You ignored my mentions of pensions and healthcare.
No, i mentioned the government handout ponzi schemes.
You can't just tell a generation to go fuck themselves after they worked their entire lives on certain promises.
The fact that you were victimized by a scam does not justify forcing more people into the scam in hopes of keeping the gibs coming until you die.
It'd be chaos.
Yes, when the scam inevitably ends, it will be chaos. Especially if it ends due to the economy collapsing due to unsustainable spending. But I'm sure you only care about collecting your gibs.
No, i mentioned the government handout ponzi schemes.
like social security
Unless you're self-employed or a contractor, your employer already withholds the SS and Medicare/aid taxes from your paycheck. By current Federal law and by threat of fine or jailtime, any member of the populace with an income are forced to pay into it. It needs to be grandfathered out and abolished, but good fucking luck getting politicians and a large chuck of the sheep to go along with it.
The fact that you were victimized by a scam...
In the sense of a 401K/Roth IRA, then yes, you're right because people can make the choice of getting scammed. In the other cases, you're telling people to get fucked because the government stole their money. 2edgy4me bruh
Everything's black-and-white apparently. If you want to get rid of shit like Social Security, you have to note all the people that paid into it and don't have anybody new pay into it, stop further payments, then either chose to give back immediately or slowly (adjusted for inflation) what people paid. But even that there's going to be complaints about.
There seems to be this common attitude now, "somebody's going to have to get fucked, just not me"
That would be a good way to wind it down. Too bad it's the nature of elected officials to avoid short-term pain and kick the can down the road until the problem they're avoiding gets too big to put off and is now much more painful to deal with. Somebody's going to have to get fucked, and that's more than likely going to include me.
To be honest, unless you’re already over 45, I suspect that the only way you’ll see any social security money is if it’s so inflated by money printing it is almost literally worthless. Speaking as someone that will “lose out” if social security is abolished or fails in the next 30 years, I’d rather take the hit personally and not also import infinity immigrants trying to save a system that’s already collapsing.
I can see grandfathering people who are already receiving it, for whom it makes up a significant portion of their monthly budget, but other than that it really should just end. It is a grenade, and someone needs to jump on it.
"Literally"? Reading comprehension must not be your strong suit. Anybody who has not paid into Social Security should not have it, but the way Beef talked implied that even those who have paid into it by force of law are suckers.
Don't make assumptions about someone's politics based on just one reply they made in disagreement of a misguided opinion. It's been a significantly growing problem on this forum, we don't need it getting any worse.
No, i mentioned the government handout ponzi schemes.
The fact that you were victimized by a scam does not justify forcing more people into the scam in hopes of keeping the gibs coming until you die.
Yes, when the scam inevitably ends, it will be chaos. Especially if it ends due to the economy collapsing due to unsustainable spending. But I'm sure you only care about collecting your gibs.
Unless you're self-employed or a contractor, your employer already withholds the SS and Medicare/aid taxes from your paycheck. By current Federal law and by threat of fine or jailtime, any member of the populace with an income are forced to pay into it. It needs to be grandfathered out and abolished, but good fucking luck getting politicians and a large chuck of the sheep to go along with it.
In the sense of a 401K/Roth IRA, then yes, you're right because people can make the choice of getting scammed. In the other cases, you're telling people to get fucked because the government stole their money. 2edgy4me bruh
Alternatively, you're telling future generations to get fucked because grandpa wants his gibs.
Everything's black-and-white apparently. If you want to get rid of shit like Social Security, you have to note all the people that paid into it and don't have anybody new pay into it, stop further payments, then either chose to give back immediately or slowly (adjusted for inflation) what people paid. But even that there's going to be complaints about.
There seems to be this common attitude now, "somebody's going to have to get fucked, just not me"
That would be a good way to wind it down. Too bad it's the nature of elected officials to avoid short-term pain and kick the can down the road until the problem they're avoiding gets too big to put off and is now much more painful to deal with. Somebody's going to have to get fucked, and that's more than likely going to include me.
To be honest, unless you’re already over 45, I suspect that the only way you’ll see any social security money is if it’s so inflated by money printing it is almost literally worthless. Speaking as someone that will “lose out” if social security is abolished or fails in the next 30 years, I’d rather take the hit personally and not also import infinity immigrants trying to save a system that’s already collapsing.
I can see grandfathering people who are already receiving it, for whom it makes up a significant portion of their monthly budget, but other than that it really should just end. It is a grenade, and someone needs to jump on it.
"Literally"? Reading comprehension must not be your strong suit. Anybody who has not paid into Social Security should not have it, but the way Beef talked implied that even those who have paid into it by force of law are suckers.
Don't make assumptions about someone's politics based on just one reply they made in disagreement of a misguided opinion. It's been a significantly growing problem on this forum, we don't need it getting any worse.
You assume too much