Someone smarten me up on fentanyl. I know that very small doses can be lethal and I keep seeing stories where people die from other drugs tainted with fentanyl without their knowledge.
Are there actual recreational drug users of fentanyl in and of itself and they just have to keep the dose super small? Why are dealers putting it in other drugs? Seems to me that killing your customers is a bad business decision and attracts attention from the cops.
Fentanyl is like a stronger heroin. Apparently it's cheaper than cocaine, and more addictive. It makes sense to want to add it to cocaine to boost addiction and sales.
To add to that, what happened is people got hooked on really strong opioids that were made for prescription. That shit used to be widely, widely available, and if you couldn't just get an Rx you could make it from commonly available substances in a WalMart bathroom if you had to.
The government really cracked down on that. Not just the US government, but governments of places where opioids were being mass produced controlled the supply of precursors.
So you have a bunch of addicted people all of the sudden hurting for a fix. They started doing heroin, but the government even cracked down on that. Slash supply and demand made it expensive. So enter fentanyl. Can be mass produced in China and smuggled in. Ridiculously potent, so those shipments go a long way.
Junkies will do anything for a fix. It's absurdly hard to kick.
Uh-huh. Here in Canada, up to 8 mg of codeine can be had over-the-counter (Tylenol 1s). They started tracking this a few years ago, so that people can't go from store to store collecting a million of the things; that's how a lot of people here got hooked.
You can still get T1s over the counter, though. But I doubt they sell it in lots of 100 and 200 any more, like they used to.
Many poisons have a very thin line between "effective" and "lethal dose". Even aspirin can give you liver damage if you take merely one or two pills more than the recommended daily dose, if you're a smaller person.
If they're hardcore addicts, they've developed a resistance and take both more to get a high, and to be injured from too much. But if they're small, the dosage must also be less. Balance it out with pen and paper, and make sure the crackhead knows to not take two hits in X hours, it's honestly surprising to me that so few are suddenly keeling over.
Maybe the ones that die are a minority and the majority just become addicted, thus the ones that die being acceptable losses ?
Could also be a screw up on a dealer's part when mixing quantities, maybe 2 different people added the right amount of fentanyl thus doubling the recommended dose. Maybe those "customers" just were considered a liability and drug overdose is more discreet than bullet to the brain.
These customers don't seem like the high paying types that you would want to make sure you keep safe so their money keeps coming in so I don't expect their drugs to be that carefully handled.
Someone smarten me up on fentanyl. I know that very small doses can be lethal and I keep seeing stories where people die from other drugs tainted with fentanyl without their knowledge.
Are there actual recreational drug users of fentanyl in and of itself and they just have to keep the dose super small? Why are dealers putting it in other drugs? Seems to me that killing your customers is a bad business decision and attracts attention from the cops.
Fentanyl is like a stronger heroin. Apparently it's cheaper than cocaine, and more addictive. It makes sense to want to add it to cocaine to boost addiction and sales.
Ah, thanks. Good explanation.
To add to that, what happened is people got hooked on really strong opioids that were made for prescription. That shit used to be widely, widely available, and if you couldn't just get an Rx you could make it from commonly available substances in a WalMart bathroom if you had to.
The government really cracked down on that. Not just the US government, but governments of places where opioids were being mass produced controlled the supply of precursors.
So you have a bunch of addicted people all of the sudden hurting for a fix. They started doing heroin, but the government even cracked down on that. Slash supply and demand made it expensive. So enter fentanyl. Can be mass produced in China and smuggled in. Ridiculously potent, so those shipments go a long way.
Junkies will do anything for a fix. It's absurdly hard to kick.
Uh-huh. Here in Canada, up to 8 mg of codeine can be had over-the-counter (Tylenol 1s). They started tracking this a few years ago, so that people can't go from store to store collecting a million of the things; that's how a lot of people here got hooked.
You can still get T1s over the counter, though. But I doubt they sell it in lots of 100 and 200 any more, like they used to.
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Many poisons have a very thin line between "effective" and "lethal dose". Even aspirin can give you liver damage if you take merely one or two pills more than the recommended daily dose, if you're a smaller person.
If they're hardcore addicts, they've developed a resistance and take both more to get a high, and to be injured from too much. But if they're small, the dosage must also be less. Balance it out with pen and paper, and make sure the crackhead knows to not take two hits in X hours, it's honestly surprising to me that so few are suddenly keeling over.
Maybe the ones that die are a minority and the majority just become addicted, thus the ones that die being acceptable losses ?
Could also be a screw up on a dealer's part when mixing quantities, maybe 2 different people added the right amount of fentanyl thus doubling the recommended dose. Maybe those "customers" just were considered a liability and drug overdose is more discreet than bullet to the brain.
These customers don't seem like the high paying types that you would want to make sure you keep safe so their money keeps coming in so I don't expect their drugs to be that carefully handled.