No matter our differences, we can all agree that belligerent midwit atheists are the most insufferable of all cunts.
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This fucking myth just refuses to die.
Myth? I lived through it and around it.
My parents were absolutely convinced that Mortal Kombat was a satanic object meant to defile kids brains into killers and satanist.
Same thing with heavy metal and what is now classic rock. I don't know how it's being used now-a-days as a descriptor but it was almost 1:1 with tranny cancel culture of today.
Nobody got fired for joking about it, or kicked out of anything for being casually satanic. SOME parents prevented SOME kids from doing SOME things that was probably best for them not to be doing anyway was as far as things went.
"Parental Advisory" stickers were a marketing campaign and you are naive if you think it was anything but.
I was taught to play dungeons and dragons by a Catholic priest, and they did actually find dead kids under that preschool.
That wasn't the satanic panic.
The satanic panic was based around an idea that a whole bunch of people panicked over some sort of preschool that they thought was doing satanic rituals. And from my understanding, the "panic" wasn't that big, and the preschool (or whatever) actually was shady.
What limited reading I've done on it makes it sound like it was a proto-Epstein situation and accompanying response from the powers that be, where instead of smearing everyone concerned about it as QAnon, they were just called religious crazies.
Yeah, you're basically spot on.
Tipper Gore and Hillary Clinton's moralism wasn't part of the Satanic Panic, or even right-wing conservativism.
Just women acting like women with the systemic power to back it up...
The myth is that it was right-wing. Democrats were commonly Christian as well back then.
It wasn't attached to political views then, it was purely attached to religious views, which at the time covered both right and left.
Yeah I could reasonably accept that for the time.
I think the reason it has the "Right wing stamp" if you will now-a-days is because the progressive left vehemently opposes it and has more Atheist as party members. Thus, a new "Panic" would be inherently evangelical of which is nested under the GOP.
Now an interesting thing though is that around 14% and rising in the GOP are Atheist or Agnostic.
You’re mixing 80s and 90s. They were not the same. Easy to mix up when you’re Gen Z.
Are you implying I'm Gen Z? Lol. I'm on the elder side of Millennial trending more with Gen X.
Yeah, it wasn't right wing. Democrats tended to be Christian as well back then.
It's not a myth. My parents didn't much care about stuff, but my best friend's family went to a non-denominational church that did convince people D&D was satanic. It didn't stop my friend from playing, but he couldn't buy any of the books, and had to keep it secret.
Later his mom because a told SJW leftoid crazy. She went from one end of the crazy spectrum to the other. Actually, not uncommon. Crazies gonna crazy.
Looking at the D&D community, I'm far more sympathetic to that view than I was before.
There's nothing inherently wrong with roleplaying games per se. But look how how many queers there are in this hobby, more than most anything else. Look at how many choose tiefling as their go-to. Why are they drawn to it? Why are these groups so dysfunctional while others are far less so. Even by the standards of the modern era, rpg hobby circles are a fucking trainwreck.
I do think that roleplaying as an evil diety worshiper needs a proper prep and mindset if it is to be done at all. There needs to be actors for evil roles. But these people are diving into it enthusiastically, no prep.
Also, the hells in dnd are just the pop culture hell (inferno style with many circles) and devils named after actual demons. Rather than it being subtle allegory or its own invention. It's just hell.
And so I've come to worry about a game where you can roleplay worshiping devils, where the hell isn't creative, and where the community has fallen to being queer. More than any other nerd community. There's something to be wary of here. I at least wouldn't just let my kids go play it. We're having a chat first at the very least. That community is deeply spiritually ill.
I really don't disagree with you at all.
In the 90s, my memories of D&D were pretty much just that the same nerdy kids who played video games and were in to science fiction and fantasy ALSO played D&D. My group was 100% male (briefly had one girl, and her presence almost made the whole thing fall apart due to thirst), 100% straight, etc. We were just nerds.
We often had a kind of persecution mentality. The cool kid and girls and others at school made of nerds, so we accepted anyone else who didn't quite fit in.
And yeah, that's basically the story of how D&D turned into a hobby for social misfits rather than people who were into the roleplaying and fantasy elements. Gatekeeping would have been nice, but D&D was kind of set up, at least in my experience, to be anti-gatekeeping. We were desperate for more people!
Aka a lefty church. It wasn't rightwing.
The only people who ever told me that MtG and videogames were satanic were the same people who raised two faggots and had pay per view porn channels.
Don't think so. Could never do anything on a Sunday. Called Catholics non-Christian satanists. Thought D&D and MtG were Satan inspired. Weekly Bible study and Greek study, Biblical inerrancy and literalism, etc.
They were far out there and crazy, but I can't think of anything lefty about what they believed. Both the kids hate Christians today.
I don't think it's at all anti-Christian to acknowledge that there are some groups and sects that ARE a problem. Search for an Ex-Jehovah's Witness group for instance. Jehovah's Witnesses are, in my opinion, doing damge to Christianity as a whole.
Well, they raised one "bi" female who was craaaaaazy (and crazy smart) until she settled down in her mid-30s and married a dull normie. So there's that.
Unitarians aren't Christian.
Simple as.
FUCK Unitarians.
These weren't Unitarians. I don't know how common they are elsewhere, but these small house churches, often rent space in a gym or a stripmall or something, are pretty common across the south. They tend to be run by a charismatic preacher who preaches against denominations (while at the same time making his/her own church pretty much a denomination). A lot of variation in them, but my friend's family group one was pretty whack
No she didn't.
She started as a puritanical authoritarian trying to force others to submit to her cult and she remains the same.