And actually, that's a big part of the distinction is that Western media is often applying it through a purely gender-political lens.
Making straight male characters total wimps, cucks, and retards. Making female characters all "strong" and "mighty". And of course embedding a wide variety of LGBTQ combinations into the mix.
And then occasionally they'll throw totally cringe and out of place racial themes in there too. "Oh, you couldn't possibly love me, because you think I'm just a filthy Orc! You racist pig. How dare you reject me!"
One side wants to put their weird fetishes in everything, the other side just likes artists to have the option to put whatever sexiness they want in what they're creating.
I'm not familiar with the Baldur's Gate franchise but it seemed like a lot of people went in expecting a game less horny than what they got.
The original Baldur's Gate was a masterpiece. It was very similar in tone and storytelling to Peter Jackson's original trilogy of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings.
A somewhat grim-dark fantasy world -- but depicted with more violence/gore than The Lord of the Rings. I loved the original game, as it was very serious and mature in how it handled its story and quests, and the fact that characters could perma-die ensured that you played smart and made wise decisions.
Then BioWare mucked everything up with Baldur's Gate 2. It offered more side-quests but was far more linear in how you progressed through the game. The large open-maps and design of the first game (which more closely resembled a much smaller version of Jagged Alliance 2's map) were replaced with more segmented and linear map progression, and they instituted the worst thing to infect gaming: romance.
The romance wasn't good, but it sparked a trend in BioWare games that has infected every other RPG since.
Leftists have utilised the romance trend in gaming to heavily push their Rainbow Reich nonsense under the guise of "diversity" and "inclusion". Baldur's Gate 3 took that concept to its logical end almost to a point of parody, where every potential party member you meet seems to instantly want to hop into bed with your character for no other reason than that you're the player-character. It's nonsensical and ridiculous, but it's an easy way for Lefties to lure players into accepting more of the Left's fetishes and normalising degenerate behaviours.
Baldur's Gate 3's romances were so ridiculous, though, that even some normies found it to be a bit too much. But because the game has received such glowing reviews -- much like how Baldur's Gate 2 set the trend for awful romances in CRPGs -- Baldur's Gate 3 will have even more degenerate Rainbow fetishes pushed into all RPGs.
They toned down how quickly it happened a few patches ago. Apparently settings were wrong and resulted in overly fast romances. It's pretty easy to avoid in general now.
It's the way in which sexuality is depicted. Anime depicts sexuality from the perspective of the man's ideal. Western degeneracy depicts sexuality from the perspective of the woman's ideal. The two are not the same.
I think with all things, it varies a lot. I might say I think men who simp are promoting an anti-male society. A woman might say, really, you don't think simps like giving virtual girls money to be cared for? The women are providing a service to men so clearly men want it so since men want it simping must be good for men...
But as a whole, these simps degrade men and their actions lead to a society that is wholly more anti-male than a society without simps so even though simps are men doing what these specific men want to do they are not promoting male interests as a whole.
So, I think there are women who desire the male ideal but from the woman's ideal, these women are like the female simps.
I believe the male ideal and the female ideal are not equal. The male ideal is objectively superior to the female ideal. Which is why in an ideal society, the men keep the women under control so that the female ideal is not realized.
I think the women in charge of writing this are writing the women as if they were the 1% apex men, or falling into the trap of the Golden Rule, IE 'Well, I'm attracted to this, so men must be too.'
It's when you get into the porn strictly for women that the masks come off, and they have their ingenue protagonist fall under the attentions of a borderline rapey dom/bad boy.
Since it's Anime and not Hentai, the difference is those situations ARE played for comedic effect. They are recognised as unusual and not normal by the medium itself and that's why it's funny seeing the mc in a situation that seems gay.
The left plays these situations straight, they can't take it as a joke because THEY become a joke by extension by doing that so they mostly say it is normal, nothing unusual about this'
As for fanservice in particular, boobs make people happier, it's a scientific fact, drawn boobs work just as much especially if the western equivalent is not as perky. But honestly Asia still recognise sex sells if it's a pretty girl so have at least one beach scene or hot spring to ensure you keep your audience.
most of the time, Japanese anime is meant to be sexually appealing to the viewer. Western animation tends towards "muh representation", as evidenced by the sheer amount of ugly characters they force in your face.
I will try to avoid a long diatribe to explain this as concisely as possible:
It's about intent.
As others have said, the Japanese have an intent to entertain. They typically do this by including elements such as comedic sexy moments, or comedic embarrassing moments. These are designed to either elicit laughter or titillation.
Western media's intent is about spreading a message and normalising degenerate behaviours.As others have pointed out in this thread, the scenarios involving degeneracy/sex is almost always played out unironically or straightforward with the idea of either depicting the behaviour as totally "normal" and "fine", or as inspirational/aspirational, which is why they never delve into the realities of the homosexual lifestyle (and as per GLAAD's mandate, not showing things like HIV/AIDS in a negative light). So these days homosexuals are never depicted negatively in Western media, not even to have jokes made at their expense. They're used as vehicles to preach to the masses.
TL;DR: Japan intent = entertainment. Western intent = proselytise.
i've said it before but it fits repeating, jews have killed every form of love except for "people masturbating each other with each other's bodies" in the minds of average people, and quality of media fanservise directly reflects that
in a western show you won't see a woman showing her beauty by making a pretty face, or blushing, or quivering her voice, and that's before getting to more trope-y fancervice stuff like boobs-in-your-face falling on someone, you'll see lubeless ramming done by two people who both look like ugly lesbians (sorry for reminding you but that one TLOU2 scene is like the golden ratio of degeneracy)
People are more sex obsessed, but having less sex overall than ever. It’s just another avenue to celebrate depravity. These people would be disgusted by monogamous heterosexual romance between attractive people, but they latch on and spread as much weird faggotry as they can. It’s infected a lot of games I like, Fear and Hunger for example is a hotbed of degenarcy, you would think it’s some kind of monkeypox dating sim the way people only want to talk about the male characters buttfucking eachother.
Good lord I wrote that show off instantly due to the blatant woke stuff rubbed in your face, but never thought it would get that bad. What a bunch of degenerate commies.
Sexuality in Western media is as if it went through the HR department
And/or run through an LGBTQ blender.
And actually, that's a big part of the distinction is that Western media is often applying it through a purely gender-political lens.
Making straight male characters total wimps, cucks, and retards. Making female characters all "strong" and "mighty". And of course embedding a wide variety of LGBTQ combinations into the mix.
And then occasionally they'll throw totally cringe and out of place racial themes in there too. "Oh, you couldn't possibly love me, because you think I'm just a filthy Orc! You racist pig. How dare you reject me!"
yep, either Yuri on Ice (which is pretty okay despite fujo shit) or okama from One Piece, don't remember anything in-between in anime
One side wants to put their weird fetishes in everything, the other side just likes artists to have the option to put whatever sexiness they want in what they're creating.
That's about it.
The original Baldur's Gate was a masterpiece. It was very similar in tone and storytelling to Peter Jackson's original trilogy of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings.
A somewhat grim-dark fantasy world -- but depicted with more violence/gore than The Lord of the Rings. I loved the original game, as it was very serious and mature in how it handled its story and quests, and the fact that characters could perma-die ensured that you played smart and made wise decisions.
Then BioWare mucked everything up with Baldur's Gate 2. It offered more side-quests but was far more linear in how you progressed through the game. The large open-maps and design of the first game (which more closely resembled a much smaller version of Jagged Alliance 2's map) were replaced with more segmented and linear map progression, and they instituted the worst thing to infect gaming: romance.
The romance wasn't good, but it sparked a trend in BioWare games that has infected every other RPG since.
Leftists have utilised the romance trend in gaming to heavily push their Rainbow Reich nonsense under the guise of "diversity" and "inclusion". Baldur's Gate 3 took that concept to its logical end almost to a point of parody, where every potential party member you meet seems to instantly want to hop into bed with your character for no other reason than that you're the player-character. It's nonsensical and ridiculous, but it's an easy way for Lefties to lure players into accepting more of the Left's fetishes and normalising degenerate behaviours.
Baldur's Gate 3's romances were so ridiculous, though, that even some normies found it to be a bit too much. But because the game has received such glowing reviews -- much like how Baldur's Gate 2 set the trend for awful romances in CRPGs -- Baldur's Gate 3 will have even more degenerate Rainbow fetishes pushed into all RPGs.
Are there any mods yet to reduce or eliminate romances from BG3?
They toned down how quickly it happened a few patches ago. Apparently settings were wrong and resulted in overly fast romances. It's pretty easy to avoid in general now.
It's the way in which sexuality is depicted. Anime depicts sexuality from the perspective of the man's ideal. Western degeneracy depicts sexuality from the perspective of the woman's ideal. The two are not the same.
I think with all things, it varies a lot. I might say I think men who simp are promoting an anti-male society. A woman might say, really, you don't think simps like giving virtual girls money to be cared for? The women are providing a service to men so clearly men want it so since men want it simping must be good for men...
But as a whole, these simps degrade men and their actions lead to a society that is wholly more anti-male than a society without simps so even though simps are men doing what these specific men want to do they are not promoting male interests as a whole.
So, I think there are women who desire the male ideal but from the woman's ideal, these women are like the female simps.
I believe the male ideal and the female ideal are not equal. The male ideal is objectively superior to the female ideal. Which is why in an ideal society, the men keep the women under control so that the female ideal is not realized.
I think the women in charge of writing this are writing the women as if they were the 1% apex men, or falling into the trap of the Golden Rule, IE 'Well, I'm attracted to this, so men must be too.'
It's when you get into the porn strictly for women that the masks come off, and they have their ingenue protagonist fall under the attentions of a borderline rapey dom/bad boy.
Since it's Anime and not Hentai, the difference is those situations ARE played for comedic effect. They are recognised as unusual and not normal by the medium itself and that's why it's funny seeing the mc in a situation that seems gay.
The left plays these situations straight, they can't take it as a joke because THEY become a joke by extension by doing that so they mostly say it is normal, nothing unusual about this'
As for fanservice in particular, boobs make people happier, it's a scientific fact, drawn boobs work just as much especially if the western equivalent is not as perky. But honestly Asia still recognise sex sells if it's a pretty girl so have at least one beach scene or hot spring to ensure you keep your audience.
forced butt ugly 'sex' appeal.
most of the time, Japanese anime is meant to be sexually appealing to the viewer. Western animation tends towards "muh representation", as evidenced by the sheer amount of ugly characters they force in your face.
I will try to avoid a long diatribe to explain this as concisely as possible: It's about intent.
As others have said, the Japanese have an intent to entertain. They typically do this by including elements such as comedic sexy moments, or comedic embarrassing moments. These are designed to either elicit laughter or titillation.
Western media's intent is about spreading a message and normalising degenerate behaviours.As others have pointed out in this thread, the scenarios involving degeneracy/sex is almost always played out unironically or straightforward with the idea of either depicting the behaviour as totally "normal" and "fine", or as inspirational/aspirational, which is why they never delve into the realities of the homosexual lifestyle (and as per GLAAD's mandate, not showing things like HIV/AIDS in a negative light). So these days homosexuals are never depicted negatively in Western media, not even to have jokes made at their expense. They're used as vehicles to preach to the masses.
TL;DR: Japan intent = entertainment. Western intent = proselytise.
i've said it before but it fits repeating, jews have killed every form of love except for "people masturbating each other with each other's bodies" in the minds of average people, and quality of media fanservise directly reflects that
in a western show you won't see a woman showing her beauty by making a pretty face, or blushing, or quivering her voice, and that's before getting to more trope-y fancervice stuff like boobs-in-your-face falling on someone, you'll see lubeless ramming done by two people who both look like ugly lesbians (sorry for reminding you but that one TLOU2 scene is like the golden ratio of degeneracy)
as for gay shit AnimeAnon covered it already
People are more sex obsessed, but having less sex overall than ever. It’s just another avenue to celebrate depravity. These people would be disgusted by monogamous heterosexual romance between attractive people, but they latch on and spread as much weird faggotry as they can. It’s infected a lot of games I like, Fear and Hunger for example is a hotbed of degenarcy, you would think it’s some kind of monkeypox dating sim the way people only want to talk about the male characters buttfucking eachother.
Wait, Fear and Hunger is rife with degeneracy?!?!
I mean the game itself is but I don’t think it’s supposed to be celebrated.
Good lord I wrote that show off instantly due to the blatant woke stuff rubbed in your face, but never thought it would get that bad. What a bunch of degenerate commies.