As a side note, every single day, governments around the world, regardless of affiliation, association and/or name commit acts of evil, and there are still people who still think they can control such an organisation to be beneficial. Unironically drawn in by the lure of evil to think they can do good. Power always corrupts. No, when "your team" wins, it will not be different. The only winning move is to remove power at every level.
What part of "Unironically drawn in by the lure of evil to think they can do good" was misunderstood? You're still thinking that this evil, if shackled or limited enough, will somehow produce something good.
Voluntaryism is the only way to go, which would not fall under the category of a government (which imposes itself upon people regardless of consent), but of free and voluntary association or organisation. Everything else is one flavour or another of "The Ends Justify The Means" or "For The Greater Good". Or some level of naivety that this time, despite literally every other time, it will turn out differently and the government will miraculously be good for virtually no reason at all.
And make no mistake, I understand that this isn't something that will happen. Certainly not in my lifetime at least. But the reality is that we will never get to "vote" on limiting the government. You will never get to choose how much of your income is taken, what guns you can have, whether or not you can just sell things you made. The only political choice you will ever have in your life is whether you submit to or reject authority on the individual level in everyday situations. That will sometimes risk consequences. Sometimes it won't. But that's the only real choice you ultimately have.
Any more strawmen of anarchy you wanna get out? Maybe a classic "without government, who would build the roads"?
Every single day you reject authority. Every single day you take care of yourself and your own problems, and if the only thing stopping you from murder is government, then you're an objectively terrible person. But every single day you take care of your problems, and you balk at the idea of being expected to take care of yourself like you already do.
But hey, what's stopping you from being murdered now? Not what happens afterwards, what is actively preventing you from being killed? Government and law is purely reactive and not preventative. Drugs, "terror", "misinformation", doesn't matter what the government wages war on, it always loses their preventative efforts.
PS, you can still live in a voluntaryist organisation/group/collective/whatever label you want. You can still have private security if you want to pay for it. You just don't get to steal the labour of others to pay for it instead. Anarchy =/= chaos, but statists cannot comprehend that.
I have a counter question: why are you expecting an ideology based around the opposition of forced central planning to provide a central planning solution?
The answer is, like all other problems, that you fix your problems yourself. Now, that isn't a nice flowery utopian answer, but that's the thing most people don't understand about anarchy/anarchist: We're not promising utopia like every other naive ideology out there.
See, the implication here is that a power vacuum would be filled by warlords, but there's just one problem with that: the warlords are already in power. So it can just as easily be turned back to you: what does a government do to prevent tyranny? And the answer is simple: it embraces it.
So you're full on anarcho-capitalist? That's pointless. People are social and so they'll maker social rules to live with their peers, even inside an organization. There will always be government of some sort.
People are social and so they'll maker social rules to live with their peers, even inside an organization
As they should have the freedom to do. Shockingly though, none of that justifies forcing any of that on anyone for any reason.
This isn't the "own" you might think it is. And no, voluntary organisation is not a government.
You wanna know something that is pointless though? Knowing, admitting and condemning that the elite are overwhelming some of the most evil people on the planet, filled with war criminals, pedophiles, abusers and every other type of scum out there, and then falling back into supporting that very system that empowered those people to get away with their injustices. You accept that the elite are evil, and when faced with what little free will you have left, you choose not to avoid picking evil, but explicitly go out of your way to pick evil of your flavour and then condemn others that want to stop picking evil.
Every single day you have anarchist interactions. Every single day you do things without government. Every single day you take care of yourself. You don't need the government there to hold your hand. You're an adult, not a toddler.
As a side note, every single day, governments around the world, regardless of affiliation, association and/or name commit acts of evil, and there are still people who still think they can control such an organisation to be beneficial. Unironically drawn in by the lure of evil to think they can do good. Power always corrupts. No, when "your team" wins, it will not be different. The only winning move is to remove power at every level.
Government should be as local as practical: subsidiarity is perhaps the one thing one can salvage out of Distributism.
What part of "Unironically drawn in by the lure of evil to think they can do good" was misunderstood? You're still thinking that this evil, if shackled or limited enough, will somehow produce something good.
Voluntaryism is the only way to go, which would not fall under the category of a government (which imposes itself upon people regardless of consent), but of free and voluntary association or organisation. Everything else is one flavour or another of "The Ends Justify The Means" or "For The Greater Good". Or some level of naivety that this time, despite literally every other time, it will turn out differently and the government will miraculously be good for virtually no reason at all.
And make no mistake, I understand that this isn't something that will happen. Certainly not in my lifetime at least. But the reality is that we will never get to "vote" on limiting the government. You will never get to choose how much of your income is taken, what guns you can have, whether or not you can just sell things you made. The only political choice you will ever have in your life is whether you submit to or reject authority on the individual level in everyday situations. That will sometimes risk consequences. Sometimes it won't. But that's the only real choice you ultimately have.
Anarchism is hardly better that governance.
"Can I kill Joe?"
"Yeah, don't want to restrict your rights. His family might come after you though."
"If I'm rich enough, can I just kill Joe and his entire extended family, then?"
"Oh yes, of course. Murder is cheap and commonplace, after all, it's an easy skill to acquire, and no laws against it."
Any more strawmen of anarchy you wanna get out? Maybe a classic "without government, who would build the roads"?
Every single day you reject authority. Every single day you take care of yourself and your own problems, and if the only thing stopping you from murder is government, then you're an objectively terrible person. But every single day you take care of your problems, and you balk at the idea of being expected to take care of yourself like you already do.
But hey, what's stopping you from being murdered now? Not what happens afterwards, what is actively preventing you from being killed? Government and law is purely reactive and not preventative. Drugs, "terror", "misinformation", doesn't matter what the government wages war on, it always loses their preventative efforts.
PS, you can still live in a voluntaryist organisation/group/collective/whatever label you want. You can still have private security if you want to pay for it. You just don't get to steal the labour of others to pay for it instead. Anarchy =/= chaos, but statists cannot comprehend that.
I have a counter question: why are you expecting an ideology based around the opposition of forced central planning to provide a central planning solution?
The answer is, like all other problems, that you fix your problems yourself. Now, that isn't a nice flowery utopian answer, but that's the thing most people don't understand about anarchy/anarchist: We're not promising utopia like every other naive ideology out there.
See, the implication here is that a power vacuum would be filled by warlords, but there's just one problem with that: the warlords are already in power. So it can just as easily be turned back to you: what does a government do to prevent tyranny? And the answer is simple: it embraces it.
Anarchism is to Individualism what Socialism is to Collectivism.
Just don't think about all the ways human nature will screw things over and they'll work perfectly!
So you're full on anarcho-capitalist? That's pointless. People are social and so they'll maker social rules to live with their peers, even inside an organization. There will always be government of some sort.
As they should have the freedom to do. Shockingly though, none of that justifies forcing any of that on anyone for any reason.
This isn't the "own" you might think it is. And no, voluntary organisation is not a government.
You wanna know something that is pointless though? Knowing, admitting and condemning that the elite are overwhelming some of the most evil people on the planet, filled with war criminals, pedophiles, abusers and every other type of scum out there, and then falling back into supporting that very system that empowered those people to get away with their injustices. You accept that the elite are evil, and when faced with what little free will you have left, you choose not to avoid picking evil, but explicitly go out of your way to pick evil of your flavour and then condemn others that want to stop picking evil.
Every single day you have anarchist interactions. Every single day you do things without government. Every single day you take care of yourself. You don't need the government there to hold your hand. You're an adult, not a toddler.