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Trump says he will build an Iron Dome in America. What the actual fuck is this bullshit? (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor 2 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor +11 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

I mean the only way that would work is less on the scale of the Iron Dome in Israel and more on the Star Wars program that was discontinued decades ago

America doesn't need to worry about short range attacks, it needs to stop intercontinental missiles. Sort of like the system they had in Tom Clancy's Endwar

But if they're the only ones that have it, everyone opposing the US is fucked because there's no more MAD, they can fully stop any attacks against them while any other country us fucked. Though considering the condition of the worlds nuclear stockpile, I'd put that on the back-burner and focus more on Cyberwarfare, drones and EMP warfare over this.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

My point is why he is even talking about something like this now?

This won't gain him any votes. He might even lose more than a few votes just based on the stupid meme way he described how the Iron Dome works.

As much as I personally loathe Trump for how he fucked us with Operation Warpspeed, not crackdowning on the BLM riots and listening to Fauci on the COVID lockdowns, Trump is who the retarded GOP primary electorate in Iowa selected.

I think Trump is also a retard but alas he is still better than Biden.

If Trump wants to win, he needs to stop talking about nonsense like the Iron Dome and hammer against Biden on the economy, immigration and crime.

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– fauxgnaws 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

What he's talking about here is massive domestic military spending.

This is the main reason why the military industrial complex opposes Trump, because no new wars no new spending. They'd creme themselves to get a working defense shield because then they can fight anybody, they've just never dared to disrupt the MAD dynamic.

Generally people do things for a reason, so if you can't figure it out then you're the one missing something.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The Iron dome is an example of wasteful massive domestic spending.

No Trump voter has ever asked for this garbage.

The MIC will love this idea because they can overcharge for this shit Dome and grift off taxpayer money.

Trump really needs to focus on the essentials to win: economy, immigration and crime.

Stop making excuses for this dumbass idea.

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– fauxgnaws 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I think you're still missing the point here. Trump already has the voters to win the election in a landslide (in an honest election).

What he has to do is convince the shadow government not to assassinate him and that his second term won't be so bad that they need to use another black swan like covid.

The 'iron hemisphere' gets the military industrial complex off his back. Then he mostly just has to fight the pedos.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You are being delusional here: "Trump already has the voters to win the election in a landslide (in an honest election)."

First of all Trump has lost many voters since 2020 as he now has the new baggage of J6, Operation WarpSpeed and lockdowns.

The amount of votes he got in 2020 was not enough to actually win the damn election.

How is 2024 going to be a honest election when it was rigged when Trump was an incumbent but now it will be fine when he is out of office?

Your logic makes no sense.

Any victory in 2024 will be a hard fought narrow electoral college victory.

Stop making up justifications for dumb things Trump does.

He needs to run a campaign focused on the key issues of the economy, immigration and crime in order to win.

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThunk 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

he now has the new baggage of J6

Only NPCs get worked up about the guided tours of January sixth and they were never going to vote for Trump before that.

Operation WarpSpeed and lockdowns.

Warpspeed is one of his fuck ups, but the lockdowns were a state thing. It doesn't matter though, because there's no way his DNC opponent isn't worse on those issues.

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– SoctaticMethod1 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

He's using the Iron Dome as a workable example and applying it to Star Wars.

He should just be hitting on immigration but thanks to the Biden administration own actions they can't even claim to be for restrictions.

Essentially, the Biden administration are so shit all you have to be is not them and people will vote for you, Trump has a track record of not being them and those that despise Trump will vote RFK Jr instead not giving votes to Biden. We're at the point where people are more scared they'll try to assassinate Trump than of him actually losing the election or not being allowed on the ballot.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Trump can absolutely still lose the election if he runs a shitty campaign.

I still prefer the orange man winning over Biden.

Suburban independent voters will ultimately decide what happens.

If enough suburban indie voters stay home or vote for third parties in large enough numbers, then Trump can win in the electoral college.

Trump's best path to victory is third parties and voter apathy hurts Biden's suburban/urban coalition and Trump ekes out a narrow win in the electoral college by securing atleast 90 percent of GOP registered voters and by getting atleast 45 percent of independent voters.

The hardest fucking part is getting that independent voter number.

A lot of independent voters vehemently despise Trump. We need these people to stay home or vote third party, they will never vote for Trump regardless of how bad things get under Biden.

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– SoctaticMethod1 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

It's why I think RFK Jr running independently is the biggest win for Trump and RFK Jr KNOWS this and is running as a spoiler.

Some of his statements about reparations and the like seem to be him trying to court even far left voters, he's trying to basically do what the Bull Moose party did but to the Democrats this time.

Trump COULD still screw it up but him just not picking Haley as VP lowered that chance immensely. And it looks like most, if not all the court cases against him are going sideways so he is in a good position as Biden is getting dragged down more thanks to Israel Gaza war.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I think Cornell West will be the GOP's best ally in this election.

He will pull some progressive leftist votes away from Biden over the Israel/Palestine conflict.

I think RFK Jr.'s involvement will be a wash for the election.

Plenty of people who hate Trump and are actual conservatives will still vote for RFK over his strong stance against tyranny during COVID.

RFK Jr. certainly hurts both Trump and Biden.

Cornell West on the other hand only appeals to the left.

Trump still has not announced his V.P. so he has still time to make a disastrous mistake there like pick MTG which would just kill him in the suburbs.

It remains to be seen if he can delay the court cases and avoid being labeled as a convicted felon before the election.

Trump is totally fucked if he gets convicted before the election. Many older voters will NEVER vote for a felon regardless of the circumstances of the charges.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

No matter how many anti-missile systems we have, the US is unlikely to start using nuclear weapons.

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– Piroko 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

You're making the old leftist mistake of taking him literally but not seriously.

Remember, the guy has no filter between his mouth and his brain. Take him seriously, but never literally.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You summed it up perfectly why so many people despise Trump.

He just says stupid shit unnecessarily.

It is one of the worst things about him along with his pisspoor personnel selection skills and his inability to accept that he ever made a mistake.

God save us all.

Trump vs Biden 2024 is such a demoralizing shit election.

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– Piroko 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Your disappointment is because you've expected too much.

I've always viewed him as a usefully obnoxious battering ram. The substance of a Trump presidency has never interested me as much as the impact of a Trump victory.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Excuse me for expecting him not to lockdown the country, not to approve Operation Warpspeed and not let the BLM riots continue unabated.

As the right we were worse off in 2021 than we were in 2016.

This is what upsets me.

If he wins again, is this what will happen?

I don't care about the symbolic Trump victory.

I care about the actual results.

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– Piroko 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I care about the actual results.

Your expectations are far too high. I don't see how you can hope to find happiness in this life.

I am content to pwn the libs.

If we happen to get a closed border, lower taxes, and a better economy, those are fantastic stretch goals. But my baseline for success is simply schadenfreude.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

We certainly didn't pwn the libs much after 2016.

How owned were the libs in 2018, 2020, 2022?

The libs outperformed the polls in every single swing state Senate, House and gubernatorial election.

I don't care about being content by having low expectations.

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– Piroko 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Then why aren't you running?

I give you shit OTP because there's a massive disconnect between your words and your actions. You say you really, really give a fuck but you're actions say you don't. If I was as passionate as you are about fixing the things you're angry about, one of two things would be true:

Either, A, I'd be holding office, or B, I'd be dead and there'd be a bloody trail behind me.

I judge your words and actions against my own standards and come to the conclusion that you're just angry and all talk.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I am a single unmarried Asian American male and I certainly won't be winning any primaries with the primary electorate of my state.

It is dumb to dictate that you cannot care about results without running for office yourself.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

You're acting like Trump dumped you at prom because he said he likes missile defense for one minute out of his 40-100 minute freeform stump speeches.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Hey Trumpkin, this is not why I am mad.

He can't keep his fat mouth focused long enough to win an election.

The Iowa primary electorate picked him and we are stuck running him.

I want this retard to win against Biden.

He cannot do that if he behaves like a dumbass like seen in this clip.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

How is he behaving like a dumbass in this clip? The guy just said he wants missile defense.

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– Raos044 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Shh. He doesn't want logic, he just wants Orange Man Bad and any attempt to reason with him will have him call you some badly concieved, derrogatory nickname for a Trump fan whether you like the man or not.

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– loubag1997 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Lol we are so fucked

Can we wake up already in 2012 and realize everything since then has been a fever dream??

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

I would love to go back to 1995.

I feel like I experienced the peak of America during the 90s.

We had good music, way less woke bullshit in education compared to now.

No LGBT garbage

Corporations still used attractive people for advertising.

We had an excellent era of gaming

We had no social media polarizing everything and making everyone always at each other's throats

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– loubag1997 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The further back the better, honestly...

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Guess Trump wants to waste tons of money to make the Military Industrial Complex richer.

If only this guy could shut up about stupid shit like this and focus his campaign on the really important things: getting the economy going again, stopping illegal immigration and lowering crime.

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