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This is what caused the protests in Liverpool. The media has been working overtime portraying this as normal and anyone who objects is “right wing” (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by NotAGlowy 3 years ago by NotAGlowy +54 / -0
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– Assassin47 37 points 3 years ago +37 / -0

I do wish this would shock normies into realizing that far-right is nothing but a meaningless insult thrown at heretics, and then cause them take a second look at everyone else who has been identified as a right-wing bogeyman, but they never seem to get it. Yeah it red pills a few people here and there, but the vast majority always fall into the "No I'M not right-wing, you don't have to be right-wing to protect children!" trap.

Same with "I'm not a racist!" and "No we aren't anti-trans, we just don't want drag queens reading to children." Protestors literally said this not long ago.

In 2050 it will be "I'm not anti-MAP, I just don't appreciate my daughter's math teacher showing her how masturbation works until he's gotten her signed form of consent."

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– SoctaticMethod1 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Normies are like a herd, they stay with the herd no matter what and it's only when a leader pushes forward do they follow

It's why authorities and leftists try to stop any potential leaders gaining prominence because if they gain momentum they're fucked.

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– AntonioOfVenice 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Yes, but it's also important to underline that you definitely don't have to be right-wing to oppose pedos.

It's the way of the world that 50% of people will reflexively oppose any position that is associated with the other side. Which is why most people here opposed AOC when she said that Amazon should not get special treatment and a privileged tax deal to come to New York, even though she was 100% right.

So I try to make it as comfortable as possible for people on the left to take the correct position.

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– Adamrises 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Which is why most people here opposed AOC when she said that Amazon should not get special treatment and a privileged tax deal to come to New York, even though she was 100% right.

I mean, I think most people can recognize "give an inch, lose a mile" from having learned the hard way if not how obvious it is. That's why even when they are right, people don't want to support them as their solution is also a problem.

The same way most people can see the obvious problems with Cops in this country, from the gungho militarization to the inability to have any accountability. But if you even begin to agree with the ACABs on those points, they will make the situation far worse.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I mean, I think most people can recognize "give an inch, lose a mile" from having learned the hard way if not how obvious it is. That's why even when they are right, people don't want to support them as their solution is also a problem.

And I actually agree. In retrospect, I would not have supported homosexual marriage, because it just moved the ball further down the field. But the art of politics is deciding which issues are ones where you're moving the ball further down the field for someone else. I don't see how that would be the case here.

Also, I'll just add that most people did not make this argument, but rather 'THIS MEANS FEWER JOBS FOR NEW YORK'. Which is true, but not an argument in favor of special tax privileges for Amazon.

The same way most people can see the obvious problems with Cops in this country, from the gungho militarization to the inability to have any accountability. But if you even begin to agree with the ACABs on those points, they will make the situation far worse.

Depending on the race of the person shot, I'd say there is too much 'accountability', or rather railroading.

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– Adamrises 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I don't see how that would be the case here.

Almost anything AOC would do would simply put more laws on the book that would be loopholed for corporations and then exist entirely to punish small businesses and drive prices up for the rest of us. Very little actual damage would be done to hurt those who actually do need to be reined in.

I'll just add that most people did not make this argument

I'm aware. I think its become reflexive, wherein they know subconsciously the problem and immediately just jump to resist. In this time they are quite susceptible to the first explanation they see, which is always dumb shit from Right wing Grifters, and they end up sounding stupider than they are. T_D was filled with "right, with the wrong understanding" for years because of it.

I'd say there is too much 'accountability', or rather railroading

In the majority of cases, there really isn't. Chauvin was surprisingly not only because of how laughable the case against him was, but that he was a very rare exception. Even the "dindu nuffins" getting shot isn't enough to break their circled wagons most of the time.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Which is why most people here opposed AOC when she said that Amazon should not get special treatment and a privileged tax deal to come to New York, even though she was 100% right.

Was that here or the subreddit?

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It was the subreddit.

But still, negative partisanship is very powerful.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Indeed it does. The conservative media sphere is heavily invested in cultivating that type of brainless contrarianism. A lot of people on the right also have a huge ideological blind spot for problems stemming from corporations. They've spent their political lives believing that government attacks on private sector market freedom are the defining political conflict. They have a lot of cognitive dissonance to work through before they can see that "woke" shit comes from wealthy private sector actors as much as anything and understand the implications of that.

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

When the societal norm is to endorse evil, being an extremist is a moral good.

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