be a specific still in a trailer.
Fextralife used this same image in one of their headers, so it's definitely not some 'chuds trying to mock stunning and brave women' thing.
So, as portrayed it's not real (it's not a logo/splash art), but in another sense it is real.
It really is so bad that she doesn't even look human.
She reminds me a bit of the goblin Styx. And there's something else she reminds me of, some other game orc/goblin/demon, that I can't quite put my finger on, but was immediately reminded of. But, yeah, she looks more like an orc or something than human, and she certainly doesn't look like Ciri.
They really cant' help themselves, can they? They turned her from a beloved character, an adorable badass, into an ugly orcish girlboss.
She looks like the soldier that was Vasily Stalin's minder in The Death of Stalin.