We've seen how women react to their gamer boyfriends to the point of going insane and destroying their gaming PCs sometimes clearly worth thousands because it all gets posted online now. The lotus eaters did a segment recently about women breaking up with their guys and while I did not agree with their takes at all it did show that there are women out there who if their boyfriend does not keep them at the centre of their universe 100% of the time they're going to kick of a shitstorm about it.
So really the message to me was good luck having friends, hobbies and any kind of life if you want a girlfriend. Can't have both and date a mature woman that recognises sometimes she can't always get her way. It reeks of a bratty mindset where they think it's all got to be about them and I have no respect for that.
Imagine as well if you're a guy and you're a real professional or you're a business owner. You come home and that's what you've got to look forward to when you just want to have some peace and quiet after a stressful day. It is no wonder women who have that mindset are permanently single and a lot of them are definitely not attractive enough to put up with that shit.
Can't have both and date a mature woman that recognises sometimes she can't always get her way. It reeks of a bratty mindset where they think it's all got to be about them and I have no respect for that.
They've been spoiled rotten by a culture that refuses to let them endure the slightest inconvenience. That's why they throw shit fits whenever they don't get their way about the tiniest of things. It's also a major part of why they treat men with the slightest imperfections in any area as subhuman. They don't think they should have to make the trade-offs in dating that a mere mortal does.
True, you don't need to even be the type of submissive eyecandy shit that the manosphere types call a 'true woman'
You want to know a keeper type of woman? Your past scenario, you come home after a long day, she's there before you and just says 'hi honey long day?' as a short welcome, quick acknowledgement and then leaves you to work out stress by gaming a bit, she does her own thing maybe even gaming too or even joining you and then after you meet up in bed and just sleep.
That is just ALL we need, none of this 'the world revolves around me' shit, we acknowledge each other, let ourselves time to de-stress through our hobbies but come back to bed together always, the bare minimum and both sides but especially the left miss the point on this.
For that scenario in particular, depending on lifestyle you might want a woman who can contribute equally like if you're more living independently or if you're working from home have something more important.
The important thing is to have respect for time and or the other person's hobbies. If you demand their time when it is limited due to providing or dismiss their hobbies as 'childish', you aren't approaching the relationship from anything more than you want a devotee than a partner.
The point is for the woman knowing when to be a mature person and when it's acceptable to be clingy and unlike women men aren't fucking hint droppers. If I've been on a coding session for example until 6:00am like I have done just today the last thing I would want is to have some woman behaving like an utter brat and trying to start shit with me. I go into day long trances sometimes thinking non-stop about code and when I'm done I'm pretty exhausted even though I enjoy my work.
Being somebody who's never had a girlfriend before, being clingy and attention seeking would be cute under normal circumstances but no fucking way if I've got a lot of shit going on. This is why I bring up the point of, these women desire professional men, but they have no idea what a relationship with one would actually look like. So when they finally get what they want that goes at least some way to explaining why they ditch them anyway and think they can find someone better.
That's the deal women don't seem to understand these days, when you get a hardworking guy there are pitfalls to that and time constraints are one of them. Mature women understand this which is why they always end up in the happy marriages, the bratty permanently single women don't.
hobbies and any kind of life if you want a girlfriend
Honestly this not true, there are "acceptable" hobbies. Building things or fishing, sports, working out or hunting (in some circles) are things that girls can brag about to their friends.
A lot depends on whether she respects him for being hawt. If she sees him as an alpha the hobbies aren't a problem. It becomes a problem if she put him in the beta provider category, because at that point the hobbies become an impediment to her extracting the maximum amount of value from him before throwing him out like yesterday's garbage.
Building things or fishing, sports, working out or hunting...
Masculine trait, masculine, masculine, masculine and masculine. It all forms part of intrasexual competition which improves her exposure to others, boosts her respect from others and provides something for her.
But he still has to make her the centre of her world. This is why you can get complaints about fishing when it's done all day to escape from the situation at home and get some peace.
Generally speaking, once you get married women will do one of two things to your hobbies: 1. Invade them or 2. Destroy them. The goal is to have 100% ownership of your fun (which lets her charge any price she wants for it). It does not matter what those hobbies are. She does not care.
That's why you need to set the boundaries early. Say your game/bowling/fishing/poker time is MAN TIME ONLY. She is not allowed, you won't stop for her, and that is that. Never give a single inch.
There is no time spent doing things other than paying attention to her that a woman will not be jealous of. The only solution is to tell them tough shit and you don't care.
This is why I always tell my wife no when my idiot friends try to invite her to D&D night. She's my wife and I love her, but D&D is sacred and she does not belong there.
That's a fair point, it seems to be the same thing when it comes to professions and whether they're 'educated' or not. This is why university educated men are up on the list of desirables along with professions like doctor and I do know the maths on that. Even then though, that falls back to my point that this is bratty behaviour and she's making it all about her life and what makes her happy, what the man wants in the relationship be damned.
I don't why men are willing to live like that. I refuse to arrange my life around appeasing an overgrown child who wouldn't know adversity if it bit her on her over pampered ass.
I think I heard it on a hoe_math video (don't quote me on that) that women like to live life as if they are the starring actress in the movie that is their life. The husband/boyfriend is the main man who makes that happen. It may also be fuelling the concept that men should do everything and the frustration recently at younger men who are not earning as much as younger women.
The problem with video games is that the main character is the main focus of the man at that time. Escapism means escaping from your duties. And that's probably why the right has an issue with it.
Sort of agree. I believe that women who don’t accept the hobbies of their boyfriends or husbands are just stuck in high-school bully phase. There are women out there who are very accepting (or in) of gamers. They are just drowned out but the digital age where the most immature, vicious bitch is the loudest.
We've seen how women react to their gamer boyfriends to the point of going insane and destroying their gaming PCs sometimes clearly worth thousands because it all gets posted online now. The lotus eaters did a segment recently about women breaking up with their guys and while I did not agree with their takes at all it did show that there are women out there who if their boyfriend does not keep them at the centre of their universe 100% of the time they're going to kick of a shitstorm about it.
So really the message to me was good luck having friends, hobbies and any kind of life if you want a girlfriend. Can't have both and date a mature woman that recognises sometimes she can't always get her way. It reeks of a bratty mindset where they think it's all got to be about them and I have no respect for that.
Imagine as well if you're a guy and you're a real professional or you're a business owner. You come home and that's what you've got to look forward to when you just want to have some peace and quiet after a stressful day. It is no wonder women who have that mindset are permanently single and a lot of them are definitely not attractive enough to put up with that shit.
They've been spoiled rotten by a culture that refuses to let them endure the slightest inconvenience. That's why they throw shit fits whenever they don't get their way about the tiniest of things. It's also a major part of why they treat men with the slightest imperfections in any area as subhuman. They don't think they should have to make the trade-offs in dating that a mere mortal does.
Every Lifetime Romantic movie has the guy giving up what he loves for his new girlfriend, and then it ends.
True, you don't need to even be the type of submissive eyecandy shit that the manosphere types call a 'true woman'
You want to know a keeper type of woman? Your past scenario, you come home after a long day, she's there before you and just says 'hi honey long day?' as a short welcome, quick acknowledgement and then leaves you to work out stress by gaming a bit, she does her own thing maybe even gaming too or even joining you and then after you meet up in bed and just sleep.
That is just ALL we need, none of this 'the world revolves around me' shit, we acknowledge each other, let ourselves time to de-stress through our hobbies but come back to bed together always, the bare minimum and both sides but especially the left miss the point on this.
So... Your ideal wife is a coworker you happen to fuck every now and then, and share tax filings with?
I mean, works for me, just seems a minority opinion.
For that scenario in particular, depending on lifestyle you might want a woman who can contribute equally like if you're more living independently or if you're working from home have something more important.
The important thing is to have respect for time and or the other person's hobbies. If you demand their time when it is limited due to providing or dismiss their hobbies as 'childish', you aren't approaching the relationship from anything more than you want a devotee than a partner.
The point is for the woman knowing when to be a mature person and when it's acceptable to be clingy and unlike women men aren't fucking hint droppers. If I've been on a coding session for example until 6:00am like I have done just today the last thing I would want is to have some woman behaving like an utter brat and trying to start shit with me. I go into day long trances sometimes thinking non-stop about code and when I'm done I'm pretty exhausted even though I enjoy my work.
Being somebody who's never had a girlfriend before, being clingy and attention seeking would be cute under normal circumstances but no fucking way if I've got a lot of shit going on. This is why I bring up the point of, these women desire professional men, but they have no idea what a relationship with one would actually look like. So when they finally get what they want that goes at least some way to explaining why they ditch them anyway and think they can find someone better.
That's the deal women don't seem to understand these days, when you get a hardworking guy there are pitfalls to that and time constraints are one of them. Mature women understand this which is why they always end up in the happy marriages, the bratty permanently single women don't.
Bro you've never even had a girlfriend?
Honestly this not true, there are "acceptable" hobbies. Building things or fishing, sports, working out or hunting (in some circles) are things that girls can brag about to their friends.
A lot depends on whether she respects him for being hawt. If she sees him as an alpha the hobbies aren't a problem. It becomes a problem if she put him in the beta provider category, because at that point the hobbies become an impediment to her extracting the maximum amount of value from him before throwing him out like yesterday's garbage.
Masculine trait, masculine, masculine, masculine and masculine. It all forms part of intrasexual competition which improves her exposure to others, boosts her respect from others and provides something for her.
But he still has to make her the centre of her world. This is why you can get complaints about fishing when it's done all day to escape from the situation at home and get some peace.
Generally speaking, once you get married women will do one of two things to your hobbies: 1. Invade them or 2. Destroy them. The goal is to have 100% ownership of your fun (which lets her charge any price she wants for it). It does not matter what those hobbies are. She does not care.
That's why you need to set the boundaries early. Say your game/bowling/fishing/poker time is MAN TIME ONLY. She is not allowed, you won't stop for her, and that is that. Never give a single inch.
There is no time spent doing things other than paying attention to her that a woman will not be jealous of. The only solution is to tell them tough shit and you don't care.
This is why I always tell my wife no when my idiot friends try to invite her to D&D night. She's my wife and I love her, but D&D is sacred and she does not belong there.
Yeah but no man starts a hobby so that his chick can brag to their female friends
That's a fair point, it seems to be the same thing when it comes to professions and whether they're 'educated' or not. This is why university educated men are up on the list of desirables along with professions like doctor and I do know the maths on that. Even then though, that falls back to my point that this is bratty behaviour and she's making it all about her life and what makes her happy, what the man wants in the relationship be damned.
As a married guy, I can confirm this to be true. In fact is so acceptable that the same saying is in multiple cultures: "Happy wife, happy life"
I don't why men are willing to live like that. I refuse to arrange my life around appeasing an overgrown child who wouldn't know adversity if it bit her on her over pampered ass.
I think I heard it on a hoe_math video (don't quote me on that) that women like to live life as if they are the starring actress in the movie that is their life. The husband/boyfriend is the main man who makes that happen. It may also be fuelling the concept that men should do everything and the frustration recently at younger men who are not earning as much as younger women.
The problem with video games is that the main character is the main focus of the man at that time. Escapism means escaping from your duties. And that's probably why the right has an issue with it.
Oh my god! Why did he commit suicide! /s
Sort of agree. I believe that women who don’t accept the hobbies of their boyfriends or husbands are just stuck in high-school bully phase. There are women out there who are very accepting (or in) of gamers. They are just drowned out but the digital age where the most immature, vicious bitch is the loudest.