I understand many on the right having such strong feelings on abortion. I get it, I understand it, and I'm sympathetic to it.
But not one single one of them has been willing or able to answer the single question of what we're going to do when the negro population doubles in a generation. They just get mad and revert to ad hominems.
I'm willing to entertain a total ban on abortion if it comes with a realistic and practical plan to not have it entail doubling our criminal barbarian population. 13/60 is already beyond horrible enough. I don't want to live in a nation when it's 26/95.
Implying the negro population follows laws. If they live in a state that bans abortions, the local drug dealers will simply start stocking abortion pills and some enterprising chap with a coathanger will open an unlicensed clinic.
The exact same thing that's going to happen to them right now anyway. Them, and the mud slimes, pajeets, the various flavors of Mexican, and a fair few others.
Most of the survivors will be deported.
It'll have to happen anyway, and it's probably going to happen anyway, so it's not an excuse to justify the rampant child murder that has directly lead to the demographic collapse of the white population.
And the last excuse, that it's not politically popular. Who cares? It's not like democracy is valid, legitimate or functional. And it's certainly not like women will be allowed to vote in the society of the future either.
As much as it should happen, a national roundup and deportation of the county's brown scum is simply not realistic. We're not even allowed to identify the problem in public. The idea that at some point in the foreseeable future there's going to be enough people on board with forcibly sending them all back is a pipe dream. We'll be lucky if we can even work up the stones to deport even 20% of just the illegals. Like it or not, the 40 million negros we have are citizens and have been for a century and a half. They should be returned to Africa, but if they couldn't even pull it off after the civil war, we're sure as shit not going to do it now. We need a solution that can actually be put into real life practice, not just wishful thinking. I'm not willing to ban them deleting themselves before they become little criminals in training until such a real solution is presented.
Let's see if we can get something like irreversible sterilization in return for public gibs programs put into effect and then we can see about an abortion ban
Because there isn't a scenario where we don't have a civil war.
A great many things that are politically unviable now, become not only possible but probable, in such a future.
I would add that you're also discounting the prospect of acceleration. Had child murder not been legalized in the sixties, the American population would have had to address the elephant in the room long ago.
Excellent idea, but I don't think nigloids will go for it. They love fucking just as much as they love doing drugs and stealing. That's WHY they abort so much.
I suppose as long as you don't give them time to think about it and just snip them post haste, it won't hurt.
He doesn't give a shit about abortion. If he did, he'd have to admit that his abortion ban would be made unconstitutional by the same decision that banned Roe v. Wade, which he would respond with a constitutional amendment to overturn that very decision, which welcomes abortion back in.
It also feeds into the normie "the left goes too far one way, then the right goes too far the other" sentiment which has basically killed all of the anti-abortion efforts in every state so far.
Ohio is an abortion on demand state because of that sentiment. 9 Month abortions are legal if any doctor claims a woman may be "harmed" by a pregnancy.
He's built up a complicated hypothetical.
Supposedly a law made to ban abortion would be found unconstitutional because of the same Supreme Court ruling that overturned Roe v Wade.
The proposal then is to amend the constitution to allow the abortion ban.
He's suggesting that the proposed amendment would overturn that ruling that originally overturned Roe v Wade, apparently making abortion legal again.
Which is ridiculous, because if there's enough political support to ratify a law saying the federal government can make laws about abortion, with the clear intent of passing a ban right after, then they could simply ratify an amendment banning it. Or maybe he doesn't understand that the SC ruled that the federal government doesn't have jurisdiction over abortion?
That's just a ban with more steps and additional stupid risks. If they could do that, they could simply ratify an amendment banning it and avoid the risk.
And since it is always brought up as an example (including by Trump himself) let me tell you what happened here in Kansas.
A large amount of the state wanted to move it back from the current 24 week limit to closer to 14-16 weeks. Because despite what a lot of people think we are actually fairly reasonable around here and the Evangelical types dont actually hold as much power statewide as you would think. Legislation doing exactly that move was drawn up, but then the handful of Evangelicals that do have power used it to gradually turn it into an attempt to completely ban the practice in the state.
This then went up to a vote, and in the same election where we kept a fairly conservative State House with a veto-proof majority over the governor, and elected conservatives to every executive position except governor, the law regarding abortion flopped hard with 60-40 split. Driven largely on people like me and my family voting it down despite voting Republican for everything else. If they had just been more reasonable, they probably would have gotten what they wanted.
Which is why even as much as I listen to Ben Shapiro, him dinging Vance for "dodging the issue" at the debate is another example of Ben not seeming to realize the situation has changed (along with his "100% free trade, no tariffs ever" stance). Sorry Ben, you and other hardcore Pro-Lifers can be pissed all you want, but you have lost on the issue, and you need to fix a hell of a lot more about the culture before you can even think about banning it.
Considering most of these establishment Republicans are busy fucking kids, or killing them elsewhere, I'm confident this has nothing to do with getting abortion banned because they're strong moralists, but because they want Trump and Republicans to lose, and enshrine abortion state-wide.
I like 100% Free Trade too! But it ain't Free Trade is the government is heavily involved on one side. Ben Shapiro is trying to win a Culture War he already lost 10 years ago, with a Corporatist alliance that are now diametrically opposed to the people of the US.
Sometimes when it comes to the genuine moral conservatives, they grew up in an echo-chamber and fail to understand how broken and degenerate society actually is. It's like when Michael Knowles was on the Whatever Podcast and was shocked that the OnlyFans thots across from him had slept with (at least) 30 people by the time they were 25.
They think they can impose morality on a population that's already beyond degenerate. 50% of the population is anti-moral. You can't impose morality on that.
Demand for abortion would organically decrease if slut-shaming became more acceptable and the government stopped paying chicks to get rawdogged and then ditched by Chad.
A total ban would have to go hand-in-hand with eliminating all the gibs. The only reason the destitute keep popping out children is because the government gives them money for doing so.
If you look into the Gosnell abortion mill incident that happened a number of years ago, there was a theory/rumor that the Feds were paying single mothers up to a certain amount of children, and then after that they would get nothing extra. So some of these women were going to abortion mills because not only they couldn't keep their legs closed and were absolute morons, they had just enough sense to know that no additional gibs would be doled out.
The Left are trying to keep a certain population size of them so they continue to be a problem for the rest of America, but they don't want the problem to cause a descent into chaos.
Perhaps. But I'm skeptical of the implication that negros possess the wisdom to close their legs and stop popping out thieves if the gibs stop. I suspect they'll keep breeding and just complain and steal more. Getting rid of gibs is wise, but they have to be kept from breeding like Krogan. If letting them delete themselves is off the table, fine. But another direct and imposed population control measure must take its place.
I understand many on the right having such strong feelings on abortion. I get it, I understand it, and I'm sympathetic to it.
But not one single one of them has been willing or able to answer the single question of what we're going to do when the negro population doubles in a generation. They just get mad and revert to ad hominems.
I'm willing to entertain a total ban on abortion if it comes with a realistic and practical plan to not have it entail doubling our criminal barbarian population. 13/60 is already beyond horrible enough. I don't want to live in a nation when it's 26/95.
Implying the negro population follows laws. If they live in a state that bans abortions, the local drug dealers will simply start stocking abortion pills and some enterprising chap with a coathanger will open an unlicensed clinic.
I've said it repeatedly.
The exact same thing that's going to happen to them right now anyway. Them, and the mud slimes, pajeets, the various flavors of Mexican, and a fair few others.
Most of the survivors will be deported.
It'll have to happen anyway, and it's probably going to happen anyway, so it's not an excuse to justify the rampant child murder that has directly lead to the demographic collapse of the white population.
And the last excuse, that it's not politically popular. Who cares? It's not like democracy is valid, legitimate or functional. And it's certainly not like women will be allowed to vote in the society of the future either.
As much as it should happen, a national roundup and deportation of the county's brown scum is simply not realistic. We're not even allowed to identify the problem in public. The idea that at some point in the foreseeable future there's going to be enough people on board with forcibly sending them all back is a pipe dream. We'll be lucky if we can even work up the stones to deport even 20% of just the illegals. Like it or not, the 40 million negros we have are citizens and have been for a century and a half. They should be returned to Africa, but if they couldn't even pull it off after the civil war, we're sure as shit not going to do it now. We need a solution that can actually be put into real life practice, not just wishful thinking. I'm not willing to ban them deleting themselves before they become little criminals in training until such a real solution is presented.
Let's see if we can get something like irreversible sterilization in return for public gibs programs put into effect and then we can see about an abortion ban
Sure it's realistic.
Because there isn't a scenario where we don't have a civil war.
A great many things that are politically unviable now, become not only possible but probable, in such a future.
I would add that you're also discounting the prospect of acceleration. Had child murder not been legalized in the sixties, the American population would have had to address the elephant in the room long ago.
I think you just came up with a better answer than the other guy.
Excellent idea, but I don't think nigloids will go for it. They love fucking just as much as they love doing drugs and stealing. That's WHY they abort so much.
I suppose as long as you don't give them time to think about it and just snip them post haste, it won't hurt.
He doesn't give a shit about abortion. If he did, he'd have to admit that his abortion ban would be made unconstitutional by the same decision that banned Roe v. Wade, which he would respond with a constitutional amendment to overturn that very decision, which welcomes abortion back in.
It also feeds into the normie "the left goes too far one way, then the right goes too far the other" sentiment which has basically killed all of the anti-abortion efforts in every state so far.
Ohio is an abortion on demand state because of that sentiment. 9 Month abortions are legal if any doctor claims a woman may be "harmed" by a pregnancy.
How would a constitutional amendment banning abortion welcome abortion back in?
He's built up a complicated hypothetical.
Supposedly a law made to ban abortion would be found unconstitutional because of the same Supreme Court ruling that overturned Roe v Wade.
The proposal then is to amend the constitution to allow the abortion ban.
He's suggesting that the proposed amendment would overturn that ruling that originally overturned Roe v Wade, apparently making abortion legal again.
Which is ridiculous, because if there's enough political support to ratify a law saying the federal government can make laws about abortion, with the clear intent of passing a ban right after, then they could simply ratify an amendment banning it. Or maybe he doesn't understand that the SC ruled that the federal government doesn't have jurisdiction over abortion?
Because it wouldn't be a constitutional ban on abortion. It would be a constitutional amendment to regulate abortion at the federal level.
That's just a ban with more steps and additional stupid risks. If they could do that, they could simply ratify an amendment banning it and avoid the risk.
And since it is always brought up as an example (including by Trump himself) let me tell you what happened here in Kansas.
A large amount of the state wanted to move it back from the current 24 week limit to closer to 14-16 weeks. Because despite what a lot of people think we are actually fairly reasonable around here and the Evangelical types dont actually hold as much power statewide as you would think. Legislation doing exactly that move was drawn up, but then the handful of Evangelicals that do have power used it to gradually turn it into an attempt to completely ban the practice in the state.
This then went up to a vote, and in the same election where we kept a fairly conservative State House with a veto-proof majority over the governor, and elected conservatives to every executive position except governor, the law regarding abortion flopped hard with 60-40 split. Driven largely on people like me and my family voting it down despite voting Republican for everything else. If they had just been more reasonable, they probably would have gotten what they wanted.
Which is why even as much as I listen to Ben Shapiro, him dinging Vance for "dodging the issue" at the debate is another example of Ben not seeming to realize the situation has changed (along with his "100% free trade, no tariffs ever" stance). Sorry Ben, you and other hardcore Pro-Lifers can be pissed all you want, but you have lost on the issue, and you need to fix a hell of a lot more about the culture before you can even think about banning it.
Considering most of these establishment Republicans are busy fucking kids, or killing them elsewhere, I'm confident this has nothing to do with getting abortion banned because they're strong moralists, but because they want Trump and Republicans to lose, and enshrine abortion state-wide.
I like 100% Free Trade too! But it ain't Free Trade is the government is heavily involved on one side. Ben Shapiro is trying to win a Culture War he already lost 10 years ago, with a Corporatist alliance that are now diametrically opposed to the people of the US.
Sometimes when it comes to the genuine moral conservatives, they grew up in an echo-chamber and fail to understand how broken and degenerate society actually is. It's like when Michael Knowles was on the Whatever Podcast and was shocked that the OnlyFans thots across from him had slept with (at least) 30 people by the time they were 25.
They think they can impose morality on a population that's already beyond degenerate. 50% of the population is anti-moral. You can't impose morality on that.
Demand for abortion would organically decrease if slut-shaming became more acceptable and the government stopped paying chicks to get rawdogged and then ditched by Chad.
A total ban would have to go hand-in-hand with eliminating all the gibs. The only reason the destitute keep popping out children is because the government gives them money for doing so.
If you look into the Gosnell abortion mill incident that happened a number of years ago, there was a theory/rumor that the Feds were paying single mothers up to a certain amount of children, and then after that they would get nothing extra. So some of these women were going to abortion mills because not only they couldn't keep their legs closed and were absolute morons, they had just enough sense to know that no additional gibs would be doled out.
The Left are trying to keep a certain population size of them so they continue to be a problem for the rest of America, but they don't want the problem to cause a descent into chaos.
Perhaps. But I'm skeptical of the implication that negros possess the wisdom to close their legs and stop popping out thieves if the gibs stop. I suspect they'll keep breeding and just complain and steal more. Getting rid of gibs is wise, but they have to be kept from breeding like Krogan. If letting them delete themselves is off the table, fine. But another direct and imposed population control measure must take its place.