I would agree in a high trust society. However all that would happen with a tax break society currently is that the dregs would keep the money, then demand someone else educate their child for free. School vouchers at least removes the public education plague and allows for invested interests like charter schools to fill the gaps for people who can’t or won’t homeschool. Parental involvement will always be king, but in our current society we need some mitigating factors as a stepping stone.
Okay, how about a voucher system where homeschooling is one of the voucher options but this option is only available to married people with family incomes above $100k/yr.
but this option is only available to married people with family incomes above $100k/yr.
Money is fungible. If you give these people their tax money back, they will pay for school. GP is talking about worse parents.
Two things can be true, ok? Parents have a broad right to influence their children's education, and the kids of bad parents didn't do anything wrong to be denied an education. That's why money is taken from taxes and put towards students so every student has something to bring to the school.
It's somewhat statist, but it's a lot less statist than what happens now. Going from government-run to free for all often leads to corruption. I am totally fine with shrinking government in phases.
As a responsible parent that wants control of my child's education and who doesn't believe women should be working, I don't want my wife doing anything except home schooling and I don't want to pay for an education system that doesn't benefit me. In fact, given that many women work at these institutions earning an income, their mere existence goes against my moral values. I should not be forced to pay for them. Even many private schools and catholic schools are woke monstrosities.
I fail to see what's wrong with allowing married parents with sizable income to get all their tax dollars back in the form of the "voucher". It should not only go toward schools but also parents that want to home school. By limiting it to married parents with a sizable income we'll pretty much cutout most bad parents from having access to this. A few will slip through the cracks but not enough to matter.
I guess I was misinterpreting the aim of your policy. As long as there's some way that innocent poor kids can get an education, while respecting the primacy of parental rights, I'm all for it.
Should you pay for prisons even though you're not a criminal and they don't directly benefit you? Well sure, because you're better off with thugs off the streets.
Same idea with schools (which today are kind of like prisons), you're better off the more educated people there are.
The problem isn't that childless or home school parents are paying for education for others, it's that they're paying for indoctrination and everything but education. End the teachers unions, bring back merit, competition, and consequences for kids and teachers both.
Like if teacher pay was scaled to how well their kids actually performed then they wouldn't even have time to teach woke shit, they'd be too busy trying to keep their jobs or get that bonus by actually teaching.
Well micro schools are also popping up too fortunately , I would argue vouchers across the board, while homeschooling should definitely have a requirement factor
all school choice vouchers do is shift blacks to middle class white schools and make them worse, and then the original students from that school will have to use the voucher to go somewhere whiter. a majority white school regardless of community income level will always be better than majority black school because they don't have to deal with violent disruptive apes
Not necessarily true, what a school voucher incentivizes is the ability for a parent at any year to shift their child to where they deem best. Based on what I’ve seen for the charter school data Sowell has pumped out recently is that simply getting away from the public school plague is a stepping stone for everyone. The vouchers also allow for anyone capable of higher learning to have an advantage as their parents will likely add more funds to attend a private school. This kills the current system of “public funding” and mass school bonds to fix the “quota”
As someone who's been around school teachers and the school system for a sizable chunk of my life -
Good.
Teachers are painfully incompetent(and impossible to fire), and anything above a certain level is just a mess of political nepotism and racial spoils(if you live in such an area).
We should be defunding public education entirely and giving people tax breaks.
School choice vouchers. I would say make catholic schools great again, but they’re far to subverted anymore.
No school choice. You can choose with your own money. Most people should be home schooling.
I would agree in a high trust society. However all that would happen with a tax break society currently is that the dregs would keep the money, then demand someone else educate their child for free. School vouchers at least removes the public education plague and allows for invested interests like charter schools to fill the gaps for people who can’t or won’t homeschool. Parental involvement will always be king, but in our current society we need some mitigating factors as a stepping stone.
Okay, how about a voucher system where homeschooling is one of the voucher options but this option is only available to married people with family incomes above $100k/yr.
Money is fungible. If you give these people their tax money back, they will pay for school. GP is talking about worse parents.
Two things can be true, ok? Parents have a broad right to influence their children's education, and the kids of bad parents didn't do anything wrong to be denied an education. That's why money is taken from taxes and put towards students so every student has something to bring to the school.
It's somewhat statist, but it's a lot less statist than what happens now. Going from government-run to free for all often leads to corruption. I am totally fine with shrinking government in phases.
As a responsible parent that wants control of my child's education and who doesn't believe women should be working, I don't want my wife doing anything except home schooling and I don't want to pay for an education system that doesn't benefit me. In fact, given that many women work at these institutions earning an income, their mere existence goes against my moral values. I should not be forced to pay for them. Even many private schools and catholic schools are woke monstrosities.
I fail to see what's wrong with allowing married parents with sizable income to get all their tax dollars back in the form of the "voucher". It should not only go toward schools but also parents that want to home school. By limiting it to married parents with a sizable income we'll pretty much cutout most bad parents from having access to this. A few will slip through the cracks but not enough to matter.
I guess I was misinterpreting the aim of your policy. As long as there's some way that innocent poor kids can get an education, while respecting the primacy of parental rights, I'm all for it.
Should you pay for prisons even though you're not a criminal and they don't directly benefit you? Well sure, because you're better off with thugs off the streets.
Same idea with schools (which today are kind of like prisons), you're better off the more educated people there are.
The problem isn't that childless or home school parents are paying for education for others, it's that they're paying for indoctrination and everything but education. End the teachers unions, bring back merit, competition, and consequences for kids and teachers both.
Like if teacher pay was scaled to how well their kids actually performed then they wouldn't even have time to teach woke shit, they'd be too busy trying to keep their jobs or get that bonus by actually teaching.
Well micro schools are also popping up too fortunately , I would argue vouchers across the board, while homeschooling should definitely have a requirement factor
all school choice vouchers do is shift blacks to middle class white schools and make them worse, and then the original students from that school will have to use the voucher to go somewhere whiter. a majority white school regardless of community income level will always be better than majority black school because they don't have to deal with violent disruptive apes
Not necessarily true, what a school voucher incentivizes is the ability for a parent at any year to shift their child to where they deem best. Based on what I’ve seen for the charter school data Sowell has pumped out recently is that simply getting away from the public school plague is a stepping stone for everyone. The vouchers also allow for anyone capable of higher learning to have an advantage as their parents will likely add more funds to attend a private school. This kills the current system of “public funding” and mass school bonds to fix the “quota”
No section 8 for schools.
You people are retarded.
As someone who's been around school teachers and the school system for a sizable chunk of my life -
Good.
Teachers are painfully incompetent(and impossible to fire), and anything above a certain level is just a mess of political nepotism and racial spoils(if you live in such an area).
I hope they suffer.
If Biden manages to win in '24 I suspect there's going to be a push to ban home schooling.
And given that the GOP are a bunch of sad yippy purse dogs hanging off the arm of the DNC I can see it happening.
quick, import more foreigners
I’m happy to see society is finished with teacher worship.
Where will children learn pronouns and BLM?
"Why aren't kids enrolling in public schools?"
Interesting.
I have a better question.
"Why do we have public schools?"
Tenth Amendment.
Good.
Nature is healing.
ont worry, they'll have plenty to fill once the invaders start having more kids and they grow up.