I am very much observing Argentina at the moment guys, the west is a lost cause as far as I'm concerned. I'm probably going to flee to South America like the Alliance and Horde fleeing to Kalimdor from the Burning Legion. So far in terms of policy, Milei is doing everything that I want out of a government.
He's even gone so far as to simply wipe out portions of the government itself through presidential decree because he knows his enemy and what they'll do to try and stop him. I am admittedly fanboing over him but you've got to admit this is impressive, I've never seen a 'right winger' do any of this shit, not even Trump. Got to give him credit for having the balls to do it properly.
I'm not sure about the pesos notes, that's a bit beyond me in terms of economic knowledge, I'd have to research that. However cryptocurrency contracts? Brilliant, you don't have to make any special laws with crypto, just declare it private money and make it all legal and you're good, then that way people can start building up their savings in crypto if they want to which is an infinitely better option than the out of control central banks.
Something quite funny happened with Milei as well recently with the left. They organised protests against him but apparently there wasn't as big of a turnout as they were hoping for. He also anticipated their tactics and made sure to ban roadblocks but still allowed them to protest on sidewalks to prevent them from fucking with regular people and putting them in danger. Another based move by him was he's supposedly put it into place anybody causing trouble is going to have their benefits removed.
Lots of reeeing from the left of course, but there's nothing they can do. I remember as well there was a lot of understandable concern about him thinking on open borders. If he just gets rid of any possible migrant benefits and refuses to give them money, there's no way any of them are going to show up anyway, it will only be those who actually want to at the very least work that will show up.
Uh, the Horde are the invaders/migrants in that situation, dude.
Orcs were literally imported by Medivh/Sargeras prior to WC1 to Azeroth, burning and looting everything while hopped up on demon blood - Warcraft 1.
Then they did it again, despite knowing what demon blood already did - Warcraft 2.
Then they mana bombed/nuked Theramore [Mist of Pandaria pre-patch] before the most recent Burning Legion invasion happened and then genocide the Night Elves by razing Teldrassil [BFA pre-patch] afterwards, civilians/children included. When the Alliance responded by marching on Undercity, Sylvanas, the leader of the Horde at the time and sole individual who gave the order to burn Teldrassil and its occupants, literally let loose a biochemical weapon that rendered Undercity uninhabitable, even to the undead.
Pick a better analogy next time.
Nerd :P
Damn right.
As I understand it, Milie's idea with the currency thing is to wrest control of the economy away from Argentina's Central Bank, which has proven to be about as steady and sober as a sailor on leave.
As far as I see it, whether he switches to dollar or Bitcoin, it's still going to be a step up from the peso, that's how bad it's gotten.
Yeah, there seems to be a lot of shit going around it. RT was claiming he "devalued the currency by 56%" but I don't know if that means he spiked inflation (which I doubt), or he caused deflation which they are intentionally misconstruing as "devaluing".
Yes, there's also some former big shots in American finance running the treasury, but it's one of those things where if you're going to lean into the Americans, they probably want to re-order enough of the financial sector to get their money back, and completely dissolving the central bank might have gone down as a non-starter.
I don't envy the situation he's in, and although I'd love him to go full Ancapistan mode, he seems to be navigating it appropriately. Especially with a war-hungry US leering over his shoulder.
There was what the government said their money was worth, their official rates and what you allowed to trade, and the actual exchange rates on the market, what people actually traded.
He immediately moved to 'devalue' by 56%. As in recognise reality and what the money is actually worth, 800-1000 or so to the dollar, rather than the previous admin's bullshit of 400 or so. Now you don't have to go through the black market or various intermediaries or do loads of bullshit to trade your money and do other trades.
What had happened is the lefties had inflated the fuck out of it, but their official rates looked 'good' cause they set a bullshit official exchange rate, so the peso looked stronger than it actually was. This is just recognising reality and allowing fair trade.
Now as I understand there is also a plan to keep going though, devaluing at like 2% per month. Which is still quite high. Pursuing a kind of chinese style export focused model where your cheap currency helps your exports look attractive, and some other effects.
I don't necessarily agree with that part, but the initial recognition of reality is definitely needed.
So what specifically does "devalue" mean in this case? Did he free up the markets to decide on the value of the money as the result of some policy change? I don't get it. Was there some sort of value cap established by treaty?
I'm guessing that he wants to keep making exports cheap to sustain the industries long enough to repair them, but also knows that if he properly stops devaluing, he might actually get uncontrolled deflation. Which, although inevitable, you still want to try and limit.
literally just changing the official exchange rate to make it reflect reality
The most realistic scenario is probably him switching to the dollar for the sake of not being CIA'd, Bitcoin can just be private money with light regulation to prevent fraud, I'd be fine with that for the most part. The west has an absolute hard on for going after cryptocurrency users sometimes depending on the country. That's something I do know a lot about.
I currently wish him a Merry Christmas and a happy purging
This guy is actually shrinking the government
Funniest shit is he allegedly got rid of a lot of woke stuff already like the ministry of culture and some women's thing which is amazing. If they even got close to that here in the UK they'd immediately pussy out. Alternatively many 'conservatives' in the west seek to expand their own government which inevitably gets hijacked by woke morons anyway, they're beyond useless.
I am going to be very curious to see how he handles things like hate speech which hopefully under Milei won't ever even reach the law there. This means it will pretty much be the perfect places for somebody like me and I can gamedev in peace. Really anybody who wants to have actual freedom should probably consider South America generally, the governments are going to be too poor to implement speech laws or actually 'right wing' by western standards.
I'm convinced in the west we're going to see way more clamping down on speech to the point an average normie is going to get jailed over dumb shit. It may not 100% reach America but they're maintaining private databases and are going to backdoor it through cancellation attempts using corporate networks as I've frequently warned about. It will be Nigel Farage levels of debanking.
Just the fact alone that you can use cryptocurrency way more freely in that country is pretty exciting.
My only criticism is that he should optimally have gone harder by seizing the computers and bulldozing the buildings (or at least shutting off power).
I think he's declared that the agencies have a year or so to close, so they're not getting new work, and they are probably going to get shit-canned, but they are still technically operating.
Agreed, still waiting for him to demolish the central bank with a tank, but we'll see what happens. He's already done more than most new governments do within the month.
Milei is a trojan horse, he's going to destroy Argentina, and sell it to the globalists elites.
1 - He wants Argentina to give up their own currency with the euphemism of "dollarization" (speaking clearly, that's giving up Argentina monetary sovereignty)
2 - He just rised up the taxes for exports but lower them for imports (an clear hostile economic move against Argentinian companies and a clear intention of local deindustrialization)
3 - He's already pushing to abolish "The land law", and doing that unconstitutional becuse those laws protect Argentinian sovereignty over their territories, if he does that, then any foreign multibillionare, corporation or state can freely buy land in Argentina. (Without land laws, any country cease to exist)
And let's not forget.
There was a Biden delegation the day he took the oath, Zelensky was also there, and he went several times to New York to speak with the jewish mafia there, and if that it's not enough, he was being funded by Eduardo Eurkenian.
That Eduardo guy, has english connections and he's been throwing money to "Mapuche international" (an armed guerrillas in Argentina that are being funded by the UK intelligence too).
What do you think it's gonna happen when these multi-billionare with connection with the UK buys land and send some agents to train those fake indians? (the CIA did something like that in Mexico with the same kind of tactics and trained the Zetas).
Milei it's going to take away their monetary sovereignty, it's already putting hostile economic tax rates that are going to destroy Argentina local companies, and he's pushing for an inconstitutional repeal of laws that's it's basically destroying Argentina as a country by selling the territory to the globalists.
Milei it's traitor. You know what he didn't closed from the goverment?, the "UNADI", that means "Instituto Nacional contra la Discriminación, la Xenofobia y el Racismo", translated is 'National Institute against Discrimination, Xenophobia and Racism'
The main reason he didn't closed that idealogical persecution tool, it's because he tried to get several people jailed because opinions about him and the jews, kinda weird isn't?. And that was all before being a candidate for anything.
We'll see what happens, so far he's done things that overall I like, you have to understand as a foreigner. This is the difference between me and others, looking at the UK and noticing it is an oppressive oligarchic police state that easily rivals the soviet union and is rapidly getting worse. Versus a country that has a quirky president and an odd economy with policies that pander to the US and Israel.
I know which one I'd pick to live in day to day, I'm also examining the overall attitudes to government in general and how it governs. The UK is definitely way more conformist and a lot of the population will justify everything they're doing.
I understand, but imagine your country not having your own currency, then getting your local companies to get rekted with taxes while the foreigners pay less (locals cannot compete and they go bankrupt, so they end up selling their properties), and now pushing for your homeland to be sold to foreigners too.
That's actually insane.
The right wing Nationalists are pissed off at him right now, that's more half of his votes, and the socialists are already talking about a coup (and they are right, as crazy as that sound), because they understand that Milei it's working for their enemy. (they just would side with China and Russia, but if you think about it, in a world war situation, Argentina has to be on China side or be fucked by the UK)
Argentina it's at war with the United Kingdom, and the United Kingdom is under the influence of the EU and the United States, both globohomo controlled under the influence of Israel. The globohomo UK was pissed at the last socialist argentinian goverment, because they were negotiating buying war planes from China, do you see where was all going? ('Las malvinas' - "The Falklands"). And the UK and that goverment funded Milei campaign through an argentinian multibillionare that's operating on their behalf, with help of Israel too.
In Argentina, true nationalists (from both sides) think that when the UK falls under a racial/civil war that it's coming there, they have to take the oportunity to take the the "falklands" back.
The reason Milei was put in power in Argentina, it's not only to prevent that and take over their country and organize guerrillas there, but also because Brasil is under Lula, that's is on the side of China and Russia, with Venezuela too. The great powers of the world are playing with South America right know, its a fight for resources and strategic war plans.
It was never about Argentina economy. Milei doesn't give a fuck about argentinians, in fact, seeing that he's completely licks the boots of Israel, he probably despises them.
Remember, 95% plus white country, they want to destroy all white countries, Argentina it's also an objective.
All I need to write in response to that, imagine being arrested and put in ze camps for believing there are only two genders, it's going to happen and I'm getting out of here before it does and establishing myself in South America. It's going to effect my business potentially if I stay here so I'm simply making plans.
Wtf
Isn't he a WEF Jew though?
Shabbos goy, devaluing everything for blackrock to buy up cheap
A bit beyond me too. When you get to a certain age (my 80s) you can't pick up new things.
Here is an economist who explained how it might work and has worked in nearby countries :
https://mishtalk.com/economics/argentinas-new-president-wants-to-adopt-the-us-dollar-how-would-that-work/
He looks promising but I wouldnt be surprised if he gets fought the whole time by leftists even from outside the country so that he cant succeed and be a good example for other countries which are also infected by them.
If he lets the leftists outside run roughshod over him then he was always a weak leader.
well if these leftists control the US government there isnt much he can do especially if he wants to adapt the US dollar.
Woot
I'm in Paraguay, moved back here in 2021, and I've always rolled ny eyes at how many own goals Argentina scores on itself. As soon as someone here told me about Milei, and I saw all the jewish stuff, I knew he was going to back stab. Argentina's gonna Argentina.
Yes, what's going on in Argentina is worth observing. Here's what one needs to really take into consideration. If Milei let's in a bunch of multinational corporations to extract resources from Argentina and brings in low-wage immigrant labor to do the work for the multinationals then he's working against the interests of Argentinians and all he has accomplished is allowed foreigners to exploit Argentina. If he can somehow develop Argentinian based companies and industry with Argentinian owners and develop an entrepreneurial culture within Argentina while limiting immigration and ensuring most of the new jobs go toward Argentinians, then he's doing a good job. I suspect though that we're going to see the former not the latter but we have to wait and see.
The thing the right wingers don't realise about Libertarian types is yes, we've got no problems with migration or open borders ( Mass migration itself is a whole other topic because that's artificial as fuck, we know this as a fact ) however as we've seen from the migrants themselves they're total opportunists most of them and if you remove any financial incentive they have to come to a country they won't bother showing up. It's purely about economics, so all Milei has to do in order to make 'open borders' work is make it so that only migrants that actually want to work and live there show up and problem solved really.
It is understandable being massively against migration in this day and age because the only migration we've ever known is being pushed by WEF weirdos, white leftist women and opportunistic business owners who want cheap foreign labour and they don't care how much local communities get wrecked by it as a result. That's going to be the true Libertarian argument around migration but if Milei as others are suspecting is going to do the typical WEF thing then yeah fuck him.
I think this is a very much wait and see situation. Also worth pointing out. The turn out against him in terms of protest numbers seems to be fairly low so I think that's what a lot of Argentinians are doing.
No, the problem doesn't solve itself. Imagine you're Argentinian and you want a better standard of living but corporations don't want to pay you more so they give great monetary incentives to Indians and Chinese to come to Argentina to work and the Indians and Chinese do work but they work for less than what you'd want to do the work for. Now you don't benefit at all from the resources in your country being exploited by corporations. Where's your gain? Corporations are getting rich off the resources in your country, foreigners are getting rich and you aren't. Where's your benefit? Not only that but the Indians and Chinese fuck your culture up. How does that benefit you? And the Indians and Chinese send the money they earn back to their home countries to support friends and family, they don't even spend it in your society. How does that benefit you?
Immigrants are rarely ever a good thing, especially immigrants of a different race than you, specifically immigrants with darker skin tones.
That all goes back to the issue of making sure the law is enforced equally and not giving any special treatment and benefits to migrants. This is something I'd absolutely brutalise on which would make even the white nationalists here do a double take because I grew up in a migrant community and I know what it's like.
Fuck around and find out should be national policy in any country, no one's got the balls though, we'll see what Milei does.
No, it doesn't go back to what you say. Corporations always hire the cheapest labor they can. People in different countries might be willing to work for a cheaper cost than Argentinians because of how bad their home country is. So what difference does enforcing the laws the same make? Absolutely none. Argentinians will still be worse off in all regards from having immigrants.
How do you think corporations get so competitive in the first place? They get massive tax breaks compared to the average individual or small business. Which then enables them to spend more fucking over their competition and hiring tons of cheap labour across the globe. Get sole traders and small businesses on the same level as corporations and they won't stand a chance because most corporation service is shit and they operate on a government enforced monopoly.
You aren't contributing anything of value to the discussion. So what that the corporations get competitive due to cheap labor. It doesn't have to be that way when you control the society. All you need to do is ensure you have people working to produce the resources in your country. The more efficient the labor the better. This can be accomplished by privatization with foreign corporations or it can be done with capital controls on ownership like in China to ensure only Chinese own the corporations or through partnerships with multinationals etc... you can set laws to make it so say 70% of labor must be domestic people and only 30% foreigners. Canada sets laws like this for natives for example. China sets similar laws themselves for Chinese people getting hired, etc...
A true "free market" with immigrants will only help foreigners and the elite capital owners. It won't help most Argentinians.
I see Milei is already triggering the leftists in Argentina and here. There are so many leftists in here throwing a temper tantrum that is giving me a boner.
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