Given Trump's penchant for supporting RINOs if it thinks it'll buy him support (which it never does because RINOs are disloyal to everyone except Democrats), I don't think this is going to hurt him this time around.
This is technically a reasonable requirement, but the whole "debate" system is hilariously screwed up, worthless, and outdated. This half of the uniparty controlling debates and setting rules for this tired format is only legitimizing the stupid thing for the general - where they get some corporate media stooge asking questions that the media and government have determined you are allowed to think about. "What are you going to do about climate change?" "muh gun debate", "debt ceiling?"
Then no one will watch the debates if Trump pulls a 2016 and goes 'I'm only here for me'. If anything this'll hurt Desantis more since he'll be stuck with mostly bottom feeders to debate with while Trump goes off on rallies and his own town Hall setups.
Wow, look. Once again the establishment works to try to prop up DeSantis and actively takes steps to exclude Trump. I wonder who the real anti-establishment candidate is?
The stormfags can go back to Reddit, Voat, and /pol where they've basically failed in every attempt to make an imprint on the culture.
They have been unbelievably supportive of destroying any dissident right-wing movement. Steve Bannon's grass-roots political system, anti-CRT school board protests, anti-transgenderism protests & boycotts are all "not real activism" because "there is no political solution", but support for literal fucking federal agents LARPing as EthnoNats for 20 minute intervals for photo-ops for the MSM is real activism. They're fucking culture war suicide bombers... targeting the right.
they've basically failed in every attempt to make an imprint on the culture.
Bullshit. There was the "It's OK to be White" campaign. Everyone knows what (((this))) and 13/53 mean although the numbers got much worse.
What's funny is that was just with some memes and shit. The GOP held the Presidency and both houses of Congress in 2017. There is little to show that ever happened. Immigration is as bad as ever. The outsourcing and crushing trade policies continue. Foreign policy is still interventionalist, and the pull out of Afghanistan happened under fucking Biden and a Dem Congress. Crime has continued to regress back to early 90s levels with help from the First Step Act.
anti-CRT school board protests, anti-transgenderism protests & boycotts
Anti-this, anti-that, what is any of that supportive of? Remember you accused me of adopting the role of heel, talk about comments that aged poorly. What even is the dissident right to you? The "movements" you are talking about have Manhattan Institute lackeys as major figures so I'm a bit confused.
You're hitting my point: a couple memes. And what has it cost you? Fucking everything?
You've been castrated on Reddit. Voat fucking imploded. Even 4chan has turned against White Nationalism, and you're still absolutely littered with fucking feds. Your best showing was an incident that did nothing but provide fodder to the Left, and hilariously allowed Milo Yiannopoulos to record Richard Spencer doing his best impression of the Red Skull.
From a purely pragmatic political standpoint, White Nationalism has utterly failed, not only in the US but basically everywhere.
And yes, you are absolutely being played as the heel. Your sole purpose is to smear the right. Not to fight against the Left, just smear the right. Your job is to show up somewhere with a confederate flag so that the MSM can take pictures of you and call whatever the event was: a white nationalist protest. Your job is to go to a Posey Parker rally and do the National Socialist salute to the applause of the media.
Yes, I stand by what I said: your job is to play the heel and make the baby-face Left look good.
Even the left in many European countries has to at least pay lip service to anti-immigration sentiment now so you're completely wrong.
Your sole purpose is to smear the right. Not to fight against the Left, just smear the right.
This is DARVO on your part. It's the kosher right that exists to help the left destroy white America. Listen to your boy Peterson. He openly says that it was seeing the alt-right emerge that spurned him to act, not anything the left was doing.
Ah yes, typical stormfag outlook: they're no good if they don't glow.
I like it when tools come here and use terms like "stormfag", "stormcuck" or some other variant of that reddit tier insult. Really saves time knowing their opinion is worthless within the first sentence.
"Trump didn't fix all of my problems, rebuild the early republic, completely end illegal immigration and bring about the second coming of Christ in one four-year term so I will never vote for him or anything orange ever again" is everything wrong with the right and the reason we keep losing.
Calm down Mr. MAGA, save this energy for the Desantis shilling threads. I'm just asking why not giving a damn about the presidency makes me a federal agent?
Doesn't matter, Trump will be the nominee, he doesn't even need to participate in the debates. No one gives a shit what any of the other candidates think, all of this is performative for cabinet positions (except DeSantis who is basically being paid by the Jeb!/Ryan faction of the GOP to torpedo Trump).
The billionaire businessman announced his decision in a raucous news conference at Trump Tower, the gold-hued skyscraper in midtown Manhattan where he launched his surging and front-running campaign for president.
"I have signed the pledge," Trump said, adding that he intends to win the nomination himself and face whoever the Democrats nominate.
"So I will be totally pledging my allegiance to the Republican party and the conservative principles for which it stands, and we will go out, and we will fight hard, and we will win," Trump said.
It’s not the sort of thing the law usually deals in to this extent, but I wouldn’t mind if there was a law saying the parties could change the rules/functioning of their primaries and conventions, etc. only every twenty years. Say, for an election in a year ending in 0, you can set new rules that are in force for that and the four following elections. Both parties just love too much to look at the ways things didn’t go the way their establishment wanted the last time, and change the rules to make it more likely they get their way this time. Dems do it, GOP does it, it’s fucked up.
Given Trump's penchant for supporting RINOs if it thinks it'll buy him support (which it never does because RINOs are disloyal to everyone except Democrats), I don't think this is going to hurt him this time around.
This is technically a reasonable requirement, but the whole "debate" system is hilariously screwed up, worthless, and outdated. This half of the uniparty controlling debates and setting rules for this tired format is only legitimizing the stupid thing for the general - where they get some corporate media stooge asking questions that the media and government have determined you are allowed to think about. "What are you going to do about climate change?" "muh gun debate", "debt ceiling?"
Then no one will watch the debates if Trump pulls a 2016 and goes 'I'm only here for me'. If anything this'll hurt Desantis more since he'll be stuck with mostly bottom feeders to debate with while Trump goes off on rallies and his own town Hall setups.
Honestly, I feel like Trump might want a debate so he can get a ton of free attention, while absolutely blasting everyone else out of the water.
Oh he'd love that, I'm just convinced he wouldn't support anyone else if he doesn't win nomination
Oh, he wouldn't. There's no chance he would, that's kinda the game: scam him into forcing his support to the Jeb Bush outta nowhere.
Best to keep him with his own kind.
Lmfao I missed u bby
Wow, look. Once again the establishment works to try to prop up DeSantis and actively takes steps to exclude Trump. I wonder who the real anti-establishment candidate is?
Neither of them.
Ah yes, typical stormfag outlook: they're no good if they don't glow.
Go back to reddit.
The stormfags can go back to Reddit, Voat, and /pol where they've basically failed in every attempt to make an imprint on the culture.
They have been unbelievably supportive of destroying any dissident right-wing movement. Steve Bannon's grass-roots political system, anti-CRT school board protests, anti-transgenderism protests & boycotts are all "not real activism" because "there is no political solution", but support for literal fucking federal agents LARPing as EthnoNats for 20 minute intervals for photo-ops for the MSM is real activism. They're fucking culture war suicide bombers... targeting the right.
Bullshit. There was the "It's OK to be White" campaign. Everyone knows what (((this))) and 13/53 mean although the numbers got much worse.
What's funny is that was just with some memes and shit. The GOP held the Presidency and both houses of Congress in 2017. There is little to show that ever happened. Immigration is as bad as ever. The outsourcing and crushing trade policies continue. Foreign policy is still interventionalist, and the pull out of Afghanistan happened under fucking Biden and a Dem Congress. Crime has continued to regress back to early 90s levels with help from the First Step Act.
Anti-this, anti-that, what is any of that supportive of? Remember you accused me of adopting the role of heel, talk about comments that aged poorly. What even is the dissident right to you? The "movements" you are talking about have Manhattan Institute lackeys as major figures so I'm a bit confused.
You're hitting my point: a couple memes. And what has it cost you? Fucking everything?
You've been castrated on Reddit. Voat fucking imploded. Even 4chan has turned against White Nationalism, and you're still absolutely littered with fucking feds. Your best showing was an incident that did nothing but provide fodder to the Left, and hilariously allowed Milo Yiannopoulos to record Richard Spencer doing his best impression of the Red Skull.
From a purely pragmatic political standpoint, White Nationalism has utterly failed, not only in the US but basically everywhere.
And yes, you are absolutely being played as the heel. Your sole purpose is to smear the right. Not to fight against the Left, just smear the right. Your job is to show up somewhere with a confederate flag so that the MSM can take pictures of you and call whatever the event was: a white nationalist protest. Your job is to go to a Posey Parker rally and do the National Socialist salute to the applause of the media.
Yes, I stand by what I said: your job is to play the heel and make the baby-face Left look good.
Even the left in many European countries has to at least pay lip service to anti-immigration sentiment now so you're completely wrong.
This is DARVO on your part. It's the kosher right that exists to help the left destroy white America. Listen to your boy Peterson. He openly says that it was seeing the alt-right emerge that spurned him to act, not anything the left was doing.
What's wrong the Confederate flag?
Go back to conpro
I posted here long before I ever posted on Conpro. You posted on reddit long before ever posting here.
What's conpro?
c/consumeproduct. It's where retards go to feel each other's balls and bitch about the jews.
I like it when tools come here and use terms like "stormfag", "stormcuck" or some other variant of that reddit tier insult. Really saves time knowing their opinion is worthless within the first sentence.
I'm sorry, what did you type? I can't read it through the glow.
How is not supporting Trump (a proven disappointment) and not supporting Desantis (a neocon darling) makes anyone a glowfag?
"Trump didn't fix all of my problems, rebuild the early republic, completely end illegal immigration and bring about the second coming of Christ in one four-year term so I will never vote for him or anything orange ever again" is everything wrong with the right and the reason we keep losing.
Calm down Mr. MAGA, save this energy for the Desantis shilling threads. I'm just asking why not giving a damn about the presidency makes me a federal agent?
I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to the glowie stormfag I was replying to.
https://communities.win/c/TheDonald/p/16bPLicHPq/the-desimptis-2024-machine--afte/c
I need to update this further with the new information of the last week, but I think it's a good read of what's going on.
Doesn't matter, Trump will be the nominee, he doesn't even need to participate in the debates. No one gives a shit what any of the other candidates think, all of this is performative for cabinet positions (except DeSantis who is basically being paid by the Jeb!/Ryan faction of the GOP to torpedo Trump).
Genuinely curious why you're so confident in Trump winning the primary.
He's the much beloved technical incumbent with a commanding lead; how is this unknown to you?
He's 40% ahead of DeSimptis.
Trump did the same thing in 2016.
Faux outrage or low-info Trump supporters, I'll let y'all decide.
Donald Trump Signs Pledge To Back GOP's 2016 Presidential Nominee
It’s not the sort of thing the law usually deals in to this extent, but I wouldn’t mind if there was a law saying the parties could change the rules/functioning of their primaries and conventions, etc. only every twenty years. Say, for an election in a year ending in 0, you can set new rules that are in force for that and the four following elections. Both parties just love too much to look at the ways things didn’t go the way their establishment wanted the last time, and change the rules to make it more likely they get their way this time. Dems do it, GOP does it, it’s fucked up.