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Japanese newspapers now pushing the notion that japan is now an immigrant nation (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by evilplushie 1 year ago by evilplushie +74 / -0
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– lapalapa -22 points 1 year ago +2 / -24

To play devil's advocate, since everyone here ignores the issue when complaining, depopulation is a giant crisis that needs some form of address. Simply telling the japanese (and europeans, for that matter) to have more babies hasn't worked for decades. Pensions and healthcare becoming insolvent isn't tolerable. Something has to be done.

Immigration is one solution. I don't know how feasible it would be to lower childcare costs through subsidies. It's hard to think up alternatives.

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– Sneak_King 28 points 1 year ago +28 / -0

Heaven forbid deflation set in, demand for jobs of all skill levels increase along with wages, and growth as an end to itself come to an end.

No institutions prepared for this, despite knowing it would happen eighty years in advance. I guess we have to put our nations in a garbage disposal, it's the only solution.

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– lapalapa -8 points 1 year ago +1 / -9

Pensions?

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– Assassin47 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

The immigrants will want pensions too...

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Are a retarded pyramid scheme that isn't sustainable which is why every organization that doesn't have the ability to print currency has stopped giving them out.

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThunk 25 points 1 year ago +26 / -1

Immigration is one solution.

No, it isn't. Not unless your goal is turning these countries into the same kind of third world shit-holes the replacements are being shipped in from. Getting rid of bullshit like feminism and returning to the roles that allowed civilized society to thrive is the real solution. It's also something the ones pushing replacement migration will never consider.

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– lapalapa -4 points 1 year ago +2 / -6

You're completely right, but people aren't going to become more Christian anytime soon. So that solution isn't really an option.

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– deleted 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0
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– BeefyBelisarius 20 points 1 year ago +21 / -1

depopulation is a giant crisis

Only to those trying to keep government handout ponzi schemes like social security going and to the central bank scammers who profit from a constantly rising GDP number no matter what it costs the people of the Western economic zones being looted. And it's a manufactured crisis created to justify replacement migration anyway.

For the average indigenous Europeans living in the West, it would be best to just let the population contract. But that would lower the supply of labor and drive up wages, which is unacceptable.

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– lapalapa -7 points 1 year ago +1 / -8

You ignored my mentions of pensions and healthcare. You can't just tell a generation to go fuck themselves after they worked their entire lives on certain promises. It'd be chaos.

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– BeefyBelisarius 10 points 1 year ago +11 / -1

You ignored my mentions of pensions and healthcare.

No, i mentioned the government handout ponzi schemes.

You can't just tell a generation to go fuck themselves after they worked their entire lives on certain promises.

The fact that you were victimized by a scam does not justify forcing more people into the scam in hopes of keeping the gibs coming until you die.

It'd be chaos.

Yes, when the scam inevitably ends, it will be chaos. Especially if it ends due to the economy collapsing due to unsustainable spending. But I'm sure you only care about collecting your gibs.

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– DistilledLife 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

No, i mentioned the government handout ponzi schemes.

like social security

Unless you're self-employed or a contractor, your employer already withholds the SS and Medicare/aid taxes from your paycheck. By current Federal law and by threat of fine or jailtime, any member of the populace with an income are forced to pay into it. It needs to be grandfathered out and abolished, but good fucking luck getting politicians and a large chuck of the sheep to go along with it.

The fact that you were victimized by a scam...

In the sense of a 401K/Roth IRA, then yes, you're right because people can make the choice of getting scammed. In the other cases, you're telling people to get fucked because the government stole their money. 2edgy4me bruh

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– lapalapa 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The fact that you were victimized
you only care about collecting your gibs.

You assume too much

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– dylan 8 points 1 year ago +9 / -1

Vote to run up the credit card debt to the detriment of your children and their children’s children

Don't have more kids so this becomes an issue

Think bringing in unskilled, barely literate hordes from the 3rd world will not cause a bigger drain on the tax base

You’re not gonna make it.

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– lapalapa -4 points 1 year ago +1 / -5

You're not bringing up solutions.

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– realerfunction 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

someone's going to be left holding the bag, because this entire system is unsustainable and built on theft.

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– deleted 2 points 1 year ago +3 / -1
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– ModsAreAIDS 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Something has to be done.

That something should be reforming pensions and healthcare. Pyramid schemes don't suddenly become workable just because it is the government running them. They will always collapse eventually.

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– lapalapa 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

reforming pensions and healthcare.

I mean, okay, but the money to pay them has to come from somewhere.

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– ModsAreAIDS 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Yeah. From the people who are covered by them. Importing more people to prop up the scam is putting a bandaid on a chainsaw wound, at best. Socialism always runs out of other peoples' money eventually. The hard truth that reality is going to teach us all is that if you don't pay in, you don't get to be paid out.

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– lapalapa -1 points 1 year ago +1 / -2

I'm talking about today's workers who are paying into the system who will retire in 20-30 years. Where will their pensions come from, if not for immigration?

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– HallucinatoryBeing 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Funny thing, people in antiquity didn't have government gibs, yet they had babies anyway. Almost as if children are nature's retirement plan.

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– lapalapa 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

Family's broken these days.

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