Go on youtube, and all you can see is thousands upon thousands of videos with plenty of likes and support, decrying anime as misogynistic and sexist and whatnot. There is a lot of breadtube videos sharing their communist and feminist perspective on eastern media. An example is that mha video I posted before with 1.1 million views and 68k likes now. This is why anime should've never became popular in the west. Feminists genuinely need to fuck off. And there is also the popular sentiment feminists use when you bring up that anime made for women exists is that "female gaze" media doesnt objectify men and respects them as people and is about emotion and being well written, while "male gaze" media objectifies women (via camera angles or outifts), and is thus inherently misogynistic and toxic. Basically, male gaze = always bad and female gaze = inherently good and non objectifying. I saw a video where a feminist literally fucking said the anime free! (which features shot of boys abs constantly and is blatantly pandering to women) is just "using the male gaze on other men". Basically saying that sexualized camera angles and outfits on male character dont appeal to women, and overall camera angles and sexualized outfits on the other gender only appeals to men, but emotions and good writing is what the "female gaze" is (because I guess men are just sexist pigs and women are these enlightened beings, right?). Lmao at people saying that "japan is the most backwards and sexist nation", when americas top music videos and social media platforms have probably even more female sexualization, and also when africa and the fucking middle east exist lol.
And these people arent a small minority these videos and social media posts get a loy of likes and shares with shit tons of comments of people whining about muh soggy knees, this is what happens when anime becomes popular in the west.
Also occasionally sally out and burn their fields so they can't raise an army.
Preemptively mock feminism and belittle majority female interests wherever you have power/numbers. Ruin all the true crime podcasts and they'll be too busy trying to save the things they actually care about to waste time invading what they don't.
It was inevitable that it would become popular for 2 reasons:
The goal then isn't to stop it getting to the west and being popular, its to tell the left to shut the fuck up more. I'm seeing mixed things as on the one hand, you have Biden administration and the rest forcing LGBT shit through the legislation to start subverting the culture.
On the other, I haven't seen anime pander to the left, even with a gay relationships like at the end of Mobile suit Gundam witch from Mercury, that made sense storywise. Comparing all gay relationships in anime, NONE get to the level of Legend of Kora where it was 'they gay now'
I've also heard a lot of Japanese artists are getting off twitter because of the leftist freaks attacking them and onto their own platform so the cultural and language barrier is slowing any infiltration down. We just need to kill it in the source that is the West to stop the poison.
I'd also be careful going by like and viewcounts as a lot of it feels....artificial..
The platform you’re talking about is Misskey which works similarly to Pleroma and Mastodon (but not pozzed). And the people running the instances tell westerners to leave their moralfagging at the door or fuck off.
I enjoyed it way more back in the early 90's when you could barely even get anything (at least in Australia) and everytime you managed to unearth a gem you really felt satisfaction. The worst thing the popularity has down IMHO has been the proliferation of average shows and films. There's still lots of great stuff but yo have to wade through so much more to find it. But at least I don't have to pay $160 like I did when I imported the Akira laserdisc.
I agree, but for slightly different reasons.
Animation in the West refused to break the "animation is for kids/family content only" mindset (despite the efforts of Fritz the Cat, Watership Down, Wizards, and Heavy Metal to change that), and so stayed relegated to little-kid content for the most part. So the Japs took over that part as Western animation stayed firmly in its television-era Saturday morning mindset. We COULD have had a better industry here.
And the reason for that mindset is historical; it really dates only to the television era, but the Hayes Code didn't help either. The earliest cartoons were clearly made with adults in mind. If the Hayes Code hadn't been a thing, racy Fleischer style cartoons could have existed alongside the more family-friendly Disney, and the landscape nowadays would be very different. Hell, I can only imagine how Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies would have looked if they didn't have the Code to reign them in (they had no oversight, and did what they thought was funny. Jack Warner didn't give a shit about cartoons, beyond that they made him money. If they didn't, there'd have been no animation department. Hell, he thought he owned Mickey Mouse, and didn't recognize Mel Blanc making fun of his voice via Sylvester.)
If the Code hadn't happened, there'd have been no NEED for Japanese cartoons to be a thing in the West, and no need for Western amimators to have to go live in filthy dog-eating Korea.
I don't know, even if the Code hadn't been created, major differences would have appeared between Eastern and Western animation. Western animators seem to equate adult animated content with taboo sexual hangups or dark psychological stories like the Maxx. Japan is more idealistic and focused on beauty and overall more diverse in genre.
That's where the effect of television comes in, along with the tendency to equate "adult" with "forbidden fruit". The Flintstones and The Jetsons were aimed at adults, but Code-style restrictions on broadcast television. All this kind of warped the North American attitude towards animation in general ... the same kind of way that live-action porno bans warped Asian animation, withthe hentai and loli and hypersexualization in general (whereas North American cartoon characters have mostly been ... not necessarily anatomically correct OR exaggerated (we know Daisy Duck is a lady by her clothes and the bow in her hair, and eyelashes. Japanese would put big ol' mammaries on that bird. ;) Yes, I'm aware of Clara Cluck, but she was a Mae West expy.)
Oh, movie recommendation of the week: Unicorn Wars (not to be confused with Unicorn: Warriors Eternal, which is also really good, because Tartakovsky) I don't know what it is about Italian movies, but the two other ones I saw were bonkers, and this is no exception.
That makes sense, particularly with ecchi shows like Tenjou Tenge. Ecchi content is fundamentally adolescent, unlike the grimdark envelope-pushing in American comics like Watchmen.
But also the 1980s with Transformers, Thunder Cats, Macross, Star Blazers etc was also a point of aligment when contemporary US cartoons were pretty similar to anime. The merchandising opportunities were there for kid's shows, but they just developed in different ways. From that point Japan flourished with stuff like Pokémon and America had shows like X-Men and Batman TAS that explored mature subject matter but never got anywhere near the proliferation or complexity of anime.
That might have to do with the nature and structure of television itself, or rather how that's different from Japan, with regard to seasons, and ratings, and how they determine whether or not a show is going to continue. Japan seems to allow their shows to actually go on and on and see a conclusion to its story; American television companies are very cancel-happy. The structure of seasons doesn't help, either, and I wish they'd do away with the concept completely. There's nothing worse than a show getting cancelled just as the story has just started to pick up.
Gargoyles certainly would have been better if it weren't for seasonality, I think.
You are falling into the feminist trap of arguing about what does and does not constitute double standards. By doing so you are implicitly accepting the underlying premise of feminism that other than "minor" physical differences men and women are fundamentally the same.
You reject the premise because the reality is that men and women are fundamentally different. Genetic differences create biological differences create cognitive differences create behavioral differences.
The standards for men and the standards for women should be different in all aspects of life because men and women are different.
When they bring up "male gaze" or "objectification" or "sexualizing", which is a shaming tactic, you say "men like looking at depictions of pretty women." You don't need to explain further.
To quote, of all things given the topic, an abridged series aping a discourse between a weeb and normie: "You get up in our shit, boggart our style, do it wrong, and then mock us when we try to correct you."
More series should have egregious amounts of fanservice. "A little sister is all you need" has one of the most glorious opening 30 seconds of an anime ever, because it's pure concentrated normie-repellant, ensuring the rest of the series can be free from NPC taint. (Featuring: A man eating his little sister's eggs made into an omlette as she cleans him while naked with her used panties, milk fresh from the woman, gamer girl bathwater, necromancy, multiverse dimensional travel, and finally, almost a full minute into this nonsense, a very exasperated editor slamming the manuscript down asking "WTF is this?!" and then the series beginning properly with minimal fanservice and reasonable story arcs.)
I'd say this goes without saying but, no, it should still be said at every opportunity anyway. They're a plague.
Hahahaha. A lot of it is the same or worse than cherry-picked examples of "male gaze." You can't argue with a feminist, though, because they live in their own reality, where women/feminists are capable of nothing bad or wrong.
Let's just ignore that what a lot of men like about female characters is their personalities. Sure, being hot and sexy helps, a lot, but there are plenty of hated hot female characters. It takes more than "male gaze" to make men like a female character.
I love when they say stuff so straight up retarded. Also, not talking about that show in particular, but men don't mind buff male characters on their own, just like sane women don't mind attractive females. But that's very different than male eye candy to specifically appeal to women, or making everyone gay or gay-adjacent. But, yeah, there's no such thing as a (straight) "male gaze" on male characters. Because straight men aren't interested in men.
My favorite argument along these lines is the idiots who think the world would be a better place if women ran everything. Have they seen where that was tried? Doesn't end well. Again, the main problem in general, and a big break between right and left, progressive and conservative, is how they perceive reality. Right/conservative see things (more or less) how they are, left/progressive see things as they want them to be. If you try to build a utopia, while not acknowledging basic human reality because it's racist/sexist/whateverist...you're gonna have a bad time. A really bad time. Like, eventually, a famine/genocide-style bad time.
I know people like to go on about how "Japan isn't really based" or whatever, and there's certainly some truth there...nowhere is safe, and the infection is seeping everywhere. But, still, I really hope Japan can fight it off, as they still seem better in a lot of ways. Not perfect, but at least they're still homogenous, and still have some culture. There's still something worth protecting there, so I wish them the best.
Eeeeh, they're not as small as they should be, and it's being churned into the mainstream by so-called higher education, as well as social media, but these people are mostly just loud and perpetually online.
But, still, it's a good point. They're not as big as they appear, but they're also bigger than they were a decade ago, when plenty of people thought they'd go away. These people can't be ignored, even if they were just a tiny vocal minority. Because the cultural elites are propping these locusts up.
That said, I do believe the tide is finally turning. People are getting fed up, a lot of scams are starting to fall apart, I think the pendulum is swinging back. But it's still going to be a long, very painful trip, and these assholes will continue to be a pain and danger forever, even if we do eventually "beat" them. Cultural communism will always lurk within swathes of humanity, sadly.
On the bright side they do get push back in their comments. Granted Anita Sarkessian got pushback but that didn’t stop anything
That's actually fairly accurate from what I understand. The error you've made is equating the "female gaze" with being more sophisticated. While it's true that women do tend to be more responsive to emotional stimulation, smut written for women is every bit as objectifying as erotica for men. "Romance junkie" is a common term for women who overly indulge in such material.
What's accurate lol?
Men are more visual while women are more emotional, so fanservice which focuses on something like abs is actually more geared towards gay men. Take a look at Shoujo/Josei and you'll see completely different art styles, for a reason.
But thats the thing, Im not the one saying that, THEY are the ones implying that the "female gaze" is more "sophisticated". And youve mentioned smut written for women that heavily objectifies men, but they literally also deny that the "female gaze" is objectifying at all, and objectification of the other gender is something only reserved for the male gaze (they cite how media for men has ass and boob shots of women, but media for women doesnt have shots of dicks and ass of men). Here are the videos I was talking about
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZfCzdZZtP5g
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XhDRLHrcomk
As long as it stays culturally legal to make things intended to appeal to heterosexual men in Japan, anime will be just fine.
Yeah.. usa was like that 10 years ago...
Woke is an industry.
At least that’s how you know they aren’t real fans. What legit fan watches something for the purpose of being offended
If I start watching something and I don't like it, I just... stop watching it. It's not really that complicated. But then, they're more interested in being moral busybodies than enjoying anything.
Exactly!
I have watched Ecchi about anthropomorphized cans of soda. These faggots aren't on my level.
The problem is that it works.