I'm not sure how many times I need to tell you that women are absolutely useless - not just in combat, but in non-combat jobs - before it sinks in. More men will die if you draft women.
Don't like women voting for war? The answer isn't to draft women. It's to deny women the franchise.
We know. That's not the point. The point is the sexes should be regarded as equal before the law OR that there should be acknowledgement of men being a better fit for certain roles, and with that acknowledgement, an appropriate amount of respect and privilege afforded to them. My preference is the latter. We currently have neither. Forced military service is male discrimination with zero perks.
I don't think it's as cut and dry as either of you are making it out to be. Women are the ones benefiting from this gynocentric society, so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask them to sacrifice for it. Society can offer men something better than house nigger status if they want their help.
Of course, drafting women causes a ton of problems due to their malice and incompetence. Whether that's a solvable problem I don't know. Either way, allowing them to sit on their fat asses while men bail them out again isn't going to fly this time around.
What makes women stealing CEO roles because "we couldn't before" and men demanding they go to war because "we had to before" different? It's correcting the past for Equality™.
And women shouldn't be CEOs, or drafted. You still haven't made a good argument for how it makes any sense, and are just going off that you want to kill women. You genocidal moron.
Also, female draft is a fucking meme. It's hilarious because it's so stupid. The whole point is to twist progressives into knots, not actually draft women.
Furthermore, your reasoning doesn't even make sense. You'll never reach as many women drafted and killed in war as men, because men will still fight, and be drafted if not. And if you only draft women, and forbid men from fighting...you run out of countries before you run out of women, or reach your magic number.
Korea was/is run by a literal feminist cult. Like worship rituals and everything. Actual cult, religious cult, not disparaging term cult of personality cult.
I don't know how you find Korea kowtowing to it surprising. Of all people, I'd imagine you'd have known this.
South Korea is definitely a country where the birth rate "crisis" is women's fault and absolutely terminal because of women's desire to retain their privileges and inflict harm on men.
Remember when this guy said he would fight women's privilege? Fucking sell out.
I see South Korea is yet another country you've never visited, whose language you don't speak, and yet you've managed to be an expert in. Quite impressive.
Ukraine? Ukraine has always been very traditional. At the moment, it is still Democrats pushing for drafting women. And feminists support it because there never will be any draft, so it's a cheap way to advance the fiction that men and women are the same.
I'm not talking about the women from Ukraine but for the leftist I know, suddenly they were upset men were leaving Ukraine and seemed very ok with women leaving, even defended it - as they need the women to re-populate the country after the war. This was also what I've seen on twitter.
It is further cemented if you think about women suddenly getting pregnant before having to be deployed.
It is all fun and games as long as you do not have to suffer the consequences.
I'm not talking about the women from Ukraine but for the leftist I know, suddenly they were upset men were leaving Ukraine and seemed very ok with women leaving, even defended it - as they need the women to re-populate the country after the war.
To what extent is this support for the actual policy as opposed to their blind obedience to everything that the ruling class does.
If Ukraine started forcibly drafting women, they'd support that to. They have no mind.
That is a good point, you are most certainly correct there.
I still doubt they would agree with women being drafted in case of war if it is them, they agree only to the point they believe it will never come to pass. If war was imminent I am certain most women will suddenly discover traditional roles.
They definitely wouldn't agree with women being drafted for combat roles. Maybe they'd agree with a draft for jobs that are not dangerous and very far from danger, but even that is doubtful.
My confidence that being pro-drafting women is feminist is based on my belief that there never will be a draft.
Bullshit. SK is always at risk of war, and as for the US, there's DeSimptis who wants to "militarily counter the CCP" in Taiwan and Biden who wants to go harder in Ukraine.
They'll run out of naive volunteers for their wars and demand that single men go die to keep a pro-feminism regime in place. They can go fuck themselves. Whatever army fuck forces a gun on me will get the bullets.
I'm not sure how many times I need to tell you that women are absolutely useless - not just in combat, but in non-combat jobs - before it sinks in. More men will die if you draft women.
Don't like women voting for war? The answer isn't to draft women. It's to deny women the franchise.
We know. That's not the point. The point is the sexes should be regarded as equal before the law OR that there should be acknowledgement of men being a better fit for certain roles, and with that acknowledgement, an appropriate amount of respect and privilege afforded to them. My preference is the latter. We currently have neither. Forced military service is male discrimination with zero perks.
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Or we could not draft anyone? Drafting women is stupid and wrong. Drafting men is wrong.
Fuck that. All of women's talk about "righting past wrongs" by discriminating against men born way after their "oppression" killed that one.
When as many of them have died in war as men, then we can consider it.
Quit being retarded.
I don't think it's as cut and dry as either of you are making it out to be. Women are the ones benefiting from this gynocentric society, so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask them to sacrifice for it. Society can offer men something better than house nigger status if they want their help.
Of course, drafting women causes a ton of problems due to their malice and incompetence. Whether that's a solvable problem I don't know. Either way, allowing them to sit on their fat asses while men bail them out again isn't going to fly this time around.
And I wasn't implying it should.
Quit being a simp then.
What makes women stealing CEO roles because "we couldn't before" and men demanding they go to war because "we had to before" different? It's correcting the past for Equality™.
I'm not a simp.
And women shouldn't be CEOs, or drafted. You still haven't made a good argument for how it makes any sense, and are just going off that you want to kill women. You genocidal moron.
Also, female draft is a fucking meme. It's hilarious because it's so stupid. The whole point is to twist progressives into knots, not actually draft women.
Furthermore, your reasoning doesn't even make sense. You'll never reach as many women drafted and killed in war as men, because men will still fight, and be drafted if not. And if you only draft women, and forbid men from fighting...you run out of countries before you run out of women, or reach your magic number.
But they're already CEOs. You can't undo what's been done, we deserve reparations.
Again with this sperging.
By mass death?
What do you think is the correct value for all the male lives wasted because these cowards don't want to fight?
So what should we do? Because you know damn well "reparations" isn't going to happen.
Choke out the financial support they're getting.
Korea was/is run by a literal feminist cult. Like worship rituals and everything. Actual cult, religious cult, not disparaging term cult of personality cult.
I don't know how you find Korea kowtowing to it surprising. Of all people, I'd imagine you'd have known this.
The current leader ran on fixing this.
South Korea is definitely a country where the birth rate "crisis" is women's fault and absolutely terminal because of women's desire to retain their privileges and inflict harm on men.
Remember when this guy said he would fight women's privilege? Fucking sell out.
I see South Korea is yet another country you've never visited, whose language you don't speak, and yet you've managed to be an expert in. Quite impressive.
Why would he bother to learn anything about it. He already knows that it's women's fault.
They are literally in an unironic gender war there.
So, your gender war is ironic?
No, my point is that it's an entire country where men and women consider each other enemies. The good women lie burned out.
Maybe you should hold classes so that South Koreans can learn about their country from you.
It's almost as if when 99% of Democrats support drafting women, that drafting women is not something feminists are actually oppose!
That I disagree, I've not seen any statistics but judging by the women reaction to Ukraine it went traditional very, very fast.
Ukraine? Ukraine has always been very traditional. At the moment, it is still Democrats pushing for drafting women. And feminists support it because there never will be any draft, so it's a cheap way to advance the fiction that men and women are the same.
I'm not talking about the women from Ukraine but for the leftist I know, suddenly they were upset men were leaving Ukraine and seemed very ok with women leaving, even defended it - as they need the women to re-populate the country after the war. This was also what I've seen on twitter. It is further cemented if you think about women suddenly getting pregnant before having to be deployed. It is all fun and games as long as you do not have to suffer the consequences.
To what extent is this support for the actual policy as opposed to their blind obedience to everything that the ruling class does.
If Ukraine started forcibly drafting women, they'd support that to. They have no mind.
That is a good point, you are most certainly correct there. I still doubt they would agree with women being drafted in case of war if it is them, they agree only to the point they believe it will never come to pass. If war was imminent I am certain most women will suddenly discover traditional roles.
They definitely wouldn't agree with women being drafted for combat roles. Maybe they'd agree with a draft for jobs that are not dangerous and very far from danger, but even that is doubtful.
My confidence that being pro-drafting women is feminist is based on my belief that there never will be a draft.
If Ukraine did that, the whole world would support Russia.
Nobody's lives are worth as much as theirs in the eyes of the feminized society they created.
You can't distinguish the tail from the dog.
Bullshit. Who did the Pope meet after Meloni's birth rate shilling rally?
Zelenskyyyyyyy.
Your choices are enslave yourself to women, die in a war women pushed for (so women can profit) or actually stand up for yourself.
If every man, including those working in emergency services, refused to serve the demands of women, maybe we'd have a fucking chance.
If Italy's birth rate stays low, what they will do is institute forced military service and bachelor taxes.
I hope they do. It'll go like SK, where everyone hates them.
I don't think Dems actually want it. That whole thing was a bunch of political theater.
Right, they definitely want to die.
That was pure reverse psychology.
No one's dying because there never will be any draft, so that helps.
Bullshit. SK is always at risk of war, and as for the US, there's DeSimptis who wants to "militarily counter the CCP" in Taiwan and Biden who wants to go harder in Ukraine.
They'll run out of naive volunteers for their wars and demand that single men go die to keep a pro-feminism regime in place. They can go fuck themselves. Whatever army fuck forces a gun on me will get the bullets.