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The top GOP presidential candidate supports vaccines, gun-control, amnesty, groomers, degeneracy, Israel, and much more liberal policies. (media.scored.co)
posted 3 years ago by user20461 3 years ago by user20461 +18 / -0
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– onetruephilosoraptor 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Easy question: If he is a proven winner, why isn't he still in the White House today?

Trump was talking about the fraud months before and saw the fraud coming and yet he did nothing of value to stop it.

He was a winner in 2016 but ultimately became a "loser" in 2020.

I voted for him twice and I want someone new and more competent.

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– dagthegnome 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Something tells me that even if you get someone who is, in your view "more competent," you'll be throwing this same hissy fit after they've been in office a few years. Really, it sounds like a "you" problem.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Why do Trump 2024ers get this upset when someone who voted for Trump twice merely says we need to nominate a younger new competent guy in 2024?

It is cultism to insist that the nominee MUST be Trump in 2024.

You can argue for why you think he should still be the nominee but instead I see Trump 2024ers go for ad-hominems and insist it must be him.

This complete worshipping of an incompetent guy is beyond repulsive to me.

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– dagthegnome 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's not worship. It's pragmatism. By all available measures, Trump is in the best position to unify GOP voters and motivate them to turn up to the polls on election day. No other potential anti-establishment candidate has as much name recognition as him.

I was never a rabid Trump fan, and I'm not now. I just recognize that he's still the best chance we have of getting a semi-based administration back into power.

On the other hand, the visceral nature of your anger towards him seems personal. Motivated, perhaps, by a sense of betrayal? Were you one of the ones who expected him to purge the entire swamp in four years and rebuild the country in God's image? All of you Trump blackpillers seem to me to have been let down by your own expectations more than by Trump himself.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It is pragmatic to nominate the guy who supercharges Democrat turnout and makes the election close enough to ensure that fraud decides it in favor of the Democrats?

Pragmatic to nominate the guy who thinks OWS is his best achievement?

Pragmatic to nominate the guy who makes Jared Kushner his prime minister?

I didn't expect Trump to fix everything or anything crazy like that, I merely expected him to not leave us in a worse position when he left than when he came in.

He gave us three okish Supreme court justices and a good economy in 2017-2019 with no new wars.

He also gave us Operation Warpspeed, covid lockdowns, Jared Kushner as his prime minister, the platinum plan for Blacks and some of the worst staffing decisions I had the misfortune of seeing in my life with people like Barr, Pompeo and Meadows.

We lost the House in 2018 and then both the Senate and the Presidency in 2020.

Trump is not the electoral juggernaut people like you keep overestimating him to be.

I think the negatives of Trump greatly outweigh the positives.

It is insanity to argue that Trump is still the best candidate in 2024.

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