The [innocent people minding their own business and trying to make a better life for themselves] suck considerably less than the [bloodthirsty tyrant and mass murderer who lusts after the restoration of the Soviet Union through wars of aggression].
stupid border disputes
It's not a "border dispute" when Russia tried to conquer the whole of Ukraine and invaded west of the Dniper through Belarus. It's a war of conquest that failed.
Bro, the narrative for years before Russia invaded was that Ukraine was a massively corrupt country ran by a fucking clown. Seriously, it's weird how everyone seemed to forget the whole "energy board having Hunter Biden on it's payroll" and "Joe Biden making threats to the country if they didn't drop the investigation". It's only lately that Ukraine has turned into Our Greatest Ally™. Zelenskyy isn't going to send your perogies for simping.
Zelensky was elected in 2019, and "before Russia invaded" it was ruled by Yanukovych (who is still in Moscow and will never return because everyone hates him there above all lines).
wow that sounds so much worse than invading another country and mass murdering innocent civilians with artillery as well as by gunning them down in the streets.
What are you talking about? I thought that Ukraine was winning the war and Putin was a dumb meanie poopoo head with a monkey face sending his own people to die in cope cages. Which is it?
Damn, I haven't been paying much attention in the last week or so, but given the renewed level of seething and coping from SR I'm guessing it's going just swimmingly. Two more weeks to Moscow, perhaps?
Oh, you meant the Bolshevism. Well I don't know about Lenin personally, but a lot of Russian revolutionaries in general have been proudly calling themselves terrorists.
Anyway, after the Bolsheviks seized power, they justified the Red Terror by the threat of terrorism (it officially started after one of their leaders was assassinated).
They were also creating fake terrorist organizations to catch the mentioned real old school terrorists from rival ideologies (Operation Trust).
Later, during the show trial era, the usual charge was a participation in a secret (and non-existent) anti-Soviet terrorist organization, in addition to being a foreign (British, German, Polish, Japanese) spy.
A lot of this is reflected in the plot of 1984 where Winston is recruited (and then recruits his gf) into a fake terrorist group to fight the Party by any means.
Unfortunately, I don't have the quote handy, but yes, Lenin was quite blunt about his aims and methods. The "dictatorship of the proletariat" is another thing he was quite in favour of, iirc.
Just another "When somebody tells you what they are, believe them" one, I think.
They quickly made a difference between the state terror, as in the Red Terror (their own name), which was good and directed against the enemies of the People, and the sinister anti-state terrorism and they wouldn't classify their own revolutionary activities as such in official literature because of that.
There was actually remarkably little being talked about the revolutionary era Russia, not least because the Bolsheviks have been only a minor force before their sudden coup but also because how many then fell to internal purges and power struggles so their contributions were erased just like they were being famously removed from group photos (the Death of Stalin end credits montage is a really amusing take on this practice: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Cr0BJpKMvEc).
Call me whatever names you want. You're still unhinged on the Russia/Ukraine war.
Both sides suck and I want out of stupid border disputes on the other side of the planet.
The [innocent people minding their own business and trying to make a better life for themselves] suck considerably less than the [bloodthirsty tyrant and mass murderer who lusts after the restoration of the Soviet Union through wars of aggression].
It's not a "border dispute" when Russia tried to conquer the whole of Ukraine and invaded west of the Dniper through Belarus. It's a war of conquest that failed.
Bro, the narrative for years before Russia invaded was that Ukraine was a massively corrupt country ran by a fucking clown. Seriously, it's weird how everyone seemed to forget the whole "energy board having Hunter Biden on it's payroll" and "Joe Biden making threats to the country if they didn't drop the investigation". It's only lately that Ukraine has turned into Our Greatest Ally™. Zelenskyy isn't going to send your perogies for simping.
Zelensky was elected in 2019, and "before Russia invaded" it was ruled by Yanukovych (who is still in Moscow and will never return because everyone hates him there above all lines).
wow that sounds so much worse than invading another country and mass murdering innocent civilians with artillery as well as by gunning them down in the streets.
What are you talking about? I thought that Ukraine was winning the war and Putin was a dumb meanie poopoo head with a monkey face sending his own people to die in cope cages. Which is it?
Russia is losing but they still manage to murder some little babushkas with their indiscriminate attacks on civilian areas.
This isn't a serious reply. I'm not going to bother to give a serious response to an unserious reply.
So instead: NO U.
Is this reddit with obvious vote baiting?
"DEA anyone else..." Fuck off.
Faggot
I am going to downvote and comment because of your utterly retarded battle lines you have drawn. I give no fucks about these dumbasses
You can't tell me what to do!
Damn, I haven't been paying much attention in the last week or so, but given the renewed level of seething and coping from SR I'm guessing it's going just swimmingly. Two more weeks to Moscow, perhaps?
Which one you are, a comrade or just a fellow traveller idiot?
Слава партии, слава Ленину!
One of the first examples of what happens when a terrorist insurgency wins
Elaborate, comrade.
Lenin was a self-admitted terrorist, was he not?
Oh, you meant the Bolshevism. Well I don't know about Lenin personally, but a lot of Russian revolutionaries in general have been proudly calling themselves terrorists.
Anyway, after the Bolsheviks seized power, they justified the Red Terror by the threat of terrorism (it officially started after one of their leaders was assassinated).
They were also creating fake terrorist organizations to catch the mentioned real old school terrorists from rival ideologies (Operation Trust).
Later, during the show trial era, the usual charge was a participation in a secret (and non-existent) anti-Soviet terrorist organization, in addition to being a foreign (British, German, Polish, Japanese) spy.
A lot of this is reflected in the plot of 1984 where Winston is recruited (and then recruits his gf) into a fake terrorist group to fight the Party by any means.
Unfortunately, I don't have the quote handy, but yes, Lenin was quite blunt about his aims and methods. The "dictatorship of the proletariat" is another thing he was quite in favour of, iirc.
Just another "When somebody tells you what they are, believe them" one, I think.
They quickly made a difference between the state terror, as in the Red Terror (their own name), which was good and directed against the enemies of the People, and the sinister anti-state terrorism and they wouldn't classify their own revolutionary activities as such in official literature because of that.
There was actually remarkably little being talked about the revolutionary era Russia, not least because the Bolsheviks have been only a minor force before their sudden coup but also because how many then fell to internal purges and power struggles so their contributions were erased just like they were being famously removed from group photos (the Death of Stalin end credits montage is a really amusing take on this practice: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Cr0BJpKMvEc).