Maybe it's because you're a lazy, whiny faggot, George.
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GRRM bitching about fans turning on him because HE STILL HASN'T RELEASED 'WINDS OF WINTER' YET!
The entirety of the GoT series came and went before GRRM managed to release another book. The times between book releases grew exponentially to the point many fans no longer expect him to release the second last book of the series let alone the final book. Since the series came out instead of writing those two books GRRM decided to write everything but the books his fans wanted and now he's reaping what he sowed by being a lazy talking head for so fucking long.
tl;dr old fatman shouts at [digital] clouds
Can you imagine the hype and money of Winds of Winter had been released around season 4 or 5
Sure plenty of fans were mad about it, but that's nothing compared to the violent rage that must have occurred behind closed doors amongst the intellectual property profit goblins that surrounded him.
And unlike genuine human beings they couldn't even address it to George for fear of their jobs. Looking at how George reacts to puplic opinion, just imagine how he reacts to private opinion. This is part of why influential people often live in personal la-la-lands.
Martin has gloated that he no longer has to listen to the opinions of his editors. He is 100% a complete terror.
I mean, that could have gone two ways.
George has gone down the rabbit-hole and the book itself is as bad as the show became once they ran out of source material. I.e favoring the message over consistent storytelling
George hasn't gone down the rabbit-hole and the show would've crumbled immediatly not just at the end.
At this point I don’t think he can. He probably knows the major plot points which he told to HBO when they made the ending, but then they fucked it up because they didn’t have a template for the final seasons and rushed it all. Now he can’t do that or people will be pissed, even though most of it’s what he wanted to do.
He knows he’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.
If the series finale being as fucked up its own ass as it was came down to a lack of reference material beyond whatever post-it notes he gave to D&D, that's on him. Even if he had taken as long to publish TWOW (which he chronically boasted included a lot of already-written chapters that he just couldn't fit into ADWD and thus definitely wouldn't take as long to come out) as he did to publish ADWD - five years after the fourth book, AFFC - then it should've been out by 2016-17.
FFS, even D&D delayed Season 8 by an entire year (2018), that was an extra year Martin had to get the next book out. At this point I have to credit them for at least finishing their story and then dropping out of public view, however shit their ending was, unlike Martin who doesn't even have sufficient shame to just STFU about the series he'll never finish and retreat to obscurity for his remaining days. But nope, he insists on inflicting more of his unfinished universe on the world and talking shit about his dwindling fans instead.
I think he probably did give them enough reference material, they’d just need more seasons to finish it and that wasn’t in the cards. I’m not saying that to defend him, it just logistically makes sense. They’d pay him whatever he wanted so it’s not like they couldn’t have had him step in more directly on the final seasons if they were having trouble.
Although I liked it more than I didn’t, I don’t personally think the Song of Ice and Fire series is as good as people make it out to be. It is good, but probably not to the level people hold it. As a TV series it was probably the most ambitious in trying to recreate a book series of that scope though when it comes to plot and character dynamics. They cut things but still did alright. The main thing he did was make a super dark Tolkien universe where everybody dies with plot complexity found in other genres.
At least they didn’t pull a Walking Dead where it never ends and you stop caring and everyone’s just wandering around in circles and you really just don’t care anymore.
"The TV show screwed up Martin's perfect vision" is fan cope.
The show ending IS the book ending. Bran becomes king, and all the retardation that implies.
Martin can't finish the story because he knows its a turd and the show tells us exactly how badly it will be received by fans. So what, he writes a new ending? With 2 million words of baggage, good fucking luck.
Any author who can't finish a story with that many pages is a bad author. PERIOD.
The obvious ending is Jon Snow becoming king of Westeros, as he is both Stark and Targaryen, it's literally his destiny.
However, doing that would refute the entire thesis of GRRM's series, that there is no inherent good, no destiny, no saviors, etc. He started the series with a faulty premise as a refutation of Tolkien and now he can't come to terms with the fact that that necessarily leads to a shitty conclusion
I can see the plot points having been the same but if handled differently working out fine. That SPOILERS maybe Bran the whole time was controlling the white walkers or something. There’s a lot you can do to make them work. Or like the dragon lady just flipping her shit at the end on a dime. With more time to make it work it could have, but it seemingly happened out of nowhere like she was Amber Heard all along.
Martin's real writing flaw is his suffocating nihilism in the name of 'realism.' The man expresses such misanthropy through his writing it's really disgusting to read. It reminds me of Nite Owl's speech to Ozymandias:
https://youtu.be/xyJ4Nt3FN0Y?t=103
"You haven't idealized mankind but you've deformed it. Mutilated it. That's your legacy."
I don't think there's any level of in-story justification for a protagonist's villain turn that would be accepted by any audience, because that's just not how people and stories work. There aren't enough words in the universe to reverse 6,000 pages of sympathizing with Daenerys. Can't be done. The alternative is to accept that everyone in the story is shit, they all worthless, and always have been (which is how Martin feels) but then what is even the point of any of it?
For all the shit JK Rowling gets, she managed to write the entirely of the Harry Potter series in the same amount of time between now and the release of ADWD. Now, you can debate the quality of writing in Harry Potter, but you can't pretend JKR didn't have a good amount of hussle.
It's written for children, it's not meant to be high quality. The fact so many adults made it the central pillar of their life was not Rowling's fault.
The woke trash she promoted was, but that snake came back and bit her as always happens.
There's tons of other authors who bring out stuff faster than Martin. There is entire series started and finished in the time he took to write one book. It feels like he wrote himself in a corner and just does not know how to finish it.
I liken him to another author I like who sadly turned out to be pretty woke, Patrick Rothfuss. His 2 books are great but it's been 12 years since the last book and the trilogy feels like it will never be finished because he's busy with anything but finishing his book.
At least Patrick Rothfuss has been apologetic about it and can at least fall back on his need for constantly revise what he's written due to his writing style. In fact, DoS as been "written" for years. The point that he at least has reasons and not exuses.
Contrast that to GRRM who lashes out at his fans while admitting he barely did any writing at all during the entire lockdowns.
No he hasn't. He's attacked his fans as entitled multiple times because they dare to ask him when the next book is coming out. You know, the thing he said he wrote already but then his editors and publisher demanded he make into a trilogy?
He's too busy showing up on shitty DnD podcasts to write
Pretty sure Harry Potter was ghost written anyway, or there's at least some other unnamed collaborator. Just compare it with her new crap and the difference is unreal.
That's a bit of a stretch mate.
I don't think it's reasonable to assume a writer doesn't change over time. They're humans, not automatons.
Yeah but they usually get better.
I think rather than ghost written she probably had a very strong active editorial team
Martin is a talentless hack and always has been.
When writing GoT he hired an "assistant"--one of the future authors of the Expanse (forget his name). It coincides with his highest productivity and popularity. When he left Martin's output took a nosedive. In an interview that author mentioned that Martin's best talents were connections; knowing people in the movie and publishing business. Not so much writing.
Whenever I point out the objective shittiness of the series (five books, no ending in sight) people respond with magic crystal ball logic--everything will change once more books are written. I think the show reveals that isn't true, but never mind. Past performance is the best indicator of future performance.