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Marvel & DC went woke. So people switched to manga. (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 3 years ago by dekachin 3 years ago by dekachin +72 / -0
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– hungryfreaksdaddy 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0

It's so incredibly easy to get into manga too. Imagine that you've heard the hype about Demon Slayer, and are curious. Where do you start? Volume 1. Oh, and there's only 23 volumes. It finished three years ago. You actually get a complete story with an ending. There's no constant, mystery-box hook, story that forces you to shamble along, long after the story has gone stale.

Some manga go on forever, like One Piece. But most have some sort of ending, even if they might last for a decade. I think that we've lost appreciation for endings, as culture. It's all "content" designed to go on forever. No wonder manga is eating superhero comics' lunch.

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– Grant_us_eyes 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Writer and artist.

Who sometimes ends up being both.

I see some artwork in comics with the human characters looking like sacks of stuffed shit and think to myself 'Who the hell thought this person was worth getting paid money for this abomination?'

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Very rare cases where someone else comes on board is when an author dies(see Berserk as an example, 6 more days btw for anyone wondering!) and even there it's all held together by someone who knows how the author wanted it to end. They'll put their all into it so the original author wouldn't lose any honor because of it.

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– MargarineMongoose 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

That's actually the exception rather than the rule. Usually when an author dies the series simply ends out of respect for the author. See: Guin Saga

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– TheModernDaVinci 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

I think that we've lost appreciation for endings, as culture. It's all "content" designed to go on forever.

I actually hadnt considered this point. It is certainly one of the things I enjoy more. And I also enjoy that the overwhelming majority of Manga/Anime has endings where the good guys win and the bad guys are defeated. It's so uncommon in this day and age that it makes it actually worthwhile again, instead of just childish things. Its the same reason why I am getting turned off from Anti-Heroes a la "The Boys" (if its a Punisher "I am doing this because the system is broken" sort of Anti-Hero, I am still fine with it though).

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– dzonatan 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I think that we've lost appreciation for endings, as culture.

Absolutely not. The desire for resolutions and endings is always there, problem is those who keep the show going has financial interest to keep delaying it for as long as possible.

Franchises are not allowed to have satisfying endings.

Why? Because consumers will leave satisfied. Hard to keep getting money out of them if they leave satisfied don't you think?

It's something that has struck me as I looked back on Warcraft universe as a whole after Shadowlands and Legion ending.

We just couldn't leave Shadowlands happy and close book on it. Zovaal just HAD to drop this "what is to come" quote just to plant that itchy bug at the back of your mind. What is to come? The Void Lords? Find out later so keep paying attention to our franchise so we can have this tiny chance of you resubbing.

We just couldn't deliver a definite killing blow to Sargeras and close book on him. Sargeras just HAD to be imprisoned instead and the Burning Legion is, we pressume, scattered. What is to come after? Find out later so keep paying attention to our franchise so we can have this tiny chance of you resubbing.

They will keep moving the goal posts over and over again through plot twist or open endings just to keep you wondering what will come next. And if that will involve slow deterioration of the franchise until one last bit of engagement and good will is exhausted, then so be it.

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– ArtemisFoul 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Another egregious example was LOST. It was insanely popular so it kept just printing money, so they threw out the ending they originally planned and tacked several extra seasons on the show, with increasingly retarded plots. It's been a decade and I am still mad about the ending. Sawyer's dad called it out in the first season, and it seemed like a reasonable explanation at the time, but then there was a mysterious bunker with an old computer and a hydrogen bomb and Egyptian statues and a smoke monster and a pendulum and then in the final episode, HA HA HA NONE OF THAT MATTERED AT ALL, SAWYER'S DAD WAS RIGHT, LOOK AT US SUBVERTING YOUR EXPECTATIONS. Blergh.

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