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NBC: White House calls for ‘thorough investigation’ into Jordan Neely’s death (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by Ahaus667 3 years ago by Ahaus667 +16 / -0
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– Smith1980 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

And yet when I accuse my friends and family of worshipping criminals they get so outraged.

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– dagthegnome 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

People can be convinced to support anything if you fill their heads up with what the world owes them.

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– Smith1980 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

True

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– coke501 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I mean, almost everyone gets outraged when they are accused of something.

I'm sure you didn't mean it that way. But if you did, it may be time to reconsider your approach. Accusations put the other party on the defense immediatly.

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– Smith1980 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

True, I said it in anger after long arguments. I got so sick of their posts about St Floyd and now this guy

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– coke501 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Just remember: You cannot reason someone out of an idea that they didn't reason themselves into.

Don't let it get to you. Stick to the facts and let them come to their own conclusions. Those that are reachable will eventually stumble upon something that finally breaks their brain because they cannot bear the cognitive dissonance anymore.

As for the rest: No amount of facts or emotional arguments will ever make them rethink their lives. The only one you hurt getting upset over them is yourself.

Don't argue with these people to win them over. Use the argument to test the strength of your own ratio and logic.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

They should investigate why that animal wasn't put down years ago.

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– current_horror 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

The fact that some percentage of the population will continue to struggle while under restraint - until they literally have a heart attack or stroke and die - cannot be used as a reason to never deploy restraints against anyone ever.

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– MegoThor 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Skip straight to lethal force. Problem solved.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

The call came more than a week after Jordan Neely, 30, died following an altercation on an F train. A 24-year-old man held Neely, a homeless busker who appeared to be in mental distress, in a chokehold for about 15 minutes. Neely was later pronounced dead at a hospital.

Yes the “mental distress” of screaming “I don’t care if I got back to jail”

Penny’s lawyers have defended him amid the outrage, alleging that Neely had a documented history of violent and erratic behavior as a result of untreated mental illness.

Yes he “allegedly” assaulted an old lady recently on top of his what 40 other arrests?

Representatives for Neely’s family responded Monday, saying Penny never tried to help Neely and had no regard for his life at all.

Why was Neely homeless if he had family? Where was their regard for his life and mental health before he died? Shameless fucking cockroaches

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– deleted 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0
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– LauriThorne 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

There's also video of Penny trying to revive him. They're just lying.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Yes, but he was held down for 15 minutes and as we see with every narrative conflating to the worst possible degree is by design

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– GhostBond 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Every time you start to see sanity:

New York City Mayor Eric Adams and Gov. Kathy Hochul drew criticism for their initial responses to Neely’s death.
Hochul weighed in on May 3, saying, “There are consequences for behavior.”

Someone behind the scenes shows up and insists the beating of the peasants must continue:

She seemed to walk back her statements in a news conference a day later, saying that Neely’s family “deserves justice.” Adams initially highlighted the right of subway riders to take action in certain situations. His messaging had changed by Wednesday, however, when he called Neely’s death “a tragedy that never should have happened.”

How would you describe whoever is pushing this behind the scenes, other than as evil?

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– coke501 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

when he called Neely’s death “a tragedy that never should have happened

well, he's not wrong, is he? There's a timeline with at least 40 distinct points where something could and should have been done. And probably infinitely more if we take the family, public schools and everything else into account.

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– GhostBond 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

"We failed to protect people simply taking the subway to work, let's look around...what 3rd party can we blame for our own sins?

I know! Let's blame the guy who did protect people!

Remember, you're never safe with us in charge!

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