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When they say "They're trying to divide us by race", remember this. (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 4 years ago by AzureAceStarburstXXX 4 years ago by AzureAceStarburstXXX +97 / -0
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– Gizortnik 29 points 4 years ago +29 / -0

They are trying to divide us by race. You're just not paying attention to the racial division of lower strata within "the diverse" groups.

We're dealing with people who want to create Socialism through balkanization, to the point where it is effectively Bolshevism. Meaning that every sub-category will be set against itself. The Left actually complain about their own inability not to engage in pathological and self-destructive back-biting all the time.

This is why every so often we hear that "Straight Black Men are the White People of POC", or why "Gay Culture is Misogynistic", and why now recently: "TERFS (aka Feminists) are Transphobic".

This is a rhetorical tactic directed at white people, but they do want to divide everyone by race because it ensures a political party-boss system. Which is what they have done for over a century in cities, why they focus heavily on promoting mass migration, refuse to let people focus on teaching a unified language to those immigrants, etc.

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– WeedleTLiar 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Look at all the anti-asian assaults by blacks over the last year. Asians rank lower than blacks on the oppression hierarchy so they're treated as though they're done something to deserve it and the perpetrators are excused.

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– APDSmith 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yep, what these would-be Party apparatchiks want as a continual low-grade race war between the various demographic (and therefore, to their minds, political) blocs that they get to referee.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yup. They look at Lebanon and think that's a good form of a political system: constitutionally specified assignments of racial, ethnic, and religious factions power within the legislature.

JFC

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– OldBullLee 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I agree, which is why we need a new coalition of working class people of all races to push back against identity politics, with individual liberty, educational and economic autonomy within the traditional cultural framework as the ethic. A reformed Libertarian party might work, at least in the short-term.

The left has abandoned the working class for its insane worship of "persecuted minorities". . . Since their Marcusian shift to identity, I don't even know what they're trying to accomplish other than chaos and destruction with no plan, they seem so incoherent.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

They are incoherent because most of what we are dealing with are the literal foot-soldiers of the subversion.

The political left that we are actively dealing with: the antifa thugs, the tranny trenders, the race grifters, even the watermelons; all of them exist to be the first step in demoralization.

However, unlike the Soviet Union's "Peace War" initiative to build the anti-war movement in the US as an internal political weapon; the modern crop are basically being given a very loose reign by China and Fabian Socialists who are hoping to use the utter chaos generated by the subversives as a weapon to enact their agenda.

The Soviets manipulated these groups with a great deal of efficiency. Now, they're just being let loose.

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– OldBullLee 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Now there was some real "Russian collusion."

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– Gizortnik 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

The TERFS aren't infiltrators. They are genuine female identitarians. The transgenders are transgender identitarians. They are incompatible.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The TERFS aren't infiltrators. They are genuine female identitarians.

No, they're just sensible feminists, at least on the troon issue. Note that the so called TERFs usually are not the ones being crazy and stupid. They focus on preventing men from forcing their penises into the women's locker rooms and showers.

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– Adamrises 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Note that the so called TERFs usually are not the ones being crazy and stupid.

Radical Feminist and not being crazy/stupid is pretty incompatible.

Them being shockingly consistent on one issue that makes sense within their ideology doesn't absolve the rest of it.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Radical Feminist and not being crazy/stupid is pretty incompatible.

Well yeah. I mean that their present focus is not crazy/stupid. The focus of their activism and complaints is almost 100% legitimate: keeping men out of their spaces.

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– WeedleTLiar 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

My means and tactics are perfectly reasonable, only my goals are insane.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

There are no sensible feminists.

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– Shill4Hire 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Sure there are. In their own worldview.

If you saw ten dollars on the ground, would you pick it up? Aha! But that is someone else's money, and you're picking it up for no reason! You're not sensible!

Such a complaint is nonsense. If someone offers you piles and piles of money, and all you need to do in exchange is be completely self-centered, well, being self-centered doesn't mean you're not sensible.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I didn't say that feminists weren't capable of logical coherence. I said they weren't sensible. Their ideology is fundamentally non-sense, but that doesn't mean that the logic doesn't follow.

Two different things.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

If they really wanted to fight transgenderism, they'd admit women's role in creating the issue.

And if you really want to fight feminism, maybe you need to admit men's role in creating the issue.

If you love the TERFs so much, go join Ovarit's circlejerk. You can call yourself AntoniaOfVenice.

They're saner than you are, though that's not saying much.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Misogyny isn't real. Come on, this is basic shit.

You prove that it is, by your own admission here. If taxing blacks at a higher rate is racism, then doing that to women is misogyny.

I just miscalculated how much they'd let her suffer to hold the narrative.

How come all your """"""calculations"""""" come out wrong?

GC being banned probably saved some children's lives.

Almost everything you say can be said by a transgender.

The thread has reached limit apparently.

And I've had quite enough of your crazy for today.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yes, let's blame the brainwashed products of women's school system. Makes sense.

Sorry, I forgot that men are not responsible for their own beliefs, just like women are to blame for the massive rates of rape and murder by men. Proximate woman strikes again!

Last time I checked up on them, they were celebrating that an audit of sperm banks had enough genetic diversity for them to be able to kill all men.

I'm not afraid of women. I have a flyswatter.

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– Gizortnik 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

It's okay, you can still be wrong.

God Bless America.

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

The TERFs are infiltrators on the right, and they're succeeding. I warned about this back in January and neither here nor TD took it seriously.

Cause you also were absolutely sure that Von der Leyen and Legarde would use the European Central Bank to force vaccine mandates on every EU country. Remember that - or is that conveniently memoryholed like all your other predictions?

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The whole point of your preposterous claim that the ECB would be used is that it doesn't matter how badly people receive it, right? Otherwise, you don't need to force governments to do it.

And you also claimed that the countries that abolished Covid restrictions entirely, only did so to make it all the more painful when they were brought back. Remember that?

Also that people would continue to get boosters even as 90% of people dropped dead from them.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Didn't you hear about the riots in Austria over Edtstadtler's plan?

They were but a trifle, and there was nothing of consequence in Germany.

So you're telling me that these "genocidal masterminds" of yours were fully intent on using the ECB to force countries into vaccination mandates, but decided against it because... some egg-throwing in Austria and nothing at all in Germany?

Also impressive that you know the name of every woman in any position of authority. Do you know the name of the Chancellor of Austria?

That did happen. They just didn't repeat it a third time.

So what happened, eh? How come it was those countries led by those you claimed are out to kill you who abolished the Covid restrictions?

I have an idea. Maybe they knew Covid kills more men than women, so they abolished the restrictions in order to have the virus kill more people. I mean, they're women after all, and as such obsessed with killing you.

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

They're trying to, but they're not succeeding except with blacks - and even that will probably be temporary as blacks see the devastation that they have unleashed on black communities.

What exactly do you want whites to 'unite' for?

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

What exactly do you want whites to 'unite' for?

How deeply embedded is your shitlib programming that you're still pretending to be this obtuse? You've been around long enough to come up with at least a few minor quibbles whites might have.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I asked the question. Of course whites have a few 'quibbles', but those are things that anyone reasonable will disagree with, not just whites.

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– Telia 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

"imaginary White race"

thanks for outing yourself as a shill.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

Either everyone can unite or nobody can. If every race can unite except one, that race is doomed to extinction. I don't want whites to unite so we can conquer Africa, I want whites to unite so we can stop our own genocide. It's a perfectly reasonable request, or rather it was until the boomer generation was brainwashed into thinking that white people acting in their own self interest is literally Hitler.

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– Galean 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

The anti-white propaganda efforts are real and they are succeeding to some extent. The anti-white propaganda is working on a lot of people. Strangely you can see it in a lot of asian, mostly asian women but still. I would like to somehow remove the white people from the equation, it would be fun to watch all the other groups fighting.

I honestly think the whites should unite, not anything radical but as a group to defend rights of white people in an increasingly diverse country. Blacks do that, asians do that, latino do that, whites need to do the same. Anti-white discrimination needs to be countered, both legally and culturally however it should be done with a goal of having harmony between races rather then a fight for who can get the most benefits.

I grew up not giving a shit about what color people were but I've came to the conclusion that a lot of people did even back then, a very sad realization to have.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I would like to somehow remove the white people from the equation, it would be fun to watch all the other groups fighting.

I suspect that if whites become a minority, they will start acting more like a minority, and that other minorities will proportionally focus their ire more on the other minorities that are in competition with them than on whites.

Anti-white discrimination needs to be countered, both legally and culturally however it should be done with a goal of having harmony between races rather then a fight for who can get the most benefits.

This is something that not just whites will agree with though.You certainly have Asians on your side on this matter, and judging by Proposition 18 in California, a majority of Latins and a significant minority of blacks.

I grew up not giving a shit about what color people were but I've came to the conclusion that a lot of people did even back then

They pretended not to give a damn, because it benefited their clients at the time, and now they have dropped the pretense, because that is now to their own political benefit.

Best example is how auditions for classical concerts were done blindly so that people could not discriminate against blacks, back in the day. Now professional grievancemongers are demanding that this practice be abolished so blacks can get privileges.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Whites basically organized the Republican party in the South to defend white people. For a long time after the Civil War, there wasn't one -- at least not one comprised of Southerners. The party was reorganized to combat the Democrats who became (and still are) dominated by blacks. They like to pretend it's about small government ideology, but the idea is that the government is using its power to favor nonwhites.

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– Telia 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

What exactly do you want whites to 'unite' for?

i dont know why dont you tell us Mr . Zionist Israeli

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– AzureAceStarburstXXX [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Whites must survive.

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– SparkMandrill83 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Blacks, hispanics, asians arent going to come out on top even if they do unite against whites. They'll have them fighting amongst themselves just as quickly. They are dividing everyone by whatever identity they can come up with because thats the best way to insure that we, as a population, never unite against them.

This tweet or whatever reeks of the same shit the last few mass shooters got told in their discords.

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– AzureAceStarburstXXX [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Are you calling me a mass shooter, glowie? What the fuck is wrong with you?

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– SparkMandrill83 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Nah, I'm calling you a tool

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– Gizortnik 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

Actually that's an interesting point. Didn't they support the 19th because they thought it would increase white votes?

imma be honest.

They didn't think that through

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– AntonioOfVenice 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

They didn't think that through

I'd much rather have a 100% female electorate with women from 1922 than a 100% male electorate with men from 2022.

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– Gizortnik 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

45% of women opposed women's suffrage.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

If you think the women of 1922 were more left-wing or feminist than the men of 2022, then you're an even bigger fool than I thought.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I'm a man

You sure you were not born with a uterus? Sometimes I wonder.

Imagine if every voter was me.

Hard for me to believe that you can be a functioning human being if you do not understand the difference between yourself and "the entire male population in 2022". Some psychologists claim that Hitler suffered from an excessive over-identification with "the German people". Don't be like that.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I hope people are not falling for it again.

I hope not too. We don't need any sectarian or identitarian...

Race war inherently advances women.

... SIGH...

you're so close

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Race war inherently advances women.

Well, you also believed that women conspired to ignore Rotherham in order to get Muslim votes to increase male suicide rates, so I have no doubt at all that you are able to persuade yourself that mass rapes 'advance women'.

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