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NY Times - “The problem with Ukraine having Nazi soldiers is that people may see that Russia was correct” (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by BidenIsAGroomer 3 years ago by BidenIsAGroomer +51 / -0
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– Norenia 41 points 3 years ago +41 / -0

The knowledge that they've been repeatedly bombing a region of ethnic Russians since 2014 doesn't help either.

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– RoccoRatchet 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

It must be tough reconciling LARPing as a Nazi with fighting a proxy war for a corrupt Western coalition that pushes increasingly deviant sexual degeneracy on you and your children. It must almost be as tough to citizens of said Western coalition to be told to mindlessly support Ukraine, and also that Nazis are bad.

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– RipleywasRightLV426 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

I do find it hilariously ironic considering that the Nazi's were vehemently against deviant sexual degeneracy and most of the books they actually burned were pedo or trans shit of the time. Like if you really wanted to LARP the only correct course of action would be turning your own gun onto the Western coalition overlords.

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– trump4044 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

They are paid LARPERs, just like when Israel paid Christians to assissinate the US ambassador in Beirut.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I think Ukraine is far enough in the periphery that they aren't as aware of the pedo push.

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– when_we_win_remember 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

All I can say is Ukraine is weird. Before these Nazis were fighting Russia they were fighting literal communists in the street. They're Ukrainian nationalists, which is understandable. I guess they're not so picky about who gives them weapons. I don't think they have much to do with the old Nazis -- they're not observant Nazis -- they're some kind of neo-Nazis who as we know are all over the place. Some of them are prison gangs, right? They're not all Hitler Youth standouts.

Another angle on this: You know who else likes skulls and lightning bolts and shit? Tough guys and wannabe tough guys. People who fancy themselves murderous, a lot of 'em look up to the SS. Sometimes patches are just patches on guys whose motivation isn't entirely political.

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– realerfunction 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

almost like russia's invasion is largely justified considering the history of the last 30 years

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– when_we_win_remember 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I don't feel a need to take a side in everyone's civil war. Which is what I consider Ukraine's situation to be. Russia's justification sounds, uh, fine. There are lots of people worth supporting in the world. People don't usually choose which war to go to based on the best justification. So I'm not overly impressed by Russia's escalation of the war, either. Like, I'm not sure that sending a tank column at Kiev was the best way to protect people in Donbas. I think you'll see that played out. At some point even good reasons become self serving.

Of course in Ukraine, we have a country that is not ready to negotiate. It ain't Russia that is saying they want to occupy all of Ukraine. It's Ukraine saying they won't give up a bit of what was their territory just now. All Russia can do is give up or beat on them until they agree to come to terms.

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– realerfunction 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

i'd largely ignore it too except the government is funding one side of the war at my expense.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Not ignore. But I'd rather the US offer humanitarian aid than weapons.

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– one_angry_gamer 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Careful there, you might give SupremeReader a brain aneurysm with those fighting words.

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– when_we_win_remember 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

As kind of a random aside, why do people feel like there are legal and illegal wars? Are you supposed to get permission from the UN? Are they the boss of all of us now?

I'm not gonna sit here and weigh people's claims, like I'm some kind of damned adjudicator. If you say you want something and go take it that's good enough for me.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Congress has sole discretion to declare war, so our participation in it is illegal in that way. The New York Times should be careful about what wars it calls illegal around the world given the US has not had a legal war since the 40's.

No one seems to care about this abandonment of duty. And given the military provably lies without consequence to the civilian-elected commander in chief (both Trump and Biden), it can be argued that indeed our government is at this point very literally an illegitimate junta.

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– troon_menace 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

When punching nazis puts you on the Wrong Side of History

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– Questionable 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-really-huh-gif-15522979

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– You_Are_Based 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

that Russia was correct

Hm aren't we forgetting someone here?

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– MonsterUltra 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This is the left prepping battle space to make it look like Ukraine have been the bad guys but not as bad as the "real threat" at home, namely political dissidents of the current regime like many here.

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– one_angry_gamer 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Commie larpers versus Nazi larpers, who cares?

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– deleted 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

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