Something tells me that even if you get someone who is, in your view "more competent," you'll be throwing this same hissy fit after they've been in office a few years. Really, it sounds like a "you" problem.
It's not worship. It's pragmatism. By all available measures, Trump is in the best position to unify GOP voters and motivate them to turn up to the polls on election day. No other potential anti-establishment candidate has as much name recognition as him.
I was never a rabid Trump fan, and I'm not now. I just recognize that he's still the best chance we have of getting a semi-based administration back into power.
On the other hand, the visceral nature of your anger towards him seems personal. Motivated, perhaps, by a sense of betrayal? Were you one of the ones who expected him to purge the entire swamp in four years and rebuild the country in God's image? All of you Trump blackpillers seem to me to have been let down by your own expectations more than by Trump himself.
It is pragmatic to nominate the guy who supercharges Democrat turnout and makes the election close enough to ensure that fraud decides it in favor of the Democrats?
Pragmatic to nominate the guy who thinks OWS is his best achievement?
Pragmatic to nominate the guy who makes Jared Kushner his prime minister?
I didn't expect Trump to fix everything or anything crazy like that, I merely expected him to not leave us in a worse position when he left than when he came in.
He gave us three okish Supreme court justices and a good economy in 2017-2019 with no new wars.
He also gave us Operation Warpspeed, covid lockdowns, Jared Kushner as his prime minister, the platinum plan for Blacks and some of the worst staffing decisions I had the misfortune of seeing in my life with people like Barr, Pompeo and Meadows.
We lost the House in 2018 and then both the Senate and the Presidency in 2020.
Trump is not the electoral juggernaut people like you keep overestimating him to be.
I think the negatives of Trump greatly outweigh the positives.
It is insanity to argue that Trump is still the best candidate in 2024.
I'm sure I'm gonna get hated for this, but this is all documented with a proven track record.
I'm not a DeSantis for President supporter (as explained here), but how is anyone gonna complain about Fox News "shilling" for DeSantis when at least DeSantis has a WAY better track record than Trump?
It's true that Trump had the election stolen but, if you're not going to get him re-instated and undo Biden's presidency, then run a candidate who isn't a proven liberal FFS.
DeSantis is exactly where he needs to be - in Florida, he is effective there and actually makes a solid job.
Dont bother with Trump, yet alone another candidate for Presidency until all the RINOs got kicked out first
No. AFAIK he knows that if he will run for presidency at this stage he will be endlessly backstabbed by RINOs - just like they did with Trump, especially late-term.
DeSantis should stay in Florida. And all the RINOs need to be kicked out first before red America can even dream of a chance to be as effective on a federal level as DeSantis is at state level.
And yes, im against Trump 2024 - dude is already very old, let him have is Retirement with peace.
You Trumpers, while being genuine about "making america great again", often fail to see the bigger picture - that a presidency can often be only as strong as the weakest link in a government. Trump tried to "drain the swap" - practically alone in that regard - and he failed, big time.
What this means is if Congress won't even pass good bills for him, anything Desantis would do as president would be considered selling out, considering what bills that Congress would pass actually look like.
I'm not advocating for DeSantis and I've made that perfectly clear numerous times already.
FWIW, I think we need someone with a strong track record for being a Constitutionalist that will veto the vast majority of crap that Congress pushes out and gut + reform the federal agencies.
That's pretty much all we can ask for in the current situation.
if you're not going to get him re-instated and undo Biden's presidency
It's not like you can do that while Biden is president. I assume "The Plan" will be to fix the problems that permitted the election to be stolen and to punish the perpetrators. Agreed if Trump has no intentions to do that then I don't need him in the oval office again.
Can you show me where trump has written any legislation or signed any executive orders on vaccines, gun-control, amnesty, groomers, degeneracy, Israel, and much more liberal policies?
So it was Trumps federal government who enforced lockdowns and vaccine mandates? Sounds like you’re talking out of your ass like every retard who saw democrats weaponize warpspeed and blamed someone who funded a concept and didn’t enforce it on the public…
Dude, it's obvious you support all this crap, why are we even talking?
Vote for him for all I care.
DeSantis to stand out because of their decisions…
Oh ho, you think got me, don'tcha?
I already said I don't support DeSantis for president and think he'll be best off as Governor and that's it, just like Trump should stick to cheerleading instead of being president.
With that said, his track record still blows Trump out of the water, and that's a fact.
Its hilarious you faggots cry about vaccine mandates and lockdowns when trump enforced neither. Be consistent, did warpspeed fail? Yes. Was it intentionally nefarious on trumps end? No. Did Trump enforce lockdowns and mandates? No. You keep blaming trump for vaccines enforcement and lockdowns that occurred under Biden and states discretion. Stay logically consistent or become the same as the retards that support the stupidity.
The relevant question is, had he won a second term, what would his initiatives have been regarding the coof?
Odds are he'd act on the feedback of his advisors and Fauci (as corrupt as he is, he is also the head of the CDC) like any other President would. He likely would have gone whole hog with "his" vaccine program, and it's not clear that his administration would have done anything different PR wise after the facts of ineffectiveness and side effects emerged. But this is all speculation and means nothing.
I dunno but he claims he would have gotten rid of Fauci in the 2nd term. He all but called him a dummy in an interview with Chris Wallace before the election.
Glad to see someone else other than me make this thread.
Trump 2024 is a joke and we won't be laughing if he wins the nomination this easily and then he loses to the Dem.
Pedes, Q told us two more weeks! Trust the plan!
Or maybe people are willing to support Trump despite his flaws for the precise reason that he's a proven winner.
Easy question: If he is a proven winner, why isn't he still in the White House today?
Trump was talking about the fraud months before and saw the fraud coming and yet he did nothing of value to stop it.
He was a winner in 2016 but ultimately became a "loser" in 2020.
I voted for him twice and I want someone new and more competent.
Something tells me that even if you get someone who is, in your view "more competent," you'll be throwing this same hissy fit after they've been in office a few years. Really, it sounds like a "you" problem.
Why do Trump 2024ers get this upset when someone who voted for Trump twice merely says we need to nominate a younger new competent guy in 2024?
It is cultism to insist that the nominee MUST be Trump in 2024.
You can argue for why you think he should still be the nominee but instead I see Trump 2024ers go for ad-hominems and insist it must be him.
This complete worshipping of an incompetent guy is beyond repulsive to me.
It's not worship. It's pragmatism. By all available measures, Trump is in the best position to unify GOP voters and motivate them to turn up to the polls on election day. No other potential anti-establishment candidate has as much name recognition as him.
I was never a rabid Trump fan, and I'm not now. I just recognize that he's still the best chance we have of getting a semi-based administration back into power.
On the other hand, the visceral nature of your anger towards him seems personal. Motivated, perhaps, by a sense of betrayal? Were you one of the ones who expected him to purge the entire swamp in four years and rebuild the country in God's image? All of you Trump blackpillers seem to me to have been let down by your own expectations more than by Trump himself.
It is pragmatic to nominate the guy who supercharges Democrat turnout and makes the election close enough to ensure that fraud decides it in favor of the Democrats?
Pragmatic to nominate the guy who thinks OWS is his best achievement?
Pragmatic to nominate the guy who makes Jared Kushner his prime minister?
I didn't expect Trump to fix everything or anything crazy like that, I merely expected him to not leave us in a worse position when he left than when he came in.
He gave us three okish Supreme court justices and a good economy in 2017-2019 with no new wars.
He also gave us Operation Warpspeed, covid lockdowns, Jared Kushner as his prime minister, the platinum plan for Blacks and some of the worst staffing decisions I had the misfortune of seeing in my life with people like Barr, Pompeo and Meadows.
We lost the House in 2018 and then both the Senate and the Presidency in 2020.
Trump is not the electoral juggernaut people like you keep overestimating him to be.
I think the negatives of Trump greatly outweigh the positives.
It is insanity to argue that Trump is still the best candidate in 2024.
And he did nothing to stop them from being rigged, meaning if he gets in in 2024, he's likely sold out.
lmao that cover image
How dare you be a consistent faggot?! /s
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I'm sure I'm gonna get hated for this, but this is all documented with a proven track record.
I'm not a DeSantis for President supporter (as explained here), but how is anyone gonna complain about Fox News "shilling" for DeSantis when at least DeSantis has a WAY better track record than Trump?
It's true that Trump had the election stolen but, if you're not going to get him re-instated and undo Biden's presidency, then run a candidate who isn't a proven liberal FFS.
DeSantis is exactly where he needs to be - in Florida, he is effective there and actually makes a solid job. Dont bother with Trump, yet alone another candidate for Presidency until all the RINOs got kicked out first
No. AFAIK he knows that if he will run for presidency at this stage he will be endlessly backstabbed by RINOs - just like they did with Trump, especially late-term.
DeSantis should stay in Florida. And all the RINOs need to be kicked out first before red America can even dream of a chance to be as effective on a federal level as DeSantis is at state level. And yes, im against Trump 2024 - dude is already very old, let him have is Retirement with peace.
You Trumpers, while being genuine about "making america great again", often fail to see the bigger picture - that a presidency can often be only as strong as the weakest link in a government. Trump tried to "drain the swap" - practically alone in that regard - and he failed, big time.
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What this means is if Congress won't even pass good bills for him, anything Desantis would do as president would be considered selling out, considering what bills that Congress would pass actually look like.
I'm not advocating for DeSantis and I've made that perfectly clear numerous times already.
FWIW, I think we need someone with a strong track record for being a Constitutionalist that will veto the vast majority of crap that Congress pushes out and gut + reform the federal agencies.
That's pretty much all we can ask for in the current situation.
It's not like you can do that while Biden is president. I assume "The Plan" will be to fix the problems that permitted the election to be stolen and to punish the perpetrators. Agreed if Trump has no intentions to do that then I don't need him in the oval office again.
I mean he's a democrat. what do you expect?
Also, the RNC is controlled opposition, as everyone on here knows.
Can you show me where trump has written any legislation or signed any executive orders on vaccines, gun-control, amnesty, groomers, degeneracy, Israel, and much more liberal policies?
Can you show me any legislation he's signed that stopped any of those things?
Hurrdurrr… how about making asylum seekers wait in Mexico? That was a trump executive order.
Do you now know how to do a search?
Here, I'm gonna give you the first one just to prove that I'm not bullshitting, but you being educated on the issues is not my responsibility.
Operation Warp Speed
Father of the Vaccine
"15 Days To Slow The Spread (lockdowns)"
Shit like this is why I don't vote; people who have no clue what is going on cancel out my vote.
So it was Trumps federal government who enforced lockdowns and vaccine mandates? Sounds like you’re talking out of your ass like every retard who saw democrats weaponize warpspeed and blamed someone who funded a concept and didn’t enforce it on the public…
We wouldn't even had vaccines if Trump hadn't fast-tracked them, so yeah.
He also got the ball rolling on lockdowns and through his support behind it.
"Weaponize warpspeed?"
You make it sound like operation warpspeed was a good thing.
In which case, I'm not even gonna waste any more time here.
Holy fuck the copium is strong. Trump competed to get the US the most doses of the vaccine that the entire world was trying to get ahold of.
Which is why he handed the powers to the states and allowed people like…. DeSantis to stand out because of their decisions…
Dude, it's obvious you support all this crap, why are we even talking?
Vote for him for all I care.
Oh ho, you think got me, don'tcha?
I already said I don't support DeSantis for president and think he'll be best off as Governor and that's it, just like Trump should stick to cheerleading instead of being president.
With that said, his track record still blows Trump out of the water, and that's a fact.
Its hilarious you faggots cry about vaccine mandates and lockdowns when trump enforced neither. Be consistent, did warpspeed fail? Yes. Was it intentionally nefarious on trumps end? No. Did Trump enforce lockdowns and mandates? No. You keep blaming trump for vaccines enforcement and lockdowns that occurred under Biden and states discretion. Stay logically consistent or become the same as the retards that support the stupidity.
The relevant question is, had he won a second term, what would his initiatives have been regarding the coof?
Odds are he'd act on the feedback of his advisors and Fauci (as corrupt as he is, he is also the head of the CDC) like any other President would. He likely would have gone whole hog with "his" vaccine program, and it's not clear that his administration would have done anything different PR wise after the facts of ineffectiveness and side effects emerged. But this is all speculation and means nothing.
I dunno but he claims he would have gotten rid of Fauci in the 2nd term. He all but called him a dummy in an interview with Chris Wallace before the election.