Why should anyone believe you'll ever have a legitimate election ever again?
Here's the Zuck, on video, telling you that a government agency instructed them to massively, illegitimately influence the election.
The next republican president would be fully justified in purging the organization. ...So why the hell would they ever allow another Republican ever again, unless he's been vetted as a puppet?
It's over. It's DONE. The USA you knew is fucking GONE. There's no way to ever have confidence in the legitimacy of its democracy again.
At this point, it seems as if the US government does not want to be legitimate. It'd prefer by far to be predictable - and those pesky voters keep on choosing the wrong candidate for that!
This all seems to feed into this "managed decline" mantra that's completely captured my government and yours, convincing the both of them that the government's role is to quietly and efficiency put our nations out of business for the benefit of every other human on the planet, our own wishes be damned.
Who cares about being legitimate? People are glued to their TV to watch the big game and chomp down on Doritos with cholesterol and hypertension med chasers. Will other countries stop trading with the US, or refuse to recognize the government, or treat them like they deserve? No.
The theft happened in front of everyone's eyes. The people who are honored with special holidays, honors, perks, connections, even sacred graves for joining a volunteer military, whose job it is to stop exactly this, shrugged and did nothing: "It's just a job." And anyone who even dared to march against it is now in solitary confinement in cells with toilets backing up raw sewage and black mold covering the walls.
And without that critical mass of people willing to do something, the number of people to shift such operations from suicide missions to something with an actual chance of success, it will never get solved.
Him donning the little hat and visiting the wailing wall first thing when he becomes POTUS... Pardoning Israeli spies right before he leaves... Refusing to help 1/6 detainees AT ALL... Surrounding himself with swamp creatures and not only not draining the swamp, but increasing it while in office...
Despite all that, you think him winning in 2024 will turn things around?
I have some beach front property in Montana I'm selling. It's a great deal. I'm sure somebody as gullible as you would be interested.
Why on earth would you think that Trump is capable of changing Washington or even wants to? He had four years and failed. Either he tried and was stymied, or he didn't actually bother to do so. My best guess is a bit of both.
Remember that Trump was president when the FBI told Facebook to suppress the laptop story.
Yeah because the 3 letter agencies give zero shits. They were openly in revolt his entire presidency. Whoever becomes president needs to go scorched earth on them and anyone that complains about it
Because you only get to do it once. The nukes have already been fired. The sneak attack has already happened. You dont get to do it again, and the enemy now knows what you are going to do. Now, the Dems have been on the backfoot for almost every election done since 2020, and they have been losing by margins taht were considered unlikely at best even just a few years ago. To save their political power now, they screwed themselves in the future.
Its not the first time its ever happened in US History. Andrew Jackson was screwed out of the presidency in 1828 by John Quincy Adams. He won far more states and a large chunk of the electorate, but political machinations in Congress used loopholes to crown Adams the winner. Instead of this being some smooth thing and Jackson slinking away, he came out roaring mad. And come the 1830 Midterm, he ended up clearing out Congress of everyone who had screwed him and winning many other areas thought impossible. Then come 1832, he beat Adams in a crushing victory.
There is nothing to say it can happen again. Especially when the off-elections have been favoring MAGA Republicans by an almost absurd degree. And every attempt of the FBI and other types to stop it just makes the fire grow.
Why should anyone believe you'll ever have a legitimate election ever again?
Here's the Zuck, on video, telling you that a government agency instructed them to massively, illegitimately influence the election.
The next republican president would be fully justified in purging the organization. ...So why the hell would they ever allow another Republican ever again, unless he's been vetted as a puppet?
It's over. It's DONE. The USA you knew is fucking GONE. There's no way to ever have confidence in the legitimacy of its democracy again.
At this point, it seems as if the US government does not want to be legitimate. It'd prefer by far to be predictable - and those pesky voters keep on choosing the wrong candidate for that!
This all seems to feed into this "managed decline" mantra that's completely captured my government and yours, convincing the both of them that the government's role is to quietly and efficiency put our nations out of business for the benefit of every other human on the planet, our own wishes be damned.
Who cares about being legitimate? People are glued to their TV to watch the big game and chomp down on Doritos with cholesterol and hypertension med chasers. Will other countries stop trading with the US, or refuse to recognize the government, or treat them like they deserve? No.
The theft happened in front of everyone's eyes. The people who are honored with special holidays, honors, perks, connections, even sacred graves for joining a volunteer military, whose job it is to stop exactly this, shrugged and did nothing: "It's just a job." And anyone who even dared to march against it is now in solitary confinement in cells with toilets backing up raw sewage and black mold covering the walls.
And without that critical mass of people willing to do something, the number of people to shift such operations from suicide missions to something with an actual chance of success, it will never get solved.
Short of Trump winning 2024 and going total scorched earth, I think we’re done. Dissolution of the union is inevitable.
Desirable, even.
I don't think it's desirable. Maybe the best of a bad set of options, but not desirable.
Him donning the little hat and visiting the wailing wall first thing when he becomes POTUS... Pardoning Israeli spies right before he leaves... Refusing to help 1/6 detainees AT ALL... Surrounding himself with swamp creatures and not only not draining the swamp, but increasing it while in office...
Despite all that, you think him winning in 2024 will turn things around?
I have some beach front property in Montana I'm selling. It's a great deal. I'm sure somebody as gullible as you would be interested.
I would be insanely impressed if Trump actually managed to clear out the swamp. He promised last time he'd do it, but he didn't.
Good thing we get to vote for Trump in 2 weeks, guys! Did you hear that? Just two more weeks.....
Why on earth would you think that Trump is capable of changing Washington or even wants to? He had four years and failed. Either he tried and was stymied, or he didn't actually bother to do so. My best guess is a bit of both.
Remember that Trump was president when the FBI told Facebook to suppress the laptop story.
Yeah because the 3 letter agencies give zero shits. They were openly in revolt his entire presidency. Whoever becomes president needs to go scorched earth on them and anyone that complains about it
But everyone knows they won't.
Because you only get to do it once. The nukes have already been fired. The sneak attack has already happened. You dont get to do it again, and the enemy now knows what you are going to do. Now, the Dems have been on the backfoot for almost every election done since 2020, and they have been losing by margins taht were considered unlikely at best even just a few years ago. To save their political power now, they screwed themselves in the future.
Its not the first time its ever happened in US History. Andrew Jackson was screwed out of the presidency in 1828 by John Quincy Adams. He won far more states and a large chunk of the electorate, but political machinations in Congress used loopholes to crown Adams the winner. Instead of this being some smooth thing and Jackson slinking away, he came out roaring mad. And come the 1830 Midterm, he ended up clearing out Congress of everyone who had screwed him and winning many other areas thought impossible. Then come 1832, he beat Adams in a crushing victory.
There is nothing to say it can happen again. Especially when the off-elections have been favoring MAGA Republicans by an almost absurd degree. And every attempt of the FBI and other types to stop it just makes the fire grow.