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Negotiations between the two actual combatant sides of the Ukraine clusterfuck have begun in earnest. (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by GeneralBoobs 3 years ago by GeneralBoobs +16 / -0
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– Grumman 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Figured the Ukraine would have given up by now, but apparently they still enjoy the meat grinder.

Apart from the Azov types, the people doing the fighting aren't the ones who will lose out if Ukraine surrenders. Russia can't just hang the revolutionaries and re-install the democratically elected president they ousted eight years ago, but if they did that would be a problem for the revolutionaries, not the majority who voted for the other guy.

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– Kaarous 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Well fortunately for the long term stability of that whole area, word has it that the paradoxical unit of Jewish neo Nazis are mostly dead or captured at this point.

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– SupremeReader 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Azov (the unit) has more members than ever, and is now a brigade of several battalions.

The Azov civilian (paramilitary) movement has tens of thousands of members.

Which is not new, because they did have tens of thousands of members (over 20,000) even before the invasion, but now they're just swelled with the new ones. And in the early days of panic massive numbers of normally apolitical civilians came to be basic trained by them (and by their RS rivals too) and got politically indoctrinated into "Social Nationalism" along the way.

They absorbed the Azov's Freikorps militias into regular units while at it. Did the same to much of the RS Volunteer Corps too.

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– Kaarous 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Reconstituting a destroyed unit is a simple matter of paperwork. The guys who conducted the coup are nearly all dead, and good riddance.

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– SupremeReader 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

What "the coup"? If you mean the ones who actively participated in the revolution, it was hundreds of thousands just in a single rally (December 1).

And of those who dit it as part of the Social National Assembly and/or Patriot of Ukraine, they overwhelmingly didn't even serve in the unit until returning upon the expansion. Didn't I tell you they have tens of thousands of members (National Corps and associates)? And only a portion of them are even in the brigade now.

They're not a joke like the American far right groups. https://youtu.be/ZMf5z7wnZIA

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– OldBullLee 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Ukraine has received tens of billions from the US to keep it going. Imagine how much Zelensky and his cronies are filling their Swiss accounts.

It looks like the rest of the world can't stand much more of our proxy war.

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– LauriThorne 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Dude demanded 750 billion more. He wants all he can get

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– SupremeReader 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Of course normal people will lose. Their homes are occupied, their families are displaced or even deported to Russia.

Yanukovych has 0.0% public support even in the Peoples Republics. Don't forget how he abandoned even his own hardcore supporters when he suddenly vanished, secretly fleeing the country entirely in the middle of night with stolen money, never leaving his refuge somewhere in Moscow to this very day. Now he is hated in Ukraine more than Putin, because just everyone hates him. The man who unites everybody over all divisions. Everyone would shoot him on the spot immediately, and everyone else would celebrate it. The only ones in the country who don't hate him are Russian regulars, who just don't care.

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