Yes, any useful knowledge will be easy to demonstrate, which is why the diplomas need to be made worthless. Employers should also be free to use IQ tests or any other selection criteria they desire, regardless of disparate racial impact.
I get WHY loan forgiveness is seen as taxable income (to prevent a loophole to evade the gift tax by simply loaning and forgiving) but it's still fucking stupid, because obviously a person who is genuinely having their debt written off for INABILITY TO PAY... CAN'T PAY TAXES ON IT EITHER.
The IRB isn't exactly a niche scheme, but if this is being taken as a taxable gift, holy shit are people gonna be fucking furious.
"You know that $20,000 we forgave? Yeah. You owe us $5,000 in taxes or we're seizing your home."
You starting to see why they needed 87,000 new IRS employees?
Edit -
Oh jesus, I realized what he's doing. The feds know that these students are A) never going to pay those loans back for the most part, and B) know that as inflation increases the loans themselves become more worthless, because the interest rate won't keep up with inflation.
This isn't debt relief...
It's a fucking tax hike.
Think about it:
Your loan gets paid off in 20 years, but inflation (especially high inflation) is going to make the value of that loan worse every year. Take an extreme example of Venezuela. If I owe someone 100 Bolivars in 2012, that's just 100 2012-Bolivars of value. But if I still owe that person 100 Bolivars in 2019, 100 Bolivars in 2019 won't buy me a peanut. The value of 100 2012-Bolivars is equivalent to 6,139,823.03 2019-Bolivars. Or another way of saying it, the value of my 100 2012-Bolivar loan, is now worth the equivalent of 0.001 2012-Bolivars of value.
So, he's tricking these kids into paying more value now in taxes now, rather than less value in loan payments later.
Put it like this:
You owe me $100 in 2015. If I know that there's going to be inflation in 2022 by a specific amount, I can trick you into paying me more from a forgiveness than I'll get back in inflation normally.
Let us assert that I know that:
In the year 2015, you need to pay me back $100 2015-USD by 2022
In the year 2019, that loan represents the equivalent of $107.86 2019-USD
In the year 2019, that loan represents the equivalent of $92.6 2015-USD
In the year 2022, that loan represents the equivalent of $125 2022-USD
In the year 2022, that loan represents the equivalent of $80.5 2015-USD
So, in my mind, I'm loosing $19.5 2015-USD of value if I wait for you to pay me back $100 2022-USD in 2022. I'm not getting my principle due to the rate of inflation. I need an interest rate to keep up with inflation, but you might not like it if I start charging you 8% interest out of the blue.
So I come up with a scheme:
I come to you at the start of 2019 and I say, "I'm such a good person, I'm going to forgive $5 off that loan if you pay me the whole thing right now."
What did I just do?
Instead of waiting to get $80.5 2015-USD equivalent in 2022, I got you to pay me $95 2019-USD in 2019, which is the equivalent of $88.07 2015-USD.
That means: By having you pay me back earlier, even with a discount, I got more of my value back. If you had just stuck to the the agreement, you'd have actually had the advantage.
That is why the regime is doing this. They know that the dollar will be worthless, and they are hitting you with a tax hike now, so they can get your money now, rather than have to accept the consequences of their own inflated dollars.
As evil as it is, I can say I'm impressed with their ingenuity.
The one portion of this Xiden proposal I agree with is fixing PSLF. PSLF states very clearly that if you work with a government/non-profit in a disadvantaged area, or in education period, you qualify, and 120 payments made while in their employ (even if they are under PAYE/REPAYE and are pittance payments) forgives the loan.
That's a really simple trade offer. "Okay, you have a degree. Go work public sector for a decade, and we'll waive your loan." But it's an utter bitch to get DOE to admit you're eligible. I've got two years shy of a decade working for a government education entity... and DOE says that I do not qualify for PSLF.
I don't think the executive has the unilateral authority to do this. Congress has to sign off on this as far as I know. Hasn't stopped this administration thus far though.
That is consistent with what they do if a foreclosed property is sold for less than the outstanding mortgage amount in no-recourse states: the difference is treated as taxable income.
Student loan abolition is only reasonable after all the university assets are seized, student records destroyed, and diplomas are sold for 5$ a pop.
Student loan abolition is reasonable because the "education" wasn't worth anything anyway.
Yes, any useful knowledge will be easy to demonstrate, which is why the diplomas need to be made worthless. Employers should also be free to use IQ tests or any other selection criteria they desire, regardless of disparate racial impact.
Proper IQ tests would probably work to be honest. IQ tests are normally a bitch to actually administer correctly, IIRC.
Already, the Behavioral Scientists stepped in with DISC tests and others to gauge personality.
I'd allow employers to use almost any test or requirement except for college degrees.
Basically, they are going to give a $10K per debtor to the banks and then send a tax bill to people who've been "forgiven."
I get WHY loan forgiveness is seen as taxable income (to prevent a loophole to evade the gift tax by simply loaning and forgiving) but it's still fucking stupid, because obviously a person who is genuinely having their debt written off for INABILITY TO PAY... CAN'T PAY TAXES ON IT EITHER.
Bet you can't opt out of this either huh? Welp, looks like I'm screwed come april.
I'm just going to ignore it. What are they gonna do, AUDIT me?
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Gotta give 87000 people something to do
Some diversity hire agent is gonna shoot your dog
Strange the govt didn't introduce loan tax instead.
The IRB isn't exactly a niche scheme, but if this is being taken as a taxable gift, holy shit are people gonna be fucking furious.
"You know that $20,000 we forgave? Yeah. You owe us $5,000 in taxes or we're seizing your home."
You starting to see why they needed 87,000 new IRS employees?
Edit -
Oh jesus, I realized what he's doing. The feds know that these students are A) never going to pay those loans back for the most part, and B) know that as inflation increases the loans themselves become more worthless, because the interest rate won't keep up with inflation.
This isn't debt relief...
It's a fucking tax hike.
Think about it:
Your loan gets paid off in 20 years, but inflation (especially high inflation) is going to make the value of that loan worse every year. Take an extreme example of Venezuela. If I owe someone 100 Bolivars in 2012, that's just 100 2012-Bolivars of value. But if I still owe that person 100 Bolivars in 2019, 100 Bolivars in 2019 won't buy me a peanut. The value of 100 2012-Bolivars is equivalent to 6,139,823.03 2019-Bolivars. Or another way of saying it, the value of my 100 2012-Bolivar loan, is now worth the equivalent of 0.001 2012-Bolivars of value.
Here's the math. Check out the Buying Power of $100 section
So, he's tricking these kids into paying more value now in taxes now, rather than less value in loan payments later.
Put it like this:
You owe me $100 in 2015. If I know that there's going to be inflation in 2022 by a specific amount, I can trick you into paying me more from a forgiveness than I'll get back in inflation normally.
Let us assert that I know that:
So, in my mind, I'm loosing $19.5 2015-USD of value if I wait for you to pay me back $100 2022-USD in 2022. I'm not getting my principle due to the rate of inflation. I need an interest rate to keep up with inflation, but you might not like it if I start charging you 8% interest out of the blue.
So I come up with a scheme:
I come to you at the start of 2019 and I say, "I'm such a good person, I'm going to forgive $5 off that loan if you pay me the whole thing right now."
What did I just do?
Instead of waiting to get $80.5 2015-USD equivalent in 2022, I got you to pay me $95 2019-USD in 2019, which is the equivalent of $88.07 2015-USD.
That means: By having you pay me back earlier, even with a discount, I got more of my value back. If you had just stuck to the the agreement, you'd have actually had the advantage.
That is why the regime is doing this. They know that the dollar will be worthless, and they are hitting you with a tax hike now, so they can get your money now, rather than have to accept the consequences of their own inflated dollars.
As evil as it is, I can say I'm impressed with their ingenuity.
The one portion of this Xiden proposal I agree with is fixing PSLF. PSLF states very clearly that if you work with a government/non-profit in a disadvantaged area, or in education period, you qualify, and 120 payments made while in their employ (even if they are under PAYE/REPAYE and are pittance payments) forgives the loan.
That's a really simple trade offer. "Okay, you have a degree. Go work public sector for a decade, and we'll waive your loan." But it's an utter bitch to get DOE to admit you're eligible. I've got two years shy of a decade working for a government education entity... and DOE says that I do not qualify for PSLF.
I saw you edit out IDR.
I keep calling it that too. No one needed to change the acronym.
I just spent an hour re-writing my original comment, you might want to take a look at it.
I'm starting to think I shouldn't accept the forgiveness.
the schools should be paying this, not us.
The only ones that still legitimately support this puppet are all NPCs. They'll feel whatever they're told to feel.
ConInc will hem and haw about this while complaining that Biden isn't sending enough to Ukraine.
No one's pretending money is real anymore, and everyone's just looting the Treasury for whatever they can get at this point.
Inflation goes brrrrr.
I don't think the executive has the unilateral authority to do this. Congress has to sign off on this as far as I know. Hasn't stopped this administration thus far though.
That is consistent with what they do if a foreclosed property is sold for less than the outstanding mortgage amount in no-recourse states: the difference is treated as taxable income.
This month. 3 days from now, actually.