I believe this just came out a couple of days ago. Much though I’m not a fan of Disney, or indeed the “live action” (in this case, that’s a lol in itself) remakes, at least this is an original story, even if it completely retcons the entire Lion King plot, lol…
I won’t spoil it, but, umm, I would say it is to The (original) Lion King what Wicked is to The Wizard of Oz. Very much the same concept. And doesn’t really make sense, if we’re taking the story from the original as being the (fictional) truth.
Anyway, it also features tribes of lions differentiated by fur colour (lol), quite a lot of the biblical story of Moses, and lions climbing snowy mountains (in Southern Africa??), so… Yeah.
Looks relatively okay though, all things considered. But I would be interested in hearing the thoughts of others on it.
Why is anyone giving Disney the time of day? They hate you, they hate their classics, they have no interest in telling good stories. Do not watch them.
We won't, but what about your liberal relatives that do?
It's good to stay aware of their propaganda bud.
They have the rights to bluey, but they censor the US release. I have to acquire the Australian versions.
There is good media out there, new and old. You have to search for it though. (And none of it is Disney.)
This is also a reminder that, whatever Disney does with this, the soundtrack to the original, by Zimmer and co, is just fucking awesome. As is most of the stage show version that I have seen.
Listening to it now. Some of his best work, imho. Though I refuse to listen to the new, woke, “live action” movie soundtrack, lol.
Hans Zimmer's best work?
That's a mighty tall order.
How does one comparatively judge BWAAAAAH?
Better yet, how does one comparatively judge the auditory manifestation of a heart palpitations from stress?
Nah, just *one of.
Not even in my personal top 5, but it’s still pretty great, lol.
Gladiator is probably my favorite, along with Pirates of the Caribbean
Gladiator is (like the Lion King) mostly not his work, though he does deserve credit for it. Same with Pirates, of which the most well-known bits were composed by other people.
So I do agree that they are great, but all three of these were collabs that he has mostly taken all the credit for, lol…
Aside from the lions, animated hyper-realism looks awful for characters meant to appeal to children.
Taka = Scar :')
Ran that through google translate, just for funsies.
Taka is Swahili for "garbage" ...
Hahaha that’s brilliant. Not sure if it’s intentional (Lion King 1 was mostly in Zulu, after all), but nonetheless.
Doing God’s work, there.
Wait...lemme guess...Mufasa is oppressive and a bigot; and Scar is just a misunderstood, oppressed minority?
Nah, I didn't really get that vibe from the trailer (we mostly just see them as cubs and as juveniles/teenagers, though) - more like, "Mufasa was the usurper all along, and the throne was rightfully Taka/Scar's to take!"
Which is an odd flex for them to go with, but anyway.
They also made them unrelated by blood (which contradicts canon), and made them look... Pretty much the same. Which I suppose makes sense (i.e. lions in real life don't look like Scar in the animated film), but just makes the whole thing a bit... Off.
As I said, this seems like what "Wicked" is to the "Wizard of Oz", or as "Maleficent" is to "Sleeping Beauty" - a spinoff that largely contradicts the original story, and uses the same characters, but with entirely different characteristics, motivations, etc...
It sounds like they're doing the classic "maybe Scar wasn't such a bad guy after all" thing, which tons of fucking leftists do when they re-write the canon/lore of established franchises.
They did this with Acolyte, and they do this with tons of shit where there's a race-swapped or sex-swapped character. That particular character ends up acting like a total faggot but we are expected to sympathize with them because they're an imaginary grievance group and because of that it's perfectly ok for the character to be a giant piece of shit to the rest of the characters in the entertainment media.
Sympathetic Satan
There are snowy mountains in Africa at certain times of the year. Obviously a lion isn't going to go with there, but eh.
It depends on how the fur color is distinguished. Children actually need pretty aggressive signaling to tell the difference between characters. You'll notice in Lion King 2, the bad female lionesses are given a gray hue to make it clear which ones are on which side, along with dysgenic features making them the bad guys.
Running the story of Exodus might make some kinda sense, but most of it is Moses absolutely bitching out the rest of his jews for being petty retards. Generally, I don't think that's a good precursor to a story that is based off of Hamlet. Frankly, I think it would make more sense for it to run like Othello or something.
Kilimanjaro does rise like Olympus above the Serengeti.
I'm frightened of this thing that you've become
Allow me to introduce you to the greatest version of that song.
You're welcome.
It's awful close...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ301QEoo9Y&t=35
The Lion King (og) also strongly resembles the Ramayana, the story of Rama from Hindu lore.
Rama is a prince whose jealous uncle murders his dad, the King, and takes over, banishing Rama (though in this story, the girlfriend opts to be exiled with him, which becomes a plot point); after some filler adventure, the girlfriend is kidnapped by the Demon King, and Rama stumbles onto the og Monkey King, Hanuman and his people (Timon and Pumbaa). The monkeys agree to help Rama get his girlfriend back, and then they all go reclaim Rama's kingdom.
And because Rama was an avatar of Vishnu, Hanuman was rewarded by being Ascended into godhood.
But hey, backstabbing royalty/"elites" have been pretty much the norm throughout human history. It's only recently they started backstabbing the commoners more than each other, it seems ...
MacBeth has less magic as a retelling?!
Well, the version of the Ramayana I read was a "down to earth" retelling of it that replaced the monkeys with a bunch of hermits, but the gist of it was there ...
Read a similar version of Gilgamesh, in which Innana was simply a spiteful priestess, and the bull belonged to the temple, etc.
I think one or the other of them was written by one of the "cyberpunk" guys.
Library books, 30 or 40 years ago.
Never actually took Hamlet, or MacBeth. Wound up getting "Romeo and Juliet" three fucking times, though.
The interesting part about Hamlet and MacBeth is that it's the same story from a different perspective. They both have otherworldly experiences and seem to be led by fate. By the end they both die, and a new king found. The crux is over who killed the king.
It's been so long since I've played the original games I don't remember the story, but at least the movie Prince of Persia is also this same story, in many ways. Except the Prince is an adopted orphan, with no actual royal blood.
Honestly, while it's not a perfect movie, I do enjoy it, and it's probably one of my favorite video game movies. I should watch it again, and think Lion King/Rama/MacBeth/etc. as I watch, and see how it fits.
I think the weird trend is to hate your own subjects more than any enemy. I don't feel like that's normal in history.
Oh, I know there’s snow in some mountains down there - specifically the Drakenburg, which I used as a convo starter with a Saff’s girl once, lol. And I guess Lesotho might get snow, too.
But as I recall that’s fairly irregular, vs this trailer which looked like the ducking avalanche scene from Mulan, or something, lol…
I don’t think anywhere in Africa ever gets that much snow, even Morocco or Kili.
But then again this is a movie about talking lions, so… Yeah.
I think Scar also has an American accent in this, so they clearly don’t give a shit about continuity or logic at this point…
I don't actually know what accent Jeremy Iorns has besides 'sophisticated'.
I think he’s English, but yeah, it’s usually like… Washed-up posh guy who’s barely even trying, lol.
Then again, I haven’t seen him in anything much since Eragon, if you remember that abomination…
I loved that book, and have even met the author, so going into it I was like, “Wait what? What is this?”
He really phoned that one in, lol.
I actually liked Eragon. Luckily, I never read the book, so I couldn't be disappointed in that difference. I was just like: "huh, dragons" went to go see the movie.
Considering that Walt was a bit sympathetic to Hitler, and that Scar was essentially lion Hitler... Disney seems to be getting back to their roots by making him out to be sympathetic lol
I haven't looked into it too much, but I've heard that is a bit of a myth, based on a smear. Walt was staunchly anti-commie (so perhaps he was sympathetic to Hitler at the time, it's possible...but it wasn't the issue.) Because he was anti-commie, the communists in Hollywood set out to ruin him, including lying about his character. Heck, he may have been one of the earliest "literally Hitlers."
EDIT: Come to think of it, it's actually quite similar to the Trump story; successful businessman, generally beloved by the public but, as soon as he voices opinions against the current zeitgeist or regime, and talks about protecting the country...he suddenly always hated everyone. So I wouldn't be surprised if Walt hated Jews and blacks and women in the same way Trump hates Mexicans and gays and women, and such...i.e. not at all. It's just generic Bad Guy signaling.
Honestly, watching the trailer, I really can’t square how this story follows into the Lion King, lol. Though apparently it is only canon for the “live action” version, not the original animated one, so… Eh.
But yeah, making Scar the hero of this prequel (and seemingly the rightful heir to the throne) is… An odd choice, to say the least.
Your explanation is as good as any I can give, lol.
No, I don't consume goyslop. Not even the trailers