When they tell everyone their explicit goals and our only response is to vote harder
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Enough.
You are either for Trump or Harris.
There is no third option.
None.
American elections are like Hong kong elections. You have several candidates, some are obviously better than others. But they are all controlled by CCP.
I'll trust our candidates more if they didn't all have jewish family members like how Trump has jewish in laws, and Harris married a jew
Even worse than individual candidates being controlled is how party leadership on both sides is controlled. So until one or both parties are either taken over or destroyed, we're going to have things happening like republican speaker of the house Paul Ryan blocking the wall that an overwhelming amount of voters wanted or John McCancer being reelected on a promise to repeal 0bamacare and then being the deciding vote keeping us from getting affordable insurance back.
And what makes all this sadder is that the majority of the country will still be stuck on the "picking the lesser evil" and "playing the political game" mentality. It's either "BuT soCiaLism" and our "GrEateSt AlLy" from the right or leftists screeching on about "faScisM" and "UkRaIne." Two sides of this same coin. Uniparty. One side promotes abortion while the other side remains silent so as to not lose votes, thus making that side complicit through cowardice. One side condoned the jab while the other (shocker) also condoned the jab, making both guilty of the countless that died because of it. They both support sexual degeneracy, just go over to TheDonald and see how they support Scott Presler and silence anyone who points out one shouldn't associate with degenerates. They both go on about foreign affairs (again either Ukraine or our greatest ally) instead of putting it in stone that our country will come first before anything else, and then proceed to silence anyone that points this issue out (looking at posts like this one for example: https://unscored.arete.network/c/TheDonald/p/1995LqvS4p/).
This has already been said before by many users but votes won't get us out of this situation when you consider that it isn't just the state of the government but also how immoral the country in general has become. We can go on about the uniparty working against our interests, but we must remember that half of the country actually believes in furthering degeneracy and the globohomo agenda. Have we really won when we had to appease the baby-killers, the sexual degenerates, and literally everyone else that is godless under the sun just to get elected? Consider also, as you noted, that all that effort and moral compromises would have been done just for everyone else in power (along with half of the brain-dead populace) making it a thing to sabotage any attempt to get things fixed.
Edit: Lol, this whole topic reminded me of this thread in c/christianity: https://communities.win/c/Christianity/p/199OB3TlKt/50-of-christians-dont-vote-if-we/c/4ZFBMwkFuHI.
One point was whether the 50% of christians that don't vote are lukewarm and cowardly for not voting for a candidate that they don't 100% agree with. But consider this: say someone like Trump doubled down on his stances and completely condemned abortion (instead of dismissing it as a state issue) and made it his thing to return to the nation to its biblically moral roots. He for sure would have gotten more, if not all, christians to vote for him. But he didn't, because he knew doing so would have lost him the votes of everyone else in the country (again bringing up that the real issue at hand is not a question of voting but rather our immoral and subverted country). Let me ask, who is really the lukewarm one here, the person that remains unwavering in his convictions and morals, or the person that will compromise his morals so as to get ahead in the political game? There's a reason a born-again christian, or even simply a moral person, can't get ahead in the political game without making moral compromises. The political game has always been rigged in favor of the morally corrupt; plus, there are other ways to make change in the world that don't revolve on one sacrificing his morals and appeasing the godless.
So... Shabbos Goys?
Got to play the game until you can make the winning move.
The game is rigged. The winning move is to stop playing it and forcing the truth to the surface. So unless Trump does a 180 after he gets elected he won't be a savior.
I totally understand if you don't want to endorse Trump, but you should use him as a temporary stop gap so that in 4 years time you'll be in a position to elect someone better. Otherwise Kamala gon dump migrants in swing states and your chances will be much lower, possibly zero.
"Just stay home, you can't win," says the enemy.
The winning move is to develop a parallel society. The empire is dead.
Hasn’t been true in 250 years.
You're very retarded and you should feel bad about it.
Being enslaved to our useless at best, irredeemably corrupt at worst, political system, is the only option. Absolutely nothing else should ever be considered, right?
voting is not slavery. you can participate in the electoral process without giving up any of your rights. you can do everything that you've planned to do while still taking the one hour takes to vote.
quit being so melodramatic.
You still have the two economists meeting at the polling place, saying "I won't tell if you won't."
You didn't watch the linked video, did you?
Nope
And there it is.
You won't even look at how mad he made our enemies.
Fuck you.
"Don't vote guys! Just do nothing instead!"
"We should vote for Harris because accelerationism!"
I swear all of these accelerationists and TDS posters have to be either feds, or retarded enough to not realize they're being used by feds. They should be treated the same as any other brigaders.
Lol because we don't throat orange Jesus you call us feds. I am fed up with the pandering. It's time for men to stand up for themselves and their local community.
The dollar is done. The empire is eating up the nation. The nation (people) will need to chart a new course but this game of arguing back and forth while fundamentally being replaced and financially gutted is tiresome.
I don't remember starting any argument with you. If you want to go found a new nation go ahead, but like I said in another comment, mocking people for voting is counterproductive.
Not once did i say don't vote. I'm saying relying on a political solution for an existential problem is stupid
If you have suggestions for solutions then go ahead and offer them. People can still vote while also enacting other solutions. But it's counterproductive to try to mock people for voting, and it suggests that you actually believe it would be better to have Harris elected than Trump. Would you prefer seeing Harris elected?
Can I get a higher quality version of that video somewhere? I don't know which one this is on his youtube channel.
I can't share this version because it's so pixelated.
Actually I've changed my opinion on this. I used to think nonvoting was stupid because it just allows your opponent to win. But if enough people don't vote, then in 4 years time — which is relatively short in the grand scale of things — the losing party will remember they lost the previous election due to nonvotes and be motivated to change their policies. I believe Jimmy Dore is doing this but not 100% sure.
That said, the Democrats would wreck America so inconceivably beyond repair if given another 4 years. As Musk says, it would be "the last election" because they'll just start dumping migrants into the battleground states and you'll never win those states ever again. So this election is special and I would say a vote for Trump is mandatory even if you hate him, if only to save America so that in 4 years time you'll at least have another shot. If you don't vote Trump, you might not have another shot in future.
Nonvoting is exactly stupid. The Sunnis in Iraq intentionally boycotted the first election to claim it was illegitimate and they spent 8 years in a full throated insurgency because they had intentionally removed all of their political options off the table. The loosing party was criminalized, and was replaced by Al-Qaeda in Iraq. That didn't help the Sunnis because AQI had no problem killing them just as much as they killed the government.
After the Sunni Great Awakening Movement efforts to get the Sunnis back into a political process, they won elections as a minority and rebuffed a bunch of dumb shit from the now fully pro-Iranian government.
Another election was held after several years of peace, but this time Fallujah and a lot of the Sunnis were upset that they gained seats, but lost a majority. There was definitely bullshit done by the government, possibly fraud, to guarantee that loss. But instead of repeated each mistake again. This time they worked with ISIS and got slaughtered again by the same people again because AQI actually formed ISIS.
Now they are back in the government and voting, but seem to have figured out that refusing to vote, and then shooting at people, isn't really an optimal strategy, especially when the people who are going to "help" you fight the government intend to kill you first.
It is correct that you should not be voting against certain people, but only voting for the things you want so you don't keep putting idiots (like the Tories in UK) into power. Refusing to vote at all is retarded and dangerous.
Iraq lol
Nah. We lost when the central bank and federal government was allowed to take the leading role in life over a century ago. It's just been a long slide until now.
Ok let's say it's only a small detail whether 🐪a or Trump wins. But the details matter! As the saying goes, the devil is in the details.