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I've been playing Pathfinder WOTR with the wokeless mod and it turns out the game is good, not perfect but very much enjoyable to the point where I'm starting to think the devs are not really woke and it was just paizo that made demands on the amount of LGBT, race diversity and strong females.
I doubt any amount of mods can save this game, it's not just the trans stuff, it looks woke in every video and screen shots I've seen.
Can you tell me how to get that mod? I got the game as a gift and can’t get myself to play past the tutorial area without pressing Alt-F4 and uninstalling the game.
Edit : direct link is broken. Go to https://basedmods.eth.limo/ Then Browse, then Search ( bottom left ) ''Pathfinder''.
God bless Based Mods.
And yes, it removes the shitting-up of what many players wanted to be a White European medieval fantasy setting.
Now it is fixed.
I was skeptical if the game can be fixed, hence why I'm just now playing it. It turns out that the woke stuff is mostly shallow and once removed it does feel like an actual medieval fantasy rather then modern day California but with magic and swords.
You can find it on basedmods https://basedmods.eth.limo/
It removes all the gay and trans stuff and makes the paladin good looking. It does some other stuff as well.
As a disclosure, I did not take all the companions, there was this rich asimar that was a complete degenerate and this girl, that was suppose to be very smart but it made the initial dialogue seem like Loony toons and not a dark fantasy and If you are very observant there is some things that smell of wokenes but not really woke, but I'll not get in to details.
Regill and Lann are what makes the game interesting for me. Woljif is ok in principle but the writers did not know how to make him actually funny. The rest are boring.
Ember seemed interesting at first but her "insights" seem to be inspired by "I'm 14 and this is deep"
Gotta love Regis though.
Regill and yes he is an actual great character.
To be fair to the writing here, he isn't written to be anything but a complete piece of shit and nobody seems to really hold any illusions he is anything but "useful for our purposes due to his power, but otherwise a net negative on all existence." Granted I've not finished the game, so this might not be true for the full duration.
I think its important to have actually "evil" companions as a choice in these types of games, otherwise you end up with something like Dragon Age where everyone has a "Tragic backstory" that you can't judge and its a huge pity party of "pragmatism versus idealism" instead of any real moral diversity.
I won't give any defense to the other one though, that's a terrible character and I hated it from the moment I met it.
It is a boring character even on an evil playthrough. Did he have any other personality except rich degenerate?
I liked pathfinder kingmaker a lot, still working through it. Though it does have a whole "patriarchy can't handle stronk woman" storyline it is thankfully not a a large part of an overall really well done game.
The one bisexual character in the game is chaotic evil which is pretty appropriate and there is a dialogue option to threaten to punch him in the face after he hits on you if he does it again.
WOTR is on my backlog for after I finish kingmaker AND rogue trader (so probably not until 2030)
I couldn't get in to kingmaker at all. Maybe I'll give it a try again, I found most characters to be either uninteresting or straight up disliking them. I played with mercenaries for a while but got bored.
Also the feminism parts are just to much in your face.
WOTR is considerably worse in term of wokenes, one of the first characters you interact are an ugly black female paladin and a tranny that is in a lesbian relation but with the wokeless mode is considerably better then kingmaker. Outside of a few noticing on gender power dynamics it does feel like an actual medieval fantasy rather then modern day California with swords and sorcery.
I guess my liberalism calibration is set to the 90s so the feminism stuff doesn't bother me as much as long as it is "in character". It is true that one of the first companion characters you get lays it on thick but it is so on the nose that I just consider her a parody and it works perfectly.
I never played divinity original sin or really many other party rpgs after the 90s/early 2000s but this one feels like it most closely captures the feel of Baldur's Gate 2.
Feminism in the 90s was having some women fighters and it was not very outrageous. Like Mazzy or Jaheira having less strength then male fighters.
Here seemed very much forced, the barbarian chick tried so hard to be just a stereotypical barbarian that was just cringe. At the start you had to save people but every woman was saving herself already or how top leadership seemed to be largely women.
You can say WOTR also has some of this issues but maybe I've started tolerating them more.
Both are kind of racist as there is no white male companion in an European Medieval Fantasy section where they should be the majority of characters. This is just paizo being paizo.
I barely noticed any gay the first time. Stronk women are in there. Narratively, there is one prominent lesbian couple.
Not only they are lesbian Anevian is a tranny as well. Probably a lot more but wokeless took that out. But it does feel like it was a checkbox that Paizo asked them to check rather then ideologically driven on part of the devs.