The treatment technology is similar to the process used for desalinating seawater, but recycling wastewater requires less energy and is less costly than turning saltwater into freshwater. Polhemus said the costs for purifying wastewater will probably be about half the costs of desalinating ocean water.
I call bullshit. There is no way filtering out piss, shit, vomit, dissolved pills, and drugs is any less expensive than boiling and filtering fucking seawater.
It might by the time you factor in all the environmental challenges.
When they built the desalination plant in San Diego County it got delayed by years from all the environmental challenges. Then they shut down the nuke plant they were depending on to power the thing.
Heating 10 liters of water from 20 c to 100 c takes just shy of a kilowatt/hour of energy.
You know how many liters of water a pump can MOVE with a kilowatt/hour of energy?
A fuck lot more than 10.
So while, yes, boiling and condensing water may do in one single step what would otherwise take multiple filtering stages, it simply takes so much energy to vaporize water that there's no way you can make the economics of it work. Not without limitless free heat.
The energy it takes to heat water is in kWh, not kW/h. If we're talking about actual desalinization through evaporation, don't forget the energy cost of the phase change, which is what takes most of the energy- just boiling ten liters of water already at 100 c takes another 6.27 kWh. So with the .937 you mentioned for heating from 20c to 100c, 7.21 kWh overall. Or in cubic meters of water, 721 kWh/m^3.
But actual desalinization plants recapture almost all of that energy to heat the incoming water, so the effective energy used is far less than that. According to this it's around 10–16 kWh/m^3 for multi-stage flash distillation, which is the efficient form of the evaporation process we're talking about here. But reverse osmosis is even less, at 3-4.
Description of multi-stage flash distillation from that link pasted below, because I found it interesting:
Saline water blended with recycled brine, preheated within the middle stages, is brought to working temperature (usually between 90–110 °C) with steam, in the Heat Input Section. At this point, it is transferred to the first stage, which is kept at a lower pressure than the heated saline water equilibrium pressure. Consequently, the saline water becomes partially vaporized. Steam generation removes energy from the mass of saline water, therefore cooling it to a certain extent. Furthermore, steam extraction results in higher salinity and higher boiling point in the case of the remaining saline water. The steam is transmitted to demisters, where transported droplets are eliminated, then it flows into a heat exchanger at the top of the stage. Consequently, the heat of the steam is passed over to the incoming saline water, whereby the steam cools down and condenses. By this process, the heat can be recovered with high efficiency.
limitless free heat... think someone can pull the old magnifying glass trick, ya know focusing the suns light on one point from multiple angles to heat water in a glass container with some tubing and an empty? stupid idea i know but mentioning it just in case, shame they cant do that in desert area but then you gotta buss in the water and that costs.
They won't be removing those drugs, they want a feminized and mentally ill population. Being able to recycle birth control pills in your drinking water is a feature not a flaw.
I call bullshit. There is no way filtering out piss, shit, vomit, dissolved pills, and drugs is any less expensive than boiling and filtering fucking seawater.
It might by the time you factor in all the environmental challenges.
When they built the desalination plant in San Diego County it got delayed by years from all the environmental challenges. Then they shut down the nuke plant they were depending on to power the thing.
Shutting down that nuke plant is so lame.. it was powering most of socal. Now energy bill is 50% more for using same amount
And I believe that plant uses reverse osmosis. Which is basically just a fancy word for REALLY FUCKING BIG FILTER.
Even they don't boil the water.
You'd be amazed.
Heating 10 liters of water from 20 c to 100 c takes just shy of a kilowatt/hour of energy.
You know how many liters of water a pump can MOVE with a kilowatt/hour of energy?
A fuck lot more than 10.
So while, yes, boiling and condensing water may do in one single step what would otherwise take multiple filtering stages, it simply takes so much energy to vaporize water that there's no way you can make the economics of it work. Not without limitless free heat.
That's where global warming comes in.
Checkmate, atheists.
The energy it takes to heat water is in kWh, not kW/h. If we're talking about actual desalinization through evaporation, don't forget the energy cost of the phase change, which is what takes most of the energy- just boiling ten liters of water already at 100 c takes another 6.27 kWh. So with the .937 you mentioned for heating from 20c to 100c, 7.21 kWh overall. Or in cubic meters of water, 721 kWh/m^3.
But actual desalinization plants recapture almost all of that energy to heat the incoming water, so the effective energy used is far less than that. According to this it's around 10–16 kWh/m^3 for multi-stage flash distillation, which is the efficient form of the evaporation process we're talking about here. But reverse osmosis is even less, at 3-4.
Description of multi-stage flash distillation from that link pasted below, because I found it interesting:
limitless free heat... think someone can pull the old magnifying glass trick, ya know focusing the suns light on one point from multiple angles to heat water in a glass container with some tubing and an empty? stupid idea i know but mentioning it just in case, shame they cant do that in desert area but then you gotta buss in the water and that costs.
They won't be removing those drugs, they want a feminized and mentally ill population. Being able to recycle birth control pills in your drinking water is a feature not a flaw.
I don't think they boil seawater. I think they pass it through some sort of membrane system.
Since that just removes salt, I assume they then have to treat it.