After the last 6-12 months, it’s clear that this stuff will never end…
Regardless of “vaxx rates”. Regardless of actual death rates. Regardless of logic.
They’re trying to push mandatory indoor masking, where I am, too, and it’s fucking Summer. It’s hot. Case numbers aren’t even high, and no one is fucking dying of this shit, here…
But muh “new variant” fear porn is ramping up once again.
I really don’t think I’ll make it through another year like 2020 - 2022. I’m already struggling as is.
I genuinely think that would be enough to completely destroy me. I’m not sure how many other people feel this way, but from the rare “lost all hope” news story, I would say there is more than a few, unfortunately…
Sweden jas the lowest excess mortality over the course of the "pandemic", at 6.7%. Lower than Norway.
( Apparently you were not supppsed to compare Sweden to non-Scandinavian countries, because it made lockdowns look bad if you did. When Sweden was vindicated even with this rule, Covidians simply pretended Sweden dosen't exists, or revert back to cherry-picking "recorded deaths with a positive test". )
Personally the last few years have been inspiring for me, particularly 2022. Having it affirmed that you're part of a spiritual and moral elite, and that all societal institutions are bankrupt, can be very freeing.
Of course that's not to say a return to 2020 lockdowns should be permitted. At this point it should be recognised as the overtly misanthropic declaration of war it really is.
Honestly… I don’t feel like much of an “elite”…
I spend enormous amounts of my time dealing with admin and crushing bureaucracy. It certainly doesn’t make me feel “elite” in any way…
I’m just so very tired. I’m tired of waking up every day and realizing/confirming that, as you say, societal institutions are bankrupt…
I dunno. At this point, I try to ignore this stuff, where I can. But if I get plunged into lockdown again? Or have my travel limited again?
Just say you're a full-time carer for a family member. That makes all travel trips essential, no matter how trivial (although I've seen what Australia and its pigs are like these days, good luck).
A sense of purpose is a gift and its own reward. Once you realise, as you seem to have, that this is an existential struggle upon which your own actual destruction might hinge, it makes life very simple in some ways. You've got the purest purpose a person can have, regardless of how empty this crumbling society feels. Lots are fighting the same battle, although the issue of how we stop being so invisible to eachother is one of the big challenges.
2- People should be free to assess their own risks.
3- Masks for the general public don't show a statistically-significant impact on respiratory virus transmission.
Thus not only are they infringing on people's rights, they are misleading people who are at an actual risk from a respiratory virus and may prefer to live isolated ( their life, their choice ), who will then think they are "safer" when they are not.
I'm not sure that imploring anyone to "live isolated" is a good idea, tbh...
I agree, "their life, their choice" - sure, but scaring people into isolating themselves, and living like that, isn't a good thing either...
So I don't actually agree with what you say, there. I agree that the masks make no difference, but I don't agree with your idea of "at risk", or that continuing to isolate themselves will help anything...
People are going to get it. Living as if they won't, after three years, is beyond illogical. It's insane. Besides, "living isolated" is not really being alive. Old people already struggle with isolation. Telling them to "live isolated", or even suggesting it, is thoroughly unhelpful.
So fine, on a technicality I was slightly off, but your argument is not really much better than mine, tbh.
In the end, I think we’re all largely talking cross-purposes here.
I was just trying to point out that this is utter bollocks.
I still don’t entirely agree with what Rouler was saying, though. But I think we can all agree that mandating this, regardless of where, and regardless of the reasoning, is utter bullshit…
I mean that's going to happen regardless of whether people are objecting to the policy because you're adding a vector for litter. Most masks end up in the ocean.
Fucking just start ignoring these retards.
They've made their ruling, now let them enforce it.
After the last 6-12 months, it’s clear that this stuff will never end…
Regardless of “vaxx rates”. Regardless of actual death rates. Regardless of logic.
They’re trying to push mandatory indoor masking, where I am, too, and it’s fucking Summer. It’s hot. Case numbers aren’t even high, and no one is fucking dying of this shit, here…
But muh “new variant” fear porn is ramping up once again.
I really don’t think I’ll make it through another year like 2020 - 2022. I’m already struggling as is.
I genuinely think that would be enough to completely destroy me. I’m not sure how many other people feel this way, but from the rare “lost all hope” news story, I would say there is more than a few, unfortunately…
Sweden jas the lowest excess mortality over the course of the "pandemic", at 6.7%. Lower than Norway.
( Apparently you were not supppsed to compare Sweden to non-Scandinavian countries, because it made lockdowns look bad if you did. When Sweden was vindicated even with this rule, Covidians simply pretended Sweden dosen't exists, or revert back to cherry-picking "recorded deaths with a positive test". )
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/sweden-has-the-lowest-excess-mortality-rate-after-the-pandemic-despite-refusing-to-lock-down/news-story/df50001366bb09b6a20421520cbfbf53
No masks, no lockdown in Sweden.
Canada has a 29.2% excess mortality. Masks, lockdowns, travel bans between regions, Quebec had several curfews.
The pseudo-sanitary theater dosen't reduce respiratory viruses. Instead, it causes a very high amount of excess deaths.
Personally the last few years have been inspiring for me, particularly 2022. Having it affirmed that you're part of a spiritual and moral elite, and that all societal institutions are bankrupt, can be very freeing.
Of course that's not to say a return to 2020 lockdowns should be permitted. At this point it should be recognised as the overtly misanthropic declaration of war it really is.
Honestly… I don’t feel like much of an “elite”… I spend enormous amounts of my time dealing with admin and crushing bureaucracy. It certainly doesn’t make me feel “elite” in any way…
I’m just so very tired. I’m tired of waking up every day and realizing/confirming that, as you say, societal institutions are bankrupt…
I dunno. At this point, I try to ignore this stuff, where I can. But if I get plunged into lockdown again? Or have my travel limited again?
I really don’t know if I can handle that again.
Just say you're a full-time carer for a family member. That makes all travel trips essential, no matter how trivial (although I've seen what Australia and its pigs are like these days, good luck).
A sense of purpose is a gift and its own reward. Once you realise, as you seem to have, that this is an existential struggle upon which your own actual destruction might hinge, it makes life very simple in some ways. You've got the purest purpose a person can have, regardless of how empty this crumbling society feels. Lots are fighting the same battle, although the issue of how we stop being so invisible to eachother is one of the big challenges.
I was in Galveston in 2021, and the tourism people that you paid to tour the Moody mansion demanded we wear masks in the old building.
I was not aware of this until I'd already paid my money.
No other place on the island required that fascism.
I walked out. Wrote it off as a loss and moved on.
tbf there's a whole park, but Asians will cram themselves into the valley anyways
True as that may be, it doesn’t make this shit any more logical… Again, this is outdoors…
It’s bullshit. They know it’s bullshit. And yet, still it continues…
I’m so fucking over this shit. Like, completely and utterly just… Over it! 😑
"It's outdoors" is not a good argument there.
1- The "rule" is for buildings and transports.
2- People should be free to assess their own risks.
3- Masks for the general public don't show a statistically-significant impact on respiratory virus transmission.
Thus not only are they infringing on people's rights, they are misleading people who are at an actual risk from a respiratory virus and may prefer to live isolated ( their life, their choice ), who will then think they are "safer" when they are not.
I'm not sure that imploring anyone to "live isolated" is a good idea, tbh...
I agree, "their life, their choice" - sure, but scaring people into isolating themselves, and living like that, isn't a good thing either...
So I don't actually agree with what you say, there. I agree that the masks make no difference, but I don't agree with your idea of "at risk", or that continuing to isolate themselves will help anything...
People are going to get it. Living as if they won't, after three years, is beyond illogical. It's insane. Besides, "living isolated" is not really being alive. Old people already struggle with isolation. Telling them to "live isolated", or even suggesting it, is thoroughly unhelpful.
So fine, on a technicality I was slightly off, but your argument is not really much better than mine, tbh.
Either way, this is dumb as fuck.
Counterpoint: Keeping the deranged fuckwits stuck inside and away from the rest of humanity is a net positive.
Tips 🎩 (I think), lol…
But yeah, that’s… Essentially what I meant.
In the end, I think we’re all largely talking cross-purposes here.
I was just trying to point out that this is utter bollocks.
I still don’t entirely agree with what Rouler was saying, though. But I think we can all agree that mandating this, regardless of where, and regardless of the reasoning, is utter bullshit…
I mean that's going to happen regardless of whether people are objecting to the policy because you're adding a vector for litter. Most masks end up in the ocean.