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Agreed. Lots of good ideas have come from philosophers and universities. The problem is how many bad ideas have come with them.
Schools and the like don't teach you how to think, they teach you what to think.
We like to quote the preacher, not read the book ourselves.
I would say half and half. Academia has brought about some of the most horrendous human atrocities known to man, and did so to create a world that preferred them over the layman. When you look at the most respected people in history, the founding fathers, etc. the majority retired into a simple life, George went back to farming, Jefferson went back to reading and pushing libraries and agriculture in the US. Franklin went to studies and travel. None of them went to academia or giving “educational speeches” to universities or corporations/ businesses. Modern academia doesn’t even normally allow debate anymore, which frankly was one of my major setbacks in getting an advanced degree because I ended up having to use family connections to make my department head back down after I embarrassed her publicly during a mandatory college event. Not everyone has that advantage or that ability to be so bold, which is why the “keep your head down and play along” strategy is the norm, this is however the complete antithesis of what academia and education is supposed to be. Debate is crucial, research not hidden behind paywalls are crucial, the ability to have discourse is crucial. We have not had this in colleges for at least 40 years now, and it’s only getting worse.
I’m currently reading Vision of the Anointed. Hard to believe that was written in 95. A very good critique of academia but like you said it’s half and half if you have professors who actually want to teach
Not enough people want to disagree.
It shouldn't stop until the idea that you absolutely have to go to university to be successful in life is removed from common thinking.
I, a millennial somewhere in my 30s, had one of my senior high school (when I was around age 17-18 for context) teachers actually cry when I was pretty upfront I had no intention to go to college.
This was unthinkable to her. How could an AP, IB student not want to go to college? I would have so many opportunities opened to me, no matter what I majored in, surely.
I said fuck that and have done well since.
"As a child I had been taught a code of conduct: I was to be courteous and considerate, and most courteous and most considerate of those less strong than I -- of girls and women, and of old people especially. Less educated men might hold inferior positions, but that did not mean that they themselves were inferior; they might be (and often would be) wiser, braver, and more honest than I was. They were entitled to respect, and were to be thanked when they befriended me, even in minor matters. Legitimate authority was to be obeyed without shirking and without question. Mere strength (the corrupt coercion Washington calls power and Chicago clout) was to be defied. It might be better to be a slave than to die, but it was better to die than to be a slave who acquiesced in his own slavery."
I'd say it works.
The fact that academics and intellectuals never take responsibility, much less punished, for their shitty ideas is reason enough not to trust them.
Not always true but becoming more true with time.
Well yes because "academics" aren't thinking of good ideas. They're poisoning people with bad ones. There's nothing inherently wrong with studying a problem methodically.
academics who only operate in academia tend to generate some pretty awful stuff. however, academic graduates who have worked and lived in the real world for a little while are where innovation usually happens.
Maybe not so much of extremely educated vs none, but rather sheltered and insulated vs experienced in work and dealing with some variety of people. Maybe? I guess I'm thinking a number of good ideas had to have been discussed and/or popularized among some academic types before gaining wider appeal.